Charters Anonymous Graduates – No more temping!

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Hello ladies ? bit nerve wracking moving over to ante natal but thought I?d be brave! Here?s to a trouble free 8 or so months for us all! And hoping lots more of us move over very soon.

Step away from your thermometers ladies. That way madness lies.

Sits back. Feels a bit lonely. Waits for others.

OK, thanks for the straight talking everyone. I'm going to stop. In fact I'm going to give DH the thermometer!

Nix your birthstory is scary but I'm so glad your little boy is healthy now. Are you able to request a c-section due to that kind of past birth? I don't know how planned ones work really (well, I know how they work but I don't know how easy they are to arrange!).

On a similar-ish note, one of my friends is driving me crazy by saying that she is going to have planned c-sections for all her (so far hypothetical) kids as she doesn't want her sex life to be ruined by vaginal birth. Apart from the fact that I think she's really crass about it and doesn't at all get that c-sections are not normally vanity projects (!) I wish she'd stop talking about how sex after birth is ruined. I'm sure it's not true (tell me it's not true!) but she's the kind to bang on about stuff that she doesn't really know anything about. Apaprently it was her mother who told her to avoid natural birth for this reason. I'm dreading telling her I'm pregnant if I get that far because, bizarre as it is, I know the first thing she'll say will be along the lines of 'you'll never have sex again!'

FFS - just typed a really long post, and MN ate it!

SPILT yey for minispilt

pippa step away from temping xxx NO MORE

catch up later all xx

No, it most certainly isn't ruined. In fact I find I can, ahem, get there a lot faster than I could before! The biggest barriers to sex after baby are the tiredness and the presence of said baby!

Things don't quite get back to exactly where they were but really not far off and nothing to worry about. Just make sure you do your pelvic floors and all will be well.

Spilt I realise I forgot to say yeeeeeeeeeeey! It must be amazing to hear that heartbeat

Lady I'm going to tell my friend that according to my scientifically highly accurate survey all women who've given birth have better orgasms...wonder if she'll change her mind!!

Thanks girls

It was wonderful but so scary. The baby measured 42mm and they dated me at 11 weeks, but I think I'm only 10+2 so it will be interesting to see what my dating scan reckons in a fortnight. Piccies are in the post

Lady and nix did your scans adjust your dates or not? I just find it a bit weird as with charting I feel pretty sure of my dates and 5 days seems like quite a difference.

Good decision pippa - tell DH to lock that thermometer away!

nix your DS's birth sounds very alarming, I'm not remotely surprised you feel traumatised by that. A collapsed lung on your tiny newborn. Terrifying

GetDown I'm sorry you were badly cared for too and left with damage. It is shocking.

3 days back from my 8 week scan...not concerned in the slightest. I will go armed with my charts however when i get into the conversations about induction!! DS was 6 days late so not too fussed as to whether this bean will go overdue. T'will be what t'will be :)

That is a sensible calm approach!

raven so sorry you're bleeding, hope you're getting lots of love and support, we're thinking about you x

split my dating scan gave an EDD one week ahead to my chart but I decided, as nickster said too, I'll raise it if I go overdue. In fact, if people ask when I'm due I say early to mid May (EDD = 8th, my chart = 15th).

pippa try and wean yourself off the temping!

nix getdown and lady it must be hard to move on from a traumatic 1st birth. Hope you all have totally fabulous 2nd births - I'm looking forward to reading lots of your positive birth stories in the months to come xx

They moved my dates 4 days forward, Spilt. Went into labour on my dating due date last time so not too worried about induction. I would refuse anyway unless I am really, really fed up by that point.

Babies can come any time between 37 and 42 weeks so I guess the exact date is pretty academic!

Thanks for the birth wishes, Newyears. How many weeks are you now? Think you will be the first Charters grad to drop! Which puts me second on the list at the moment...aaagh! where is Bessie?

Actually I think bessie is a further on than newyears.

Depends how far back you want to go - there were some Charters grads due in Feb and March but they seem to have disappeared entirely! If anyone spots littlesilver, BabyValentine of BUnderTheBonnet let me know how they're getting on/if their babies have arrived. Would love to know!

Hopefully they will spot us soon and pop in!

Maybe another couple of BFP's to come soon. Fingers crossed!

How is everyone this evening?

I am very chirpy . No particular reason though!

I'm 25+3 today. Just been for a swim soooooo tired....

I forgot to congratulate nickster and split yesterday on your scans! Really good news.

xx

Wow, 25+3 sounds so far away to me right now! Were you always a swimmer newyearsday or have you taken it up while pregnant?

Mornin' all....

more vivid dreams last night.... whoop! wish they wouldnt disturb my sleep though!!

Nix what were they about? I dreamt about Medusa last night !

