Charters Anonymous Graduates – No more temping!

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Hello ladies ? bit nerve wracking moving over to ante natal but thought I?d be brave! Here?s to a trouble free 8 or so months for us all! And hoping lots more of us move over very soon.

Step away from your thermometers ladies. That way madness lies.

Sits back. Feels a bit lonely. Waits for others.

split you've been through so much and are so brave. You're not waffling, talk as much as you need to. I wish I could say something to make you feel better xx

pippa yes I love swimming anyway but it's fab exercise in pregnancy cos you feel weightless in the water and can swim right up to birth. If you're not into swimming you might be able to find an antenatal aqua aerobic class near you?

New-we're really lacking in facilities for swimming near me, but there's a lovely (expensive!) spa I might treat myself to to get a bit of exercise in...

Spilt-that's a really sobering thought, that this baby couldn't have existed if your first child had survived. I don't know whether you're religious or not? I'm technically in the same position, although my miscarriage was much earlier than yours, and I've found some solace in the thought that my first baby wasn't for this world but allowed me to be a mum this time round (I hope). I don't know whether that's helpful though and I think it's probably different in that I feel I mourned the loss of a potential life and future but I realistically know that my first baby didn't yet resemble a person. I really am sorry for your loss-it's such a poignant reminder of the fragility of life.

I do have a faith and a hope that one day I will get to cuddle my little girl again, but I have to confess that my belief in God hasn't really helped me in this - my vicar and other church folk have been wonderful and such support, but I feel a bit at sea for now faith wise. I try not to think too hard about God in the context of babyloss because it doesn't give me any helpful answers right now if that makes sense? When I think about I wonder if he couldn't help or chose not to, and both of those are unpalatable thoughts so I'm blocking the questions for now. A lot of the time I feel it boils down to just shit happens for no reason, and searching for some deeper meaning in what's happened is probably pointless. Who knows.

On a lighter note - when is too early for nesting?! This evening I have found some mojo from somewhere and scrubbed the kitchen and done a whole heap of laundry. DH will be in when he gets in as the poor love has been trying to do everything for ages!

GetDown you've gone quiet - hope you're ok?

spilt can you come to my house and nest for me?!?!?! have no energy whatsoever, was working at home today and had to just put my feet up and switch on the tv at 1pm!

It is a very philosophical way of looking at things... if i hadnt MC in August i wouldnt be carrying this bean. Easier for me as i had a blighted ovum...so there was no baby...i have to look at it that way for my own sanity. spilt yours is a very different story though x Sorry to hear you MC too pips x

PS did you read mousebacons terribly terribly sad news? Totally gutted for her i really am :(

Nah nix I think that's me nested now for the next 6 months

Yes I did see mouse's news and posted on the conception thread. It's awful. Two 11-12 week losses in 6 months I wish I could give her a big hug.

Oh God, I haven't come across mouse - that sounds just dreadful :(

On a totally different note, DH and I have just made a list of 'essentials' (as far as we're aware) for furnishing a nursery/corner of our bedroom and basic clothes, blankets, pram etc, and were absolutely shocked to see the total at close to £1000. (That was getting basic ranges though for the pram we guessed about £300 as it looks like you can pay anything from £50 to £1000. Here's hoping all our friends give us the baby stuff they no longer need!!

(Spilt - regarding God not being able to/choosing not to help, I think there is no answer that will make sense or help right now. I hope one day it makes sense, or I meet someone a lot wiser than me who can explain. It's the big question I suppose. C. S. Lewis is good on it - The problem of pain. Hope you're feeling ok this evening.)

Me too spilt, only saw mouses news yesterday, on the MC/TTC thread. Wish i could give her a big hug. pippa mouse was on charters with us recently. mouse if you are lurking, thinking of you lovely lady xx

pippa i would say £1000 is perhaps the starting point....prepare for more costs without having to scare you! I have 3 prams.... :) a travel system, a 3wheeler and a stroller!! You need to think about Cot, mattress, bedding, moses basket, bedding, monitors, sterilisers, cleaning stuff for baby ie top and tail/bath etc... its endless...!! I would say do your research re your pram or travel system, i just bought what i liked the look of hence 3!!

