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AIBU to stay in a hotel rather than someone's house

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 10:51

This may be my stance because I HATE having house guests.

Long story short - a very elderly family member has passed away. It was peaceful and pleasant and probably the nicest kind of death you could hope for of an older person if this makes sense. So, numerous members of my family are all convening at his house this weekend to start to clear things out and also make funeral arrangements. He lives 2 hours away from me. I’m going today on the train to help out, for 2 nights. DH and the kids (6&9) are staying at home.

My mum is staying at my aunty’s (her sister) house and they offered for me to stay as well as my adult cousin lives there but is away at the moment so I could use her room. I initially said yes because decisions all happened so quick, but have since looked at local hotels. I found an amazing one with a lovely suite on a really good deal (£250 for 2 nights, it’s a tourist town). DH pointed out that I’m grieving, I never get time to myself and I should enjoy being in the lap of luxury, child free, while I have the chance. He knows I also hate being a guest, even in family’s homes. I hate having to ask if it’s ok to get a drink, use the shower, etc. I also like to be able to have a long walk on an evening and don’t like to have to have people come along.

So I booked this hotel (I pay at the property and can cancel until 2pm), and messaged my mum. Who has since rang me and said it’s very rude to suddenly cancel on my Aunty, she’s made the bed up for me and they were going to get a takeaway tonight but only if there’s lots of us, there’s no point if I’m not there.

I said sorry but I wanted to be able to enjoy time away from the kids and my mum has taken this personally as if to say staying with her and Aunty isn’t going to be enjoyable.

AIBU to think she’s being ridiculous and I’m not in the wrong by staying in the suite? Also wanted to go for a meal on my own tonight, at a restaurant my family probably wouldn’t go to, and just enjoy the solitude a little bit, as it will be a pretty intense weekend. I’ll be seeing them plenty over the next 2 days so don’t feel like I have to be attached to their hips.

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QueSyrahSyrah · 14/01/2023 12:10

BungleandGeorge · 14/01/2023 11:56

Yes it’s rude to cancel on the day you’re arriving.

Even when the original plans were only made on the fly the day before that?

Honestly I don't think it's rude at all to remove yourself as an additional guest in the home of someone who is grieving and already has a number of guests to deal with.

Bearing in mind that it's OP's Mum who has spoken and objected on behalf of the host. The host herself could be quietly relieved to have one less guest for all we know.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 12:12

maddiemookins16mum · 14/01/2023 11:50

But this weekend isn’t about having space away from the kids, it’s about being part of your extended family and all that it involves when someone you all loved dies. YABU.

But I AM away from the kids and want to enjoy the solitude. I don’t have to be attached to my mum’s hip to be supportive following this death.
bearing in mind one of my brothers isn’t even coming down to help, he will ‘see us all at the funeral’, I think my helping clear out the house and sort funeral bits is still very much being involved, I just want to lay my head somewhere peaceful

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Bigweekend · 14/01/2023 12:16

QueSyrahSyrah · 14/01/2023 12:10

Even when the original plans were only made on the fly the day before that?

Honestly I don't think it's rude at all to remove yourself as an additional guest in the home of someone who is grieving and already has a number of guests to deal with.

Bearing in mind that it's OP's Mum who has spoken and objected on behalf of the host. The host herself could be quietly relieved to have one less guest for all we know.

Well yes indeed, OP should at least speak to the host herself.

SerenaTee · 14/01/2023 12:18

I don’t disagree that you should stay in a hotel if that’s your preference, it’d be mine too. I hate staying at others houses and very much prefer my own space. But it could come across that you’re trying to shoehorn in a treat for yourself when the focus for the rest of your family is the bereavement and it’s raised some eyebrows. Emotions are going to be heightened all round, I’d just turn up with a box of chocolates for your auntie to apologise for the confusion, stay for a takeaway to do the family stuff then retreat to the hotel.

SpookyBlackCat · 14/01/2023 12:19

She just made up a bed. It isn't a big deal at all.

Don't feel bad about it at all and enjoy your peace and quiet. It sounds well deserved.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 12:20

BloodAndFire · 14/01/2023 11:52

Yeah, agreed. It's not meant to be about 'enjoying' yourself. That's an odd word to use in this context.

The idea is for family to be together and support each other, not eat out at posh restaurants etc.

I think there is a lot of backstory here.

Who said it was posh?

I have to eat somewhere. I have to stay somewhere. I may as well be somewhere and eat somewhere where I’m going to be happy or get pleasure.

A bit odd to consider that I should make myself as miserable as possible. Surely it makes sense in times like this to grab moments of pleasure rather than wallow? It’s not Victorian times FFS there are no rules on behaviour you must follow when grieving

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 12:22

Bigweekend · 14/01/2023 11:53

You know you've made a mistake here OP, that's why you're being so defensive.

