support thread for women who are pregnant or TTC after a termination for abnormalities

[katiecubs]

Hi girls - i hope this becomes a useful area

God Katie - I just realised - isn't your move kind of now?! Good luck! Hope Hove is sunny and perfect and looking forward to hearing all about the new place too. xx

I'm actually moving down on tuesday next week LP so am in the middle of packing hell right now! I will keep everything crossed for sunday for you - BTW i think good days and bad days are part of the parcel symptoms wise so try (?!) not to worry about that.

Kittens thats great news that your scan was clear, i would hate for you to have to go through that again. I hope your appointment next week is helpful too so good luck for that. We have trouble with a big fat intruder cat who comes in and eats all of our poor cats food (she is a real wimp) is yours ginger?!

Lyn also good news that the bleeding has finally stopped! xxx

No he's not ginger, I can see why you ask though, they are usually the shirty ones round the neighbourhood who steal food and bully other cats. Mine is half black and half white. Pretty much the same markings as the Felix cat.

Lyn, good to hear things have settle with you. Are you planning to start trying again straight away or leave it a month or two?

I was thinking about Waffy too. Not seen much of her recently. Hope you're ok?

Good luck with the move Katie. Hope all goes smoothly.

LittlePoot, good luck to you too for Sunday. Will that be 9 weeks then? I've got everything crossed for you.

Hi all, calling in to send my congratulations to Numpty and her little girl.

I'm a week into a fresh ivf cycle. Down regging is going well. I'm swinging from positive that we are activly trying again to total fear that we will fail. All part of the ttc journey I know. Hearing of new arrivals and seeing some faces here from the sister thread who've had good news make the journey more doable.

Hi everyone
I have been meaning to come on here for ages to let those who might remember me know that our little boy arrived at the beginning of last month. I ended up with an emergency section, and he had some difficulties feeding at first, but we are learning fast together and he is an absolute joy. We still can't quite believe that he is "ours" for keeps!
I haven't yet read through all the June posts, but lots of love and luck to everyone here. I haven't mastered one-handed typing either so this message has taken me ages - hopefully I can come back soon with a few more details!
Kate x

It's lovely to hear so many of us feeling positive this week. Maybe it's the sunshine or the arrival of Baby Numpty, I don't know, but there is definitely an upbeat vibe.

That is good news about your scan kittens. What is the next step for you now?

I think we're destined to be on a bit of a roller-coaster. I know what you mean Poot about physical symptoms driving how you're feeling mentally and emotionally. The daily nausea is a comfort right now, even if only just bearable on a sweaty smelly Victoria Line tube.

Finally plucked up the courage to see the GP - he has referred me for an early scan to accurately date the pregnancy and a nuchal scan, but he said the early scan probably won't be that early as they don't prioritise dating scans. Fair enough I guess. Now it's just a case of waiting, and hoping...

Love to all xx

Hello, just popping by quickly 'cos I will be down in sussex tomorrow celebrating my lovely grandma's 90th birthday.

Good luck with the IVF cycle Always. And congratulations to Katerina.

Crazy, the next step is an appointment next Friday with the recurrent miscarriage clinic. Not entirely sure what that will entail. I've been having a look on the miscarriage board on here on info about testing, there seems to be quite a few issues that they test for. I will keep you all posted. BTW, which end of the Vicky line to you live? I'm up in Islington. Wondering if you're local to me.

If I don't get back on before, I hope everyone has a lovely weekend. x

Ooooo the victoria line, i used to do that when i wasn't pg and it made me feel sick then! (i'm from walthamstow).
Right you were all right when u said this thread was lucky i did a first response test earlier and got a BFP!!! i'm amazed i honestly didn't think i was but sure enough 2 pink lines clear as day, am now worrying so much that i should have left it longer before trying again, has anyone got pg again quite quickly? i terminated on April 1st?
Oh and congrats to Numpty!!!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Congratulations Dramamama. Yes, there's definitely some fertility luck floating around this thread at the moment!

I got pregnant fairly quickly after my last miscarriage, as did LittlePoot. Although I'm probably not the best example at the moment.