You can get a travel system (mamas and papas pramette type thingy) for about 300 including car seat etc, but there is always ebay :) tons of new, nearly new and used on there. I would say shop around as well... plus also remember that people buy you loads of things with a first baby. xx

Erm hi all. May I join? I have come Over from the charters thread too so recognise you all :) got my very first bfp on Wednesday. (and thursday and this morning...)

Congratulations Iwish - welcome!

Thanks LadyG. How are you feeling? Xx

I'm through the worst of it . Nausea gone now, still sleeping for England though. Think is more tiring this time as is my second.

In a bit of a paranoid phase where had my scan but because can't really feel movement yet so keep thinking negative thoughts. Silly really. Got 15 week Consulatant appt on Monday so hopefully they will listen to the heartbeat and reassure me. Stupidly bought a Doppler and can't pick up the heartbeat which is worrying me a bit but probably just a crap machine.

Bleurgh, pregnancy not as much fun when you've gone through mc.

How are you feeling? Any symptoms yet? Kicked in around 6 weeks for me I think.

Glad your nausea has stopped, bet that was hard. And I bet it's hard running after one child while being pg.

I'm sure the scan will go great in Monday, are you excited?

No symptoms really apart from a tiny bit if nausea, have sore boobs and progesterone cramps but that's normal for me. I do keep going to the loo every 2 mins tho as I'm still getting af type feelings. Is that normal??

Yes, totally normal. I always think early pregnancy is like PMS squared. It's just everything stretching and growing for the baby. A bit disconcerting I know but it settles/you get used to it.

Not a scan on Monday, they will just listen to the heartbeat with their doppler I think. But thanks!

yeh it is a bit scary, keep thinking af is going to arrive. When does it subside?

Sorry I'm a bit rubbish at the appts etc. I hope it all goes ok xx

At about 40 weeks?

Whoooop for IWish hola lovely :) congratulations.....

Second what LG says, pg is shit when you have had a mc....thankfully i honked up again this morning otherwise i was convinced i had no symptoms left!

I want a doppler but am terrified that i will go into the paranoia of thinking there is no heartbeat when i cant find it...! 16 weeks i think LG.

Do you have an anterior placenta Lady? Can dull the feeling of movement etc...

Apparently my placenta is on the side this time round, Nix! (MiniG's was anterior) Am hoping not anterior this time as also read makes you more likely to have a posterior labour and I felt sooo much pain in my back last time so would like to avoid if posible!

Am ignoring the stupid doppler for now

Throw it to one side for a week or so... I am in limbo now! Dont seem to have any further mw apts booked. Have bloods booked to be taken at 16 weeks as not now having the nuchal tests due to naughty little backflipping bean messing about...other than that nowt! should i have?

Nope, don't think so. Just limbo-land! Have an appt on Monday. A few times I have thought I felt a litte flutter but really could not swear to it not being wind! Can't wait to feel proper boots in the ribs (remind me of this in 4 months time when I am moaning!)

me too... in the evening.. when have had a lovely relaxing bath and chilling out in bed felt a couple of flutters, then a couple of gurgles and thought nope cant possibly be bambino!!

Could well be the beans, but we are just full of hot air too

40 weeks LadyG

Thnanks Nix huni . This is my first PG and im a little scared and excited.

Just booked my blood tests for my thyroid and booked my antenatal appt . 7th Feb for my bloods!! cant believe they cant do it any sooner. Doctor didnt sound too concerned though.

When did you ladies tell work? i dont want to tell mine for a few weeks yet...

Wish told my manager and deputy MD as soon as i needed to (when they approached me about a different job, felt it was only the right thing to do!) but other than that 13 weeks on sunday and noone else knows! Am not telling either.....

Nix how long are you going to keep the secret?? I want to keep the secret from work till about 8 weeks and will tell others at 12 weeks. Going to tell mine and DPs parents after my first antenatal appt. xx