The PESH Deli - No ESH left behind

[PerfectDromedary]

I have opened the virtual gin, found the Desperate Romantics and am about to start playing I've Never. Who's with me?

hunza I have been feeling pressure downstairs and at times it haz bloody bloody hurt. Enuff to take my breath away. I feel that you are gonna overtake me!!!!

I am having strange day aside from all the domesticity. Baybee is moving but not as much as usual. Could it be cos head is well and truly jammed engaged and is simply running out of room or cos s/he is weary today?? Think I am dehydrated too as had coupla headaches and have had THREE nbr twos today!!

Having a bath is no longer enjoyable. I could wallow soak for hours pre preggo. Now it's pure torture. Can't get comfortable.

Sorry for joining the me me me club. I am home alone hence the worry wart overdrive.

Oh thank you ladies. You are kind. It seems to have tailed off. It really wasn't much. Like I said, more wearied than worried. I am off to bed now as feeling wrecked so will see you all tomorrow.

Silver mini slowed down a lot towards the end. I think they have less and less room to move. And I could only have baths in the end when MrStew was there to haul me out as couldn't get out on my own, was like upturned beetle!

Night night all.

Hello worriedSky. You're right that movements slow down a bit as the baby runs out of space. I reckon if you can still feel movements, the baby's fine - but if you're worried, call a midwife?

Scorps Are you vomming or constantly nauseous? Tbh, I pretty much escaped the vom, so have nothing useful to say - apart from the fact that I found salty carbs helped with the constantly hungover feeling.

blimey silver and moo are neck and neck now.

cass sorry you are having such a hectic time and ovaltine on top of that. Doesn't sound like you are or need to be too worried but its not exactly what you need. ----

I always thought I wouldn't want to know the sex but have been coming round to it and I know TB would like to know asap. He says he thinks we are having a girl which I suppose it his way of saying he wants one. I am really not fussed either way. I haven't told him I want an HB yet so might traid finding out early for that :wink:

I don't feel very sick anymore but am constantly hungry even after just eating a meal. Is annoying.

Fanks drom and cass. Junior has begun moving prob cos I am laid on my side and that tends to get the little blighter shifting. Pregnancy is a rollercoaster of emotions. No point calling my mw as her phone is never on. You get a voicemail MSG telling you to call the hossie where you plan to lay at. Not to mention that she is off sick anyhoos. Knew I should have kept that mw appt today! Drat. Being as I can now feel movement I am feeling bit more cool calm and collected for now.

moo are you laying yet??!!!

Ahoy hoy Expanding Peshes

Still being good and not getting sucked in at work - hence the silence. Loads happening here though!

First some overdue congrats to muse for her promotion and gin for her second lovely boy. Well done both - fine work! Muse I am very impressed at the news that you are starting work on another baby blanket. The one I did burned me out completely. The hat is easy peasy by comparison...Good luck on finding out or not finding out baby's sex. I did - and it has been great knowing, but I can totally see the charm of the surprise too.

medee hope you got your results. I hated the whole "if you haven't heard from me by .... then everything's fine" approach too. Paranoid preggos need more than that.

curly I am a bit disquieted by your casual mention of the contractions you can't feel but which show up on the print-out - I had those too.

casserole I hope ministew is on the mend and your bloods come bacl clear soon. Sorry about the ovaltine. I had it for 2 days at some point early on too and it freaked me totally, but t'was nothing of course...

Oops accidentally posted - will carry right on then...Cluster posting, I believe it's called.

News from me is that I am due back at the midwife tomorrow for another check. The rest of the week has been OK, but not as relaxed as it should have been I guess. I get myself into a bit of a state worrying too - so know how you feel silver, but t'is normal I guess. Anyway, twice I have actually just gone into a pharmacy and asked them to take my blood pressure. I didn't know for sure they would actually do this btw - so made a cover purchase of paracetemol the first time - but they were lovely, so now I'm totally brazen about it. Both times it was kinda high though - hovering around the 140/90 mark still. So I may well find myself landed in for another round of monitoring in the hospital tomorrow unless there has been an improvement. If so, well so be it. I am "working" from home from next week anyway, so will be winding down big time. Just hope it works out that way. Fingers crossed for me tomorrow lovelies...

Moo I have also had the same feeling about the midwives at times. Mind told me that if anything happens and you have to have a doctor at the birth, they just leave (to avoid conflicting opinions etc). That was a bit shit I thought. And twice now I have seen that as soon as there is a suspicion of anything wrong, they comprehensively hand you over and that's that. My birth hopes and expectations are shifting a bit as a result.