Presumably they're grieving too and have lost a family member, so are understandably feeling sensitive and fragile about any more fracturing of the family.

Fine to say no, but not to cancel at the last minute.

I haven’t made a mistake. And I’m still gonna stay in the hotel.

We are all grieving obviously, and whilst my Aunty is lovely my mum can be a lot especially in times like this, and I think staying with her all the time for the next 72 hours will be too much for me. She has plenty of other support, she doesn’t need me to sleep in the next room in order to be supported.

Ive said we will do a takeaway tonight then I’ll head back to the hotel

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 12:25

FlounderingFruitcake · 14/01/2023 12:05

Should I be wearing black and crying loudly because I’m grieving? I don’t hate myself so I do think it’s fine to try and enjoy myself when I’m feeling sad. Should I be having a terrible time?

Does it really have to be one extreme or another? Surely no one is expecting you to rock up dressed a Victorian mourner and wailing at full volume. However, seeing a family death as an opportunity for an enjoyable mini break is insensitive and really rather strange. Most people would surely find a middle ground where it’s totally fair enough to not want to stay with your Aunt but they’d also willing spend evenings with their family, because they want to be with them during a difficult time. Or maybe there’s some huge family backstory you’re not going into. But on face value you’ve messed up, not for the hotel, but for the rest of it.

Who said I’m looking for ‘an opportunity to enjoy a mini break’.

Ill be spending the day time clearing out the house, doing tip/charity runs, organising things to go to other people’s houses, picking readings/hymns, rehearsing readings (I’ve agreed to read a Bible extract) and getting in touch with other family about the funeral. Pardon me for wanting to go and have some peace and a long bath afterwards

Brilliant mini break, I should advertise it as an activity on AirBnB really, alongside abseiling and kayaking.

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NoSquirrels · 14/01/2023 12:27

I have to eat somewhere. I have to stay somewhere. I may as well be somewhere and eat somewhere where I’m going to be happy or get pleasure.

And if you’re expressing it (even unwittingly) in these terms to your mum and wider family, don’t be surprised if they act upset or make pass-agg comments about how you don’t like them.

Ultimately, do as you please, of course, but you asked if you could seem to be unreasonable and I think yes, on this particular occasion you seem a bit unreasonable to appear to prioritise your own wishes over your mum’s.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 12:27

rookiemere · 14/01/2023 12:10

It's difficult to gauge people's responses when someone elderly passes.
I went to my DGFs funeral- he was 99 and the last 5 years of his life and my uncle who looked after him, had been spent wishing he was dead.

I was pleased to see relatives I hadn't seen for a long time at the funeral and felt it should be more of a celebration for DGFs life rather than a sad and somber event. I quickly realised I had read the room wrong and dialled back to sombre pretty quickly.

I think this is the issue here. You and your DH are multi tasking and using the event as a bit of a break for you, which is fine but shouldn't have been shared with your DM.

Yes, this relative was nearly 90 and we are all in a ‘thank god he didn’t suffer’ mindset because the last elderly relative had dementia for 7 years and a really long and uncomfortable end of life, and was on palliative care for weeks longer than she should have been. This relative essentially died peacefully in his sleep in hospital after contracting pneumonia (I drove down and back in a day to visit through the week thankfully!). No one is weeping and wailing but it is, of course, very very sad.

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Lysianthus · 14/01/2023 12:29

OP I love having people to stay, but this isn't a 'people to stay' sort of thing. You are going to help out and you are sharing the takeaway. Where you sleep is immaterial really, and it's actually very sensible to do something calming for your wellbeing. Your mother and aunt will have each other (and the other three) for support overnight. Enjoy your peace, your walk, and your rare time away from the kids, and try your best to ignore any sarky remarks. They will be said in the context of grief, and if you understand that it's not personal, it will be easier to get through the next 48 hours.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 12:29

QueSyrahSyrah · 14/01/2023 12:10

Even when the original plans were only made on the fly the day before that?

Honestly I don't think it's rude at all to remove yourself as an additional guest in the home of someone who is grieving and already has a number of guests to deal with.

Bearing in mind that it's OP's Mum who has spoken and objected on behalf of the host. The host herself could be quietly relieved to have one less guest for all we know.

I thought this, I don’t actually know if my Aunty is annoyed or not as I haven’t spoken to her, she is busy at the house and doesn’t especially have time to referee pettiness.

I don’t think it’s too bad either - it was literally last night my mum said I could stay at my aunty’s and then I booked the hotel just before bed after DH persuaded me to look after myself and grab some peace, and then I told mum when I woke up at 8am.

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Lysianthus · 14/01/2023 12:30

Oh, and kudos to your DH who sounds like a really thoughtful, loving man.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 12:31

Bigweekend · 14/01/2023 12:16

Well yes indeed, OP should at least speak to the host herself.

