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AIBU to stay in a hotel rather than someone's house

204 replies

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 10:51

This may be my stance because I HATE having house guests.

Long story short - a very elderly family member has passed away. It was peaceful and pleasant and probably the nicest kind of death you could hope for of an older person if this makes sense. So, numerous members of my family are all convening at his house this weekend to start to clear things out and also make funeral arrangements. He lives 2 hours away from me. I’m going today on the train to help out, for 2 nights. DH and the kids (6&9) are staying at home.

My mum is staying at my aunty’s (her sister) house and they offered for me to stay as well as my adult cousin lives there but is away at the moment so I could use her room. I initially said yes because decisions all happened so quick, but have since looked at local hotels. I found an amazing one with a lovely suite on a really good deal (£250 for 2 nights, it’s a tourist town). DH pointed out that I’m grieving, I never get time to myself and I should enjoy being in the lap of luxury, child free, while I have the chance. He knows I also hate being a guest, even in family’s homes. I hate having to ask if it’s ok to get a drink, use the shower, etc. I also like to be able to have a long walk on an evening and don’t like to have to have people come along.

So I booked this hotel (I pay at the property and can cancel until 2pm), and messaged my mum. Who has since rang me and said it’s very rude to suddenly cancel on my Aunty, she’s made the bed up for me and they were going to get a takeaway tonight but only if there’s lots of us, there’s no point if I’m not there.

I said sorry but I wanted to be able to enjoy time away from the kids and my mum has taken this personally as if to say staying with her and Aunty isn’t going to be enjoyable.

AIBU to think she’s being ridiculous and I’m not in the wrong by staying in the suite? Also wanted to go for a meal on my own tonight, at a restaurant my family probably wouldn’t go to, and just enjoy the solitude a little bit, as it will be a pretty intense weekend. I’ll be seeing them plenty over the next 2 days so don’t feel like I have to be attached to their hips.

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NoSquirrels · 14/01/2023 14:25

You are approaching this as a logical issue.

Your mum is reacting emotionally.

MrsSchrute · 14/01/2023 14:25

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 14:13

OK, if it was your mum how would you react to her? Not being shitty, genuinely curious.

If it was my Mum I would stay at the house. Yes it would be less comfortable and more inconvenient for me, but she has lost her brother, which is no small thing, so if it made her feel happier to have me stay with her then that's what I would do. I would make it about her, not me.
You wouldn't, that's your choice, but I don't think she is unreasonable to be upset about it.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 14:25

NoSquirrels · 14/01/2023 14:22

OK…. in my view her upset is disproportionate and you seem to be implying I should stay somewhere I don’t wanna stay just to ease her upset?

No! I am saying STAY WHERE YOU WANT TO. I’m not sure how to be clearer about that.

I am merely saying it is ALSO okay that your mum feels differently so don’t make it a battle where one side is ‘right’ and the other ‘wrong’.

You feel differently. Accept it and move on.

Ok but I really don’t know what your point is - you say we feel differently and nobody is wrong in the way they feel, but also I’ve behaved in a way that shouldn’t?

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 14:26

FGS please do ignore my lack of proof reading! I need to start reading before I press send

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 14:27

NoSquirrels · 14/01/2023 14:25

You are approaching this as a logical issue.

Your mum is reacting emotionally.

I agree! Which reflects our personalities I suppose. But one doesn’t automatically Trump the other

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 14:29

MrsSchrute · 14/01/2023 14:25

If it was my Mum I would stay at the house. Yes it would be less comfortable and more inconvenient for me, but she has lost her brother, which is no small thing, so if it made her feel happier to have me stay with her then that's what I would do. I would make it about her, not me.
You wouldn't, that's your choice, but I don't think she is unreasonable to be upset about it.

She hasn’t lost her brother. I haven’t been specific about the relative and won’t to avoid outing.