I quite like the Victoria line myself, it's super fast. Unfortunately a lot of people on the tube are rather smelly at the moment. Talking of Walthamstow, I have a job out that way on Sunday actually, The County Hotel in Woodford. I do get around

Congrats Dramarama - Great news. I lost my baby on April 20th, due to bleeding I have not been able to try again. I am now waiting on my next cycle until I try and hopefully I will also get the all clear from consultant.

Hope all the mummies to be are well and everyone else is ok (brief message as i'm going to be late for work AGAIN)

Looking forward to hearing about our latest addition and hope Numpty and baby are doing very well xxx

Morning all

Lovely news dramamama! I got pg again the first month of trying after my termination, but sadly lost that one at 5 weeks. Then got pg again the following month and am now almost 7 weeks... with crazy nausea, enormous boobs, craving ice-cold milk, and hoping...

Had a dream last night that I lost this baby. It was so real. And my god such a relief to wake up.

I'm the other end of the Victoria Line, I live in Streatham so I get on at Brixton, which guarantees a seat at least. Not a fan of the new trains they've started rolling out though, the seats are so uncomfortable! Give me a nice, squishy, beer-stained, rat infested old Victoria Line seat any day...

Congratulations Drama, such good news! You will feel overwhelmed and guilty and hopeful and scared, all at the same time. This is where I am now. But one way or the other, each day has to be lived separately from the others. This is at least how I am coping, and it also what Numpty was saying a few days ago in here: day by day, not thinking about the outcome of this pregnancy, but breaking it into small chunks and getting through each.

I think I am 5 + 2, although my dates put me a few days back. No nausea yet, which worries me.

Yesterday evening was a teary one, for apparently no reason at all. I just felt so very fragile and overwhelmed, and imagined myself in a scan room again, hearing the awful words : I am sorry but... DH is more positive, or is trying to be, he says we had no choice but to try again, since we both want children so much, so we have nothing else to do but cope with this as best we can. I realise I might sound ungrateful and I really am not. On the contrary, I am grateful to be pregnant again so quickly. It's just that every now and then fear is taking over.

I am afraid to contact my midwife, because I'm only 5 weeks and so much can happen, and I stupidly worry that by acknowledging this pregnancy I am tempting fate .

Anyway, sorry about the totally self-indulgent post, I just needed to let it all out. I promise I'll get myself together soon, will catch up with all the posts and will be up to personals next time

Oh sweetie - there's a lot of us feeling exactly the same as you - please don't write any of it off as stupid or self-indulgent!! That's exactly what we're here for. x

Nausea really shouldn't kick in at 5 weeks, and you don't necessarily get it every time at all. I had sore boobs at 5 weeks and had gone off chocolate. Starting to feel a bit tired (struggling with the 4 flights of stairs at work) too, but that was about all. Please try not to worry. Another thing which helps me is remembering that worrying will not change the outcome. There's no planning you can do or back-up plans to put in place. Worrying will just keep you up at night, and that's no use to you at all. Easy to say I know, and I'm definitely not a picture of calm myself, but I try and remind myself of the wise words on here every day and let the time pass. Every day is one day nearer to knowing and they will soon add up. xxx

And drama - I waited ages after my termination (same kind of problems as Lyn, but thankfully not quite so bad) and then miscarried anyway. But I did get pregnant quickly after my miscarriage. 2nd cycle I think. Katerina who just had her baby (massive congratulations to you too!) must have got pregnant very quickly after the termination last year - I seem to remember that being late summer/early autumn. There's a real mixture on here and it doesn't seem to have affected the outcome. Just enjoy those two pink lines! xx

Thank you Littlepoot, you are right of course, worrying doesn't change the outcome. So far I have managed to keep my worry under control by not really acknowledging this pregnancy, but it has started to "hit" me every now and then.

I actually called St George's a few minutes ago and they told me they have a walk-in EPU and I can go there any time to have an early dating scan. I explained I think I am a bit further along than my dates indicate. I don't want this scan for reassurance, there is no reasurance for me until 21 weeks at least, but just to make sure my 12 week scan is done exactly at 12 weeks and not later.

Crazycat, if the waiting time is too long for your early scan, this might be an option for you as well. I don't live in London and it wouldn't be a problem for me to go to their EPU, so I'm sure they'd see you. Plus they're open on Saturday morning as well, which is quite convenient.

So if all goes well until 8 weeks, I think I'll go then.