Urm the night before last, i dreamt about two lady twins, one who was devil-ish and could kill people with lasers from her eyes, a bit like Stephen King film carrie! Bizarre and i kept waking up, only to go back to it!! And when i closed my eyes last night i found myself going back to the same scary dream.... Noooooooo!

Ive had dreaming sex with an ex, (at the F1 with jensen button as his supermodel bird... very far fetched that one!) also dreamt about MC which was not nice, but jsut very vivid dreams... and i never dream!!

at the laser eyed lady! She sounds a bit like my Medusa - she looked totally normal and then suddenly looked straight at me and had red eyes and snakes for hair. Yikes.

I keep dreaming about MC too - I think it's anxiety causing it (and poss other nightmares too). Here's hoping for lots more sex dreams and far fewer nightmares...!!

:) at the medusa!! Vivid dreams are a symptom of pregnancy:)

Ooh really I didn't know that! I'm still rather lacking in symptoms (which naturally worries me because EVERYTHING worries me at the moment) so that's good to know :)

Yep vivid dreams here too since pretty much my BFP. Fortunately no MC dreams for a few weeks (they were horrible) just lots of rude ones

I've just had my dating scan and consultant appointment through now - 7th Feb so not long at all. Can't wait to see the little one again and hopefully see it wiggle this time (seemed to be sleeping/obstinate on Tuesday). Still babies on scan freak me out somewhat as our only previous experiences are Bobbie's 12 week scan where she was wriggling/bouncing around like a mad thing waving all limbs, and her 20 week one where she was still because she had died. So we panicked a bit at the still baby, and they had to show us the little flickering heartbeat in it's chest several times

pippa I know it's impossible but try not to worry about lack of symptoms yet, it's still very early and many people don't get much until 6-7 weeks. Enjoy eating all the things you like and go out in the evenings before sickness and a need for bed at 8pm grabs you!

How far along are you now Pipsqueak ? its terrifying not knowing. Are you going to have an 8 week scan?

I was sobbing during my 12 weeker on monday. DH refused to look at the screen til she said 'baby's fine, hearts beating'. We were there ages and she kept having to wobble my fat bits with the scanner to get it to move position... once i coughed it was dancing all over the place. Freaked me out a little as well. Thinking about paying for a 16 week scan or getting a doppler!

Spilt will you have to have a jab for toxo this time, is that going to be soon? 2nd trimester is that?

I don't know nix, it's something we'll need to talk to the consultant about. I know they couldn't give any drugs until the second trimester, but I'm wondering if it's necessary now if I've got through the first one? I think the drugs are to kill off an infection, and since I must have had the active infection in Aug/Sept it should be long gone by now. They just think it takes 6 months to build up full immunity hence the 6 month wait we were told to do... So that would be Feb/March time which is pretty much now anyway.

I suspect they've be reluctant to give the drugs as they said the spiramycin (the drug) is also a bit risky in pregnancy but if you are faced with a live infection then it is a case of the lesser of two evils. I don't think the toxo now poses much of a risk so I expect if anything they may wish to give the baby a course of antibiotics as a newborn if there were any signs of congenital toxoplasmosis. No idea really.

(pippa I can't remember when you joined Charters, but if you don't know, my back story is that my daughter Bobbie was found to have died at her 20 week scan in October. The tests they did after she was born showed I had a raging toxoplasmosis infection which was probably the reason for her death. Since her development had stopped at about 14-15 weeks (though she had lived to at least 17 when we heard a heartbeat) I can only conclude that it was Aug/Sept time that I caught the infection. So they aren't joking when they say be careful with cats. Not just cats, but gardening, veg out of the garden (contaminated soil) and also rare/raw meat can all carry the bloody parasite.)

Spilt, I've seen you mention Bobbie before but didn't want to ask as I didn't know whether you'd want to talk about it. Such a sad story :( Had you already decided on her name before she died? (I always think of the baby I early miscarried last year as a Noah, even though I have no idea what sex the baby was - only 6 weeks.) How are you feeling about this pregnancy? I hope it's a really easy one for you.

Thanks pippa, no we picked her name the day she was born and it was really hard to do because it took 6 weeks of waiting for test results to find out her sex, so we were trying to name for either. Imagine trying to conduct a burial service for someone of yet unknown gender. Our poor vicar, he did really well.

How am I feeling about this one? Quite weird to be honest. I'm so much more anxious. I no longer believe that getting through the first trimester means anything. I can't make a link between being pregnant and getting a baby, I don't really dare hope we'll get that far. I'm pissed off to be going through early pregnancy again because it is horrible. I should be 36 weeks tomorrow. I'm confused too because I know that there is no world in which I could have both of my children - this one wouldn't have existed if Bobbie had survived. It hurts a lot everyday. I miss her so much. She should be nearly here by now and that thought is sending me a bit loopy at the moment (and will probably continue to do so as her due date arrives). I'm sorry I didn't mean to get so waffly. Noah is a lovely name, I'm so sorry you didn't get to meet him x