TBH, I’m worse than useless to her staying somewhere overcrowded where I won’t be happy or comfortable. So I’m not ‘putting her second’ by staying in a hotel. Putting someone first doesn’t just mean letting them get their way. Anyone with children knows that!

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KiwiMum2023 · 14/01/2023 14:33

All totally fine and reasonable OP. No idea why you’re getting such a hard time. Go and enjoy the time out and celebrate your relative’s life.

Inastatus · 14/01/2023 14:34

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 14:21

You also initially said you weren’t going to go for the takeaway because you would prefer to eat out on your own at a nice restaurant. I can see how that would have hurt your mum

I didn’t say this to my mum. I just listed that in the reasons I wanted to be alone in a hotel room.

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet I know you didn’t tell your mum that (I don’t think you are that insensitive 😅) Obviously emotions are heightened at this time and your mum is a bit needy of you. I hope you manage to achieve a nice balance of being there for her and getting your ‘me’ time.

slithytoveisascientist · 14/01/2023 14:38

I read the comments on luxury and enjoyment as what the DH said, not what OP explained to her mum. And the DH is not grieving - and it makes sense he would put OP first and help her to carve out opportunities for enjoyment in an otherwise challenging time.

I have 2 kids in primary so perhaps am very empathetic towards this - but it makes perfect sense to me that if for any reason you are given child free time, you try not to fill it with other responsibilities and make it as peaceful as possible. OP can do that at nighttime, and so she should.

You can't pour from an empty cup and all that.

poetryandwine · 14/01/2023 14:40

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet I was one of the first posters and I gave you a mild but heartfelt YANBU reaction, heightened by the fact that you are having that takeaway with your family.

However your replies to others since then have changed my mind. You really don’t seem able to appreciate any POV but your own (which I largely share, but so what?) Generally people post on AIBU as a way of learning about other POVs and giving the thoughtful ones serious consideration. You (and I) gave been given a number of things to think about here. You’ve just batted them away.

LookItsMeAgain · 14/01/2023 14:41

@maddiemookins16mum - unfortunately from the app I can't quote your post that includes a quote already but can I ask why you think the weekend can't be not a time for the OP and her family to grieve and a time for her to breathe and have some precious time just for her, away from her kids?
Surely they aren't mutually exclusive?

WedonttalkaboutMaureen · 14/01/2023 14:45

I just think it's rude that you haven't actually messaged your Aunt directly to thank her for the offer of hospitality but kindly explain. Yes she may be busy today but surely that's the polite, adult thing to do and she can read the message when suits.
Going through your Mum just seems - juvenile? Like you've already regressed to teenage sulky patterns of behaviour.
And if they've lost their second parent they will be feeling vulnerable and extra emotional and yes, you've put your feelings over theirs.

If you've got the cash to splash out on a hotel weekend, and what sounds like a decent husband, why couldn't you have stayed at your Aunts to be kind and then gone for a "recovery" weekend another time on your own to enjoy "solitude and time away"? Do you not SEE how this has come across to grieving people?

LookItsMeAgain · 14/01/2023 14:52

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet - make sure that you check in to the hotel before you get to the house or it's possible that your mother will take your bag and start unpacking it in the room your aunt made up the bed for.
If your mum or aunt says anything, my advice would be to say thanks for making the bed up but you've already checked in to the hotel and sure, it'll mean that there's a whole bed that aunt won't have to unmake and wash the sheets of at the end of all of this so that's one less thing to be done. (Try and find the silver lining here)

Flowersinthebasement · 14/01/2023 15:07

KiwiMum2023 · 14/01/2023 14:33

All totally fine and reasonable OP. No idea why you’re getting such a hard time. Go and enjoy the time out and celebrate your relative’s life.

I absolutely agree with this.

OP you are an adult, you can decide what's best for you. You will be supporting the family all day for at least 2 days. Your mother and her sister will be fine with each other. You haven't abandoned them.