Drom I love that book by AS Byatt and haven't read it for years. Yay - I must get it out of the library. I got "The Children's Book" recently as a present and enjoyed it a lot. Lovely news about hearing heartbeat. Aww, it's a great feeling. Two hours of it when hooked up to the monitor was a little repetitive minnd you, though still nice.

Silver I kinda missed how far along you were. You are full term now Missy! Reduction of movement could be start of labour, no less! Amazing stuff. Go you for keeping active and baking - I have given up on all that for a sofa lurking existence.

Cho PSML at cloudy jus. Yup, it's a bit freaky.

Drom - constant, incredibly painful nausea (even in my dreams!) AND big vomming at least twice a day. And yep, as Cho says, I asked for it!

Excitement at this new 'which one first?' race

Cass you sound very calm about the ovaltiney, I hope it fecks off for good.

Scorps, can your needling lady help with the vom?

I took the bus home after a work thing this evening. I decided to knit on the bus. Big mistake. Huge.

My arrival home was "lean on the doorbell while opening the outer flat door. MrM opens inner flat door asking what the commotion is about. I push past muttering "cat's outside, I'm gonna puke". I puke. I regret having the duck canape. I am very thankful I did not have the prawn canape."

I think the lesson from this is: do not eat duck canapes. Do not knit on the bus.

Silver DS slowed right down at the end - he was plotting the fastest route out.

Swits - sit down and rest, for God's sake, wwoman!

About the sex thing - the sonographer was absolutely certain DD was a girl, but this time round the sonographer at 20wks wasn't interested, so we had to go with the hunch the private scan lady had at 12 weeks. As it was, she was right. But I wan't going to believe DS was a boy till I saw it with my own eyes. Guess what? We were so surprised by him actually being born that we didn't check for a good while that he was actually a HE. I honestly don't think I could have been much more surprised if I'd given birth to kittens.

Surely I'm not the only one who burst in to tears when finding out the sex at 20 weeks? Whilst it may be "too clinical" an environment for some it's hardly an "oh whatevah" moment!

We were absolutely sure Bear was a boy - we had very clear 3D images of his meat & veg.

drom Did you not hear the hb at the 12 week scan then? Seems odd to me.

silver The first post-partum bath is a glorious experience. You will marvel at your toes, shave your legs, scrub your feet - you might even put a layer of new nail varnish on your toes! 'Tis truly a glorious experience! Tip: Make sure you've got a big bag of salt to chuck in the water if you've got any tears/cuts/c-section scars - saline is so good for healing "that sort of thing". My lovely lady - you do realise you're now top of the list right? You are NEXT! Unless we see some dirty rotten queue-jumping of course.

I didn't have one solitary drop of "nip jus" - rots was spraying at 3 weeks diffed. Just sayin' - all is normal, as normal as normal can be of course.

silver sorry things are worrying you... It does all sound like you could just be very close to laying an akshul baybee, but if you're worried always talk to someone.

swits hope it goes well today. Sounds pretty stressful...

scorps sorry you're feeling shit. My first pregnancy was one long round of vomit, this time hasn't been so bad but I know how vile it is. Poor muse too.

ski I have always felt that babies are surprising enough regardless of whether you know the boy or girl thing. Mooch certainly was And yeah, I would say it was an emotional moment, finding out. No more referring to 'it' etc...

Is a horses for courses thing really. There isn't a right thing, is there? Those who found out don't know what they would've felt like if they hadn't, those who didn't find out don't know how they'd feel if they had. Finding out was right for us.

moo aaaaargh re hb stuff. In answer to your question, no, they are not being supportive as such as I have been advised against hb. The consultant basically stated the case against, admitted it was only extreme and statistically unlikely scenarios I had to worry about, but pointed out that said scenarios would be catastrophic... Said it was up to us to debate it and make our own decision, we could talk with him again if we wanted. Also if we change our mind even 10 mins before we can go in. Also said some stuff about how some IMs can be dangerous, am not worried about this wrt mine tho.

That was a v long paragraph, if there's anything else you wanna know though just ask. One thing I hadn't expected was that I realised straight away there was no point in arguing my case, made more sense to just listen and make it clear that I was aware of the stuff he was telling me...

ps : my nips have remained dry.