Oh Katerina massive congratulations on the safe arrival of your son! I am so glad to hear it, i hope you are enjoying being a mummy

Drama big congratulations to you too - there really must be something in the water! I got pregnant again quite quickly (just 1 AF after termination) and all is good so far so don't worry about that.

Coffee sorry you had a hard day yesterday i think everything you are feeling is very normal, we are here for you though so be brave and just take one step at a time. As for symptoms i didn't get any nausea this time until 7.5 weeks (1st time it was 5/6 weeks so i think every pregnancy is different).

BTW am also a victoria line girl! Crazy i live in Brixton (but only for another few days!) and used to get the tube in everyday so we may have even crossed paths!

Katie xxx

Oh katie you're just up the road then, how funny! Hope you're all set for the move. Think of me when you're heading down the A23 through Streatham on the way to your new life by the sea...

Coffee it's so hard to acknowledge a new pregnancy after what we've all been through. I felt the same as you about not wanting to jinx it. I did finally pluck up the courage to see the GP just to get in the system for scan dates etc. Didn't know that about St George's though... that's my closest hospital, even though I'll book in at St Thomas's, I might go there at 8 weeks too if I haven't had a scan date through.

Poot, how are you doing?

Katerina thank you for sharing your lovely news. We haven't met before on these threads but it's so encouraging to hear of little ones arriving safely xx

Crazycat - I'm doing ok I think. OK, as in after worrying yesterday (don't listen coffee - worry is bad!) that my symptoms weren't there any more, I got home and went to bed at 8pm because I was so knackered! Only another couple of days to wait for the scan, so trying to just fill the time until then. In the back of my mind, a bitter little voice is worrying piping up that the scan's going to be bad and I might be feeling this crap for nothing. That would be a kick in the teeth for sure. But hopefully it won't come to that.... My only real worry (that damned word again!) is that at the scan the other week, I was sure I was 7 weeks pregnant, and they dated me at just 6+2. 6+2 really isn't possible, so if that was the right measurement then somebody's not growing properly. I know its only a few days, and at 7mm long they can't be that easy to measure, but that's the only worry I can't quite shift. Like I said, only 2 days to go. x

Thanks girls, this is the strangest feeling in the world, it's happy mixed with anxious, scared and just plain elated...in fact i actually feel naucious i need to chill out! Damn it the one time i need a good glass of wine i can't have it! lol, Katie i have had 2 AF's since termination so hopefully my body is in a good enough state to hang on in there...saying that it wouldn't have gotten pg if it wasn't ready would it?, Katie also hope you don't mind me asking (if so sorry just ignore me) but what did u terminate for? and how far along are you now? it always uplifts me hearing success storys.
Coffee i shall also be watching for morning sickness (or in my case all day all night sickness) as i was sick from around 7wks with DS1 and not sick with Liam till just after 12 wks, and like you i'll be taking it one day at a time i think it's a good idea to ease ourselves in gently; i'll hold your hand if you hold mine?
Ok also has anyone had a cvs second time round because i'm seriously considering it, i had an amnio last time and although i know the cvs is more invasive i deal better with (how can i put this eloquently) things going up rather then going through i hated the amnio and only went through with it because they found the AVSD in the scan beforehand so any experience would help me greatly and be very much appreciated.
Right i'm off to eat something cause i am starving although i had breakfast not long ago...here we go again! lol XxXxXxXxX

Is it Sunday for your scan then Poot? I do think the first trimester ailments are much harder to bear when there is doubt placed in our minds from previous pregnancies.

I remember with DD, naively saying to myself on my most nauseous days that it was all ok, because I'd get a beautiful baby at the end of it. I was lucky that time, and I did, but this time it's much harder to think positively and cope with the nausea and tiredness.

Dramamama I had a CVS at 12 weeks with my second pregnancy and it did go in via the belly. It wasn't pleasant but it wasn't painful either, and it was over in less than 60 seconds. I just didn't look down... I felt a bit achy and sore for a couple of days afterwards but no other side effects.

Am sitting here sipping chicken stock to stave off nausea ... have a PT session at the gym tonight and I am scared, have only exercised once since last Friday since it's been so hot. But the gym does help with the nausea, oddly, so I'm looking forward to that!

