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to really and truly wish death on this person?

206 replies

HarderToKidnap · 02/04/2010 17:29

If I had a magic wand I would wave it and wish the most awful death I could think of on the person that kicked to death my neighbours two year old Jack Russell yesterday. He ran off through the bushes, my neighbour followed and in the couple of miuntes the dog was out of sight he was kicked/bludgeoned to death. Police have been informed but are not hopeful.

Honestly, some people should just die.

OP posts:
junglist1 · 02/04/2010 21:30

The authorities don't investigate so these scum get away with it. In my area both the police and the RSPCA are passing the buck to each other. If you put a dog through a window the police press for charges of criminal damage not animal abuse.
Someone needs to take the side of defenceless animals. Sitting back is not civilised.

rainbowinthesky · 02/04/2010 21:35

I would rather resources went into crime involving people being hurt. It's a horrible thing true and I have 2 dogs but I cant join the baying for blood.

antoinettechigur · 02/04/2010 21:35

YABU and frankly sound a bit nuts. Re-read your OP. "to wish the most awful death I could think of on the person".

Very sad about the little dog, but there's a lot of sense in the saying "an eye for an eye makes the world blind".

Assuming all the people talking about their love for animals and hatred of those who would hurt them are vegans

junglist1 · 02/04/2010 21:37

Well that's why animals are beaten and abused all the time, because they can't speak they are treated as mere objects. They feel pain and fear, and I'd step in no matter what.

junglist1 · 02/04/2010 21:38

I'm vegetarian but how does eating meat equate to kicking an animal to death????
I'm going, this thread is a disgrace

antoinettechigur · 02/04/2010 21:40

So you would wish painful death on someone who cruelly killed an animal? It is not the only option for punishment and such extremity makes people sound like they are out of touch with reality.

ChippingIn · 02/04/2010 21:40

I have not read all the thread - I read the first few posts and decided I couldn't read more.

OP - YANBU.

(Antoinettechigur - I'm vegetarian, I was vegan, but I'm a little lapsed in that I do occasionally eat a little (vegetarian) cheese & I eat chocolate. However, even I have to say, that comparing an animal killed in an abatoir and an animal viciously kicked to death are not the same thing.)

antoinettechigur · 02/04/2010 21:41

agree the thread is a discgrace though

antoinettechigur · 02/04/2010 21:43

chippingin, I am not making that comparison. Clearly there is a great difference. It is just a lot of posters are making a show of their love for animals and general outrage that anyone would ever hurt an animal. If they aren't vegan that seems a bit hypocritical to me.

junglist1 · 02/04/2010 21:43

Well the reality is getting away with it or a poxy £50 fine at best. And do you know why? Because nobody cares about animals getting beaten, so it's not viewed as a serious matter.

rainbowinthesky · 02/04/2010 21:44

Noone has said here they dont care about animals. It doesnt mean they would wish a human to have an awful death because they hurt one.

antoinettechigur · 02/04/2010 21:45

Agree rainbow.

junglist1 · 02/04/2010 21:45

I can't believe people are talking about the rights of animal murderers.

rainbowinthesky · 02/04/2010 21:46

Everyone has human rights. It's called a civilised society.

junglist1 · 02/04/2010 21:48

Whoever did this is lower than an animal. Whether they can speak or not. Not dangerous dogs who were attacking anyone, but a spaniel and a Jack Russell.
If people don't defend innocents they are not civilised.

rainbowinthesky · 02/04/2010 21:59

THere are more ways to defend innocents than the death penalty for hurting a dog.

junglist1 · 02/04/2010 22:05

If I'd have caught on the man on the towpath I would have fought him to get him to stop. No question. I would no way ignore a dog screaming in agony. If that makes me uncivilsed, I'll accept that label. In fact my knuckles are sore from being dragged on the ground.
Vallhala where are you

Rockbird · 02/04/2010 22:16

Hysterical. Rewind a few weeks and re-read all the posts about child murderers who should be rehabilitated and how can we possibly condone any sort of revenge on them. And some of you would want someone hanged, drawn and quartered for killing a dog. That'd be funny if it wasn't so bloody stupid.

junglist1 · 02/04/2010 22:20

I wouldn't kill, just beat up which is OK if it would save the animal. There's no argument there, I've decided. See how civilised I'm being?

ChippingIn · 02/04/2010 22:27

Rainbowinthesky - yes, everyone does have 'human rights' - sometimes they choose to forfeit that right. The dog was not 'hurt' it was kicked to death.

Junglist1 - 'If people don't defend inncocents they are not civilised' exactly.

The only reason I am not all for capital punishment is that I would be worried about the police/legal system getting the wrong person. Murderers, paedophiles, rapists etc have chosen to forego their 'human rights' when they took away someone else's human rights - they should stay in jail, in a cold, hard, cell, with basic nutritional needs met and nothing to do - until they can prove their innocence or die there. For this I make NO apologies.

neanderthaljunglist · 02/04/2010 22:28

Oh goody someone agrees with me

rainbowinthesky · 02/04/2010 22:29

No, I disagree. If someone has kicked a dog that does not mean they forego their human rights.

rainbowinthesky · 02/04/2010 22:29

Jack Russells are quite nippy as well.

neanderthaljunglist · 02/04/2010 22:31

Kicking a dog to death is different. Not that kicking is acceptable.

rainbowinthesky · 02/04/2010 22:33

Noone actually knows if the dog was kicked to death and how many kicks it was...

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