Bollocks. And stew my lovely... I hope the oval tine fucks off properly.. And that you get a bit of rest.

Am sure there is more stuff I have missed, is fucking hard to keep up.

Has vag reported to feshworld yet?

Can I point out that I didn't say finding out at the scan was clinical or not-emotional. I think in fact I said of course it still would be emotional. But it's not what I've pictured. It's going to be amazing whenever you find out, but I have always pictured finding out at the birth. And while I have been wavering, I'm going to go with my first instinct.

gin Massive congrats on your second boy btw. When will a PESH lay a girl? All our boys will be gay through necessity!

Do you have faith in the consultant you spoke to?

I didn't take it like that muse... Lots of different opinions from everyone (which I imagine didn't make it any easier to make your mind up :))

Is different for everyone. It's about what makes you n mr m happy, innit. And none of us who have already been there know how differently we'd have felt if we chose the other option. So it's all good :)

How are you feeling today?

ski I have faith that he was doing his job.

Yes but doing his job isn't exactly inspiring (ticking boxes and asking questions you asked yourself 2 years ago). I kind of meant more, would you have faith in handing over to him your antenatal care now, or at a later (last minute) stage should shtf?

Yeah, if I had to go in then I would have faith in him. He wasn't a tosser or an alarmist, was actually a pretty decent bloke (and obviously knows a lot about delivering babies.)

Mr gin felt that he didn't really try and actually persuade me against hb, just made sure I was clear on the possible dangers etc... And he couldn't condone it as I don't think a consultant could condone anything that has a higher level of risk attached.

Also the questions I've had to ask myself this time are different to last time. I'm higher risk because of the scar, absolutely no other reason. There would be no advising against hb if I hadn't had a c section last time.

Also the questions I asked myself last time were 'do I want a hb??? Bloody hell NO!!!!'

I seem to be thinking about the whole thing completely differently this time round.

Ski all our boys here in my village are going to be toyboys! The girls here so far vastly outnumber the boys - he will have his pick of older laydeez.

Right. Got 17 mins to tidy the house, do the horses, get a shower and dress me and DD. OH was pre-warned repeatedly that I needed this hour this morning to do stuff, and he decided to make pancakes and then shout at DD for trying to snuggle up to him while he was eating. So my hour is now 16 mins and counting...

Glad you sound happy with everything gin. You sound very clear and sorted. I'm impressed.

I'm feeling ok today thanks. Although I would quite like these horrible vivid dreams to naff off. Last night it was friends telling me how dull I am and that they weren't going to see me anymore. Anyone else get the crazy dreams?

Alpine everyone I know seems to be having boys as well. One reason not to find out now is I'm slightly worried my mum will be disappointed with another grandson. She keeps going on about girls. I'm not sure I could take 20 weeks of "that's fine, boys are fine". Or 20 weeks of princess talk.

Morning all. Fanks for general niceness. Didn't quite get my early night last night as we had a big row instead. Anyone else find pregnancy directly detrimental to their relationship?? Anyway. Got some sleep in the end and some flowers this morning. And no ovaltine, so that's good.

Have handed mini over to grandparents this morning so am in bed with lappi for a morning of shit telly revising.

Do I live in the only PCT in Britain that still won't tell you the sex then? You have to get a private scan here if you want that sort of info. And pay £5 for a picture of your scan, too. Bastids!

Ginty haven't forgotten I promised you that CD; can't find it at mo but will keep looking.

Scorps hoping you have a less vommy day today. If all else fails, sleep, I say. And eat potatoes, in all their glorious incarnations

Witty thinking low pressure thoughts for you today. Working from home sounds just the ticket for next week.

Silver one of the reasons I went with an IM last time was because our area didn't HAVE a bloody community midwife; they'd all left and it was apparently beyond anyone to arrange cover. I don't live in the highlands, by the way, I live about 5 mins from the M25 so hardly remote. My midwife's name and number box remained resolutely un-filled in for the whole time and if I needed to see anyone I had to traipse to one of 3 hospitals (never the same one twice) depending on who could be arsed to see me that day. I never saw the same person more than once. So we opted out. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence, does it. Have to say that this time round there IS someone, who seems perfectly nice. But I feel your frustration about lack of availability etc.

Right. Revision, here I come. Pathology today. An unhappy morning of tumours lies ahead of me. It will at least put my pansy-assed moaning into perspective somewhat.

Dead legs and carbs to all.