She’s been at the house starting to clear things since 8am I’m not going to message to check if she’s really very mad at me like my mum is making out. I passed on my thanks. I doubt my Aunty will be offended she’s too easy going. But I perhaps will gauge when I arrive there. This bloody train seems to be stopping at every sodding blade of grass on the way 🙄 (only have 1 car and DH needs it)

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 12:32

SerenaTee · 14/01/2023 12:18

I don’t disagree that you should stay in a hotel if that’s your preference, it’d be mine too. I hate staying at others houses and very much prefer my own space. But it could come across that you’re trying to shoehorn in a treat for yourself when the focus for the rest of your family is the bereavement and it’s raised some eyebrows. Emotions are going to be heightened all round, I’d just turn up with a box of chocolates for your auntie to apologise for the confusion, stay for a takeaway to do the family stuff then retreat to the hotel.

I don’t know where the idea that I’ve told them I’m treating myself has come from. I said I’d booked a hotel to not invade their space and to get a bit of peace whilst I’m away from the kids.

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HappyNewYear2023 · 14/01/2023 12:33

Christ what a lot of drama over nothing. The Aunt wasn't hosting in the formal sense. She made a bed up. Big deal. I can't see why a change of plan is rude or hurtful. It's a few hours in the evening.

I would have told Aunt myself though.

Have a wonderful couple of nights OP.

rookiemere · 14/01/2023 12:35

I also remember when we got the news my uncle had died, heart attack whilst climbing a hill on holiday with his younger second DW.

I thought it was a great way to go and when it's my turn, I would want it to happen suddenly on holiday after a life well enjoyed, but my DM was very questioning on the causes and how sudden it was and was there going to be an autopsy so clearly she didn't feel the same way about it.

You do seem to have a tendency to be direct - which I normally think is a good thing- but on this occasion when you're there I'd try to think about what people what to hear and have some stock platitudes ready for use.

rookiemere · 14/01/2023 12:35

Sorry should have mentioned uncle was 86 when he died.

TimeForMeToF1y · 14/01/2023 12:39

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 11:42

Oh it will be.

Or my mum will make passive aggressive comments forever more about how I hate my family. “Oh you’re coming to visit? I’m surprised, I thought you hated seeing your family”

For that reason alone you aren't unreasonable, an adult behaving like a petulant toddler wouls lose any respect from me

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 12:40

NoSquirrels · 14/01/2023 12:27

I have to eat somewhere. I have to stay somewhere. I may as well be somewhere and eat somewhere where I’m going to be happy or get pleasure.

And if you’re expressing it (even unwittingly) in these terms to your mum and wider family, don’t be surprised if they act upset or make pass-agg comments about how you don’t like them.

Ultimately, do as you please, of course, but you asked if you could seem to be unreasonable and I think yes, on this particular occasion you seem a bit unreasonable to appear to prioritise your own wishes over your mum’s.

But why are my mum’s wishes more important than mine? I’m showing up, I’m putting physical work in, I’m doing my bit rather than just saying ‘see you at the funeral’. I’m not slacking or being lazy or unhelpful - is it so terrible to expect after long days to have a bit of space for myself

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Zombiemum1946 · 14/01/2023 12:42

It's only 2 days and your mum wants to be with you at this time. It won't end your anxiety but focus on having done the right thing by your family especially your mum. If you really want time away, book a weekend for another time therefore not having to worry about offending anyone.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 12:45

Lysianthus · 14/01/2023 12:30

Oh, and kudos to your DH who sounds like a really thoughtful, loving man.

He really is. He offered to come and help but TBH with 2 kids if wouldn’t be worth it and he’d end up going to find things to do with them rendering his help rather pointless.

When I said I was gonna stay at my aunty’s he immediately said “don’t do that find a lovely hotel and just spend the money you deserve something nice”. Neither of us get many opportunities to be away from the madness of family life!

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/01/2023 12:46

rookiemere · 14/01/2023 12:35

I also remember when we got the news my uncle had died, heart attack whilst climbing a hill on holiday with his younger second DW.

I thought it was a great way to go and when it's my turn, I would want it to happen suddenly on holiday after a life well enjoyed, but my DM was very questioning on the causes and how sudden it was and was there going to be an autopsy so clearly she didn't feel the same way about it.

You do seem to have a tendency to be direct - which I normally think is a good thing- but on this occasion when you're there I'd try to think about what people what to hear and have some stock platitudes ready for use.

I am very direct, always have been, DH is too and I do sometimes forget that others aren’t always - my mum is the other way, very sensitive and skirts around issues or doesn’t say what she means and expects us to decode it. It’s not easy

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Bestcatmum · 14/01/2023 12:47

I'd stay in the hotel. I do everytime I go and visit my parents because their house is as hot as the surface of the sun and I can't stand it.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 14/01/2023 12:48

Not sure why you bothered posting you
obviously have no intention of changing your plans.