Crazy i used to live in streatham too for a few years, near streatham hill station so i know the area well! I will give you a wave as a pass through next week

Drama i don't mind you asking at all no. I terminated for Turners Syndrome which although can be a rather mild chromosome disorder in my case the baby was very sick and sadly would not have survived. I'll be 34 weeks on Monday so approaching the finishing line now! I didn't have any invasive testing this time around because my NT risk numbers came back so positive, when i did have the CVS first time round though it was through the tummy.

Also meant to say i will be on the bench for you on sunday LP sending you all the luck in the world xx

Hello everyone! Sorry it's taken me so long to get on here - we just got home from hospital yesterday evening.

Firstly - congrats Katerina on the safe arrival of your little boy, so pleased to hear that all is well and really hope you enjoy your time together!

Congrats also to Mimsy and Drama, really hoping all goes well for you both - hope to see you soon, Mimsy .

Well, Monday was a rollercoaster! After I last posted we went to hospital hoping they would say yes, waters have gone but you can have more time/come back etc. However they found traces of meconium (ie baby poo) in the waters; this can be for two reasons, 1) baby is distressed or 2) baby is at term, and has already moved bowels. They could tell that it was the latter type of meconium, so it wasn't an emergency but they did want to press on with getting me into labour. For a while I thought it was going to be a repeat of my labour with DS but I asked Registrar if I couldn't just have a pessary instead and thankfully consultant agreed with me! So at 6pm I had the pessary and at 11.11pm DD was born; it was so much better than last time I almost don't think I'd have got it better if I'd just gone into labour naturally. The TENS machine was great (though I kept forgetting the 'boost' button as things got more intense...) and I even got the hang of gas & air better this time. And got to hold my little girl just after she'd been born! We've called her Josie, 'the Lord shall add'.

We ended up staying in for a while for a couple of reasons - firstly because although I breastfed DS for 2yrs, my boobs seem to have forgotten all of this and are finding it very painful all over again. I know if I get through this stage all will be fine, it WAS lovely with DS but only after a few weeks. So I'm trying to persevere, but was making the most of help from the mw at hospital. The second reason is that at her paediatric check-up, DD was found to have a heart murmur. A lot of new babies have a heart murmur, and most of these resolve within 24hrs, but hers hasn't as yet and they think she has a small hole. So it took a couple of days to establish this but they aren't overly concerned, her general health is fine (blood pressure, blood oxygenation) and they will arrange a scan in the next couple of weeks to find out more.

In the meantime, it's great to be home! And DS is being a lovely big brother, giving her cuddles, rocking the cradle and I suspect he wants to pick her up too... he's also wanting to be baby, eg lying on her day bed, so I guess he's just trying to figure out his role. He'd like to be big brother, but on the other hand he DOES still want to be my baby. Hopefully we can reassure him that he is still both ie he can do lots that DD can't but also that we love him just as much as her.

So thanks girls for all the pom pom waving (most impressed!); looking forward to getting mine out for Allstars and Katie very soon! xxx

Hi all, I have a garage sale coming up tomorrow so have banned myself from posting for a couple of days, however I just had to say 'Congratulations' to Katerina on your little boy!!! (I think a few might have missed it). Very happy for you xx

Also congrats to Drama - I have to say 'I told you so!' xx

And also Kittens- tis good you haven't had to have any more intervention xxx

must go - loads to do. Love to all xxx

Drama, no experience of amnio/CVS. I am bad at giving advice, but try to wait until you have your nuchal/bloods, to see what they say and what your odds look like. Chances are it will all be fine (you are oly 25, aren't you?) and you will be reassured, so you will not feel like you need an invasive test. On the other hand, if you feel like you need to know for sure no matter what, there is plenty of time to decide.

Poot, I have no experience of early scans, but I would imagine it is very easy to be a few days more/less than your dates indicate? And I remember you saying there was a strong heartbeat, which is certainly a good sign? Telling you not to worry would be like the pot calling the kettle black, all I can say is that I hope you will find ways to distract yourself until Sunday.xx

Hi Numpty great to hear from you thanks for the update! So glad to hear the labour went well and so quick!

Josie is a beautiful name and so fitting, i look forward to hearing more about her when you have had time to rest and adjust. Take care and big congratulations again xxx