I do realise that initially you accepted, but this often happens when "caught on the hop". Don't worry about it, stay in the hotel and let others have a moan about it. If Aunt is not worried or offended then that's all that matters, and even if she was she will get over it.

Sorry for your loss. Death and grieving are not pleasant times.

Bog · 14/01/2023 15:30

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 12:46

I am very direct, always have been, DH is too and I do sometimes forget that others aren’t always - my mum is the other way, very sensitive and skirts around issues or doesn’t say what she means and expects us to decode it. It’s not easy

Your very direct approach comes across as rude and downright nasty from some of your responses to other threads.

Bog · 14/01/2023 15:31

poetryandwine · 14/01/2023 14:40

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet I was one of the first posters and I gave you a mild but heartfelt YANBU reaction, heightened by the fact that you are having that takeaway with your family.

However your replies to others since then have changed my mind. You really don’t seem able to appreciate any POV but your own (which I largely share, but so what?) Generally people post on AIBU as a way of learning about other POVs and giving the thoughtful ones serious consideration. You (and I) gave been given a number of things to think about here. You’ve just batted them away.

Read her responses to other OPS, she seems rather nasty to be honest.

AbsoluteYawns · 14/01/2023 15:35

Why are you even questioning yourself OP. GO FOR IT! Your mum will be P.A whatever you do. Definitely have a quiet peaceful time when you're in the hotel.

longtompot · 14/01/2023 16:13

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet I thought I remembered your username. The thread about another family thing with which showed very much what your mum is like, and you are NBU to need time away, from her especially. I hope things are going well at the house and that, like you said, your aunt is ok with you💐

Ninjapot · 14/01/2023 16:22

What a mad thread! Your AIBU was were you wrong to think your Mum is being ridiculous. No, you're not wrong. It's also not rude to defend yourself when you get hysterical replies from people who are extrapolating all sorts of things that aren't actually happening.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 14/01/2023 16:55

I hope your mother hasn't lost her mother or father in this.

Clearly it's important that you stay with her. You never do, which most of the time is fair enough.

Sometimes we should put someone else first though and if it is a parent your Mum has lost then it's quite rude imo not to consider her feelings in wanting you there.

WedonttalkaboutMaureen · 14/01/2023 18:29

Yeah the OP is definitely on the "brutal" list of MN posters and just seems to lack some emotional intelligence/empathy for others feelings. Even a "difficult" mum. I'd like to hear Mum's side of the story.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 20:36

Evening all.
just got back to the hotel. Absolutely shattered but we got a lot done! A few tip runs, sifting through paperwork, making decisions, charity shop drop-offs and boxing things up. Stopped for a bag of chips that my uncle went out for, then we all called it a day at about 8pm.

My Aunty couldn’t have given a shit that I wasn’t staying over at hers. She told me to enjoy the hotel and she doesn’t blame me at all.

having come back here I’m so happy I made this choice to decompress somewhere. It’s so nice to have a lay down on a comfy bed with no one nearby, room service (bloody starving even after the chips) and a lovely hot bath waiting for me. Definitely what I needed. There’s enough people around that my mum has loads of company and seems absolutely fine (in the circumstances). Starting again at 10am in the morning! Nice to be able to recharge my batteries on my terms.

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Forthelast · 14/01/2023 20:59

That's nice for you.

Throwncrumbs · 14/01/2023 21:05

I take it the person who died in a pleasant way is your mums parent, your grand parent, I think you a highly insensitive. Your poor mum and her sister are grieving and you are treating this like a mini break. Have a lovely few days 🙄

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 21:12

Throwncrumbs · 14/01/2023 21:05

I take it the person who died in a pleasant way is your mums parent, your grand parent, I think you a highly insensitive. Your poor mum and her sister are grieving and you are treating this like a mini break. Have a lovely few days 🙄

Yes such a lovely mini break doing tip runs, clearing out clutter, going through paperwork and choosing hymns. Just like Center Parcs 🙄

In what way am I treating it like a mini break?

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