To Wonder what this woman is thinking??

[TheLadyEvenstar]

right before i go any further please read this bit first.
I do NOT have a problem with mix race relationships but i do think this WOMAN takes it to the limit.

she has

dd1 white english
ds1 white irish
dd2 white irish
dd3 white irish
dd4 half turkish
dd5 half indian
ds2 half indian
dd6 white english
ds3 half somalian

is now pg again has 5 grand children all of which are living in her home. she has never worked and always seems to find non working husbands/partners. They have 2 houses knocked into one, and its all paid for by council!

sorry just having a moan

saintmaybe I totally agree that attention is diverted from the fatcats by blaming families on income support etc. Very good point.

I have a problem with people on income support or other benefits not making any effort to work IF THEY CAN. I hate working but I do it to pay my own way and have some independence in my life and to support a society that protects the vunerable. I do object to people taking the piss with that.

Bizarre OP. What are you disgusted and outraged about? I don't understand.

imaynotbeperfectbutimokmummy I really do think it is important, as especially in the UK cultures seem to be increasingly diluted and lost with the rise of multicultural families. I also think it is important to the individual in their sense of self and where they come from. I can see your point though, that it might not be important to everyone though, and maybe you are right and it's not something to judge in others.

By ChopsTheDuck on Wed 22-Jul-09 10:21:59
the op is not being bloody racist. I am in a mixed race relationship and I don't find anythign racially offensive in what she is saying.

Well, there you go. I am in a mixed raced marriage and I did find the OP both offensive and racist. Chops, just because you do not believe the OP was racist does not make it so.

OP, if you had opened your post without stating the race of your friend's children and without saying that "I do NOT have a problem with mix race relationships but i do think this WOMAN takes it to the limit", then I think you would have had a little more sympathy on here. The number of children she has (and perhaps the number of different fathers they have) may well be relevant. The race of those children is not.

I can't quite get my "white Irish" head past the "I'm not a racist but..." part of this particular tirade, I'm afraid.

I don't understand why some are 'half-something', and others are either 'white english' or 'white irish'. Because at least one of those, if we are distinguishing between white english and white irish, would also be half, no? Anyway...

Chops - What on earth are you talking about? 'Cultures being diluted'. One step away from Hitler talk, mate.

And does it matter less if a woman has lots of kids with different men if they are all white? FGS, what absolute shittery.

I can't quite get my head

"as especially in the UK cultures seem to be increasingly diluted and lost with the rise of multicultural families. "

Not sure if OP is racist, jealous, bonkers - or perhaps all of them?

"I do NOT have a problem with mix race relationships but i do think this WOMAN takes it to the limit. "

So there's a limit to mix race (sic) relationships?

What is it?

I must say that this is an enjoyable, and welcome, variation on the "many children, multiple fathers" tune that has become so familar.

10 kids, thats bonkers! I struggle to meet the demands of one. I do have admiration for these people who have loads of kids, they must have an extra dose of patience and selflessness (perhaps this woman got my share?)
I do think its beyond crap to have all these different fathers though, it means these children have had so many men traipse in and out of their lives and their home.
Hmm, maybe she's not so selfless after all?

lol @ hitler reference, prob didn't phrase that very well. I meant individuals losing their own cultural identity, not cultures as a whole.

I'm goign to step away fromt his thread now before I dig myself an even bigger hole!

Welll I am not jealous, Bonkers or racist. I do feel very sorry for the children involved there are 5 different cultures in one household, now with the younger ones being brought up by yet another man. One does wonder how long she will stay with this one because it is her way (so it seems) to have 1-3 children with a man and then leave him.

She cannot teach each child about their culture it is impossible, she was not in the relationships long enough to learn enough.

It makes no odds what I say i have been branded as racist because I voiced my opnion. I do not think it is fair on the children involved to have an indian, turkish, somalian sibling and the children are the ones who suffer at school. she has told me this in the past.

She is making a Rainbow tribe

You would do well do follow Chops' example and step away before you dig yourself in deeper OP...

TheLadyEvenstar you wouldn't be very happy in my family then. We have an array of different cultures and races (from red headed Irish all the way through to Chinese, traveling via the Middle East, Russia and the Indian sub-continent, then there is my newest Nephew-in-law who is an indigenous Australian) all mixed up together, a couple of overseas adoptions thrown into the mix has really made us a United Nations.

We are posh though so that probably makes it alright for most people I reckon. Not seeing how it is unfair on a child to have siblings of a different race?

My gran had 11 children of different colours. And I know for certain that many of her neighbours felt the same about her.

If children are having problems in school because there's a mix of cultures in the family then prejudiced attitudes need to change, it's not the fault of the prejudiced against. If my 2 were picked on for being half Turkish I'd raise hell, luckily I live in a very multicultural part of London.

maybe I'm glossing over the cultural thing here, but I fail to see the enormous big deal.

first four kids white. right, half-turkish. well fgs, that's white too isn't it?! and then two half indian kids - ok, brown hair and brown eyes. I can't believe that it's really going to catch people's eyes as though the family is some sort of travelling circus.

Obviously she should tell them about their Dads and if their Dads are around they can talk about Ireland/Turkey/India

If the Dads in question arent' around then it probably wouldn't be easy for her.

The fallenmadonna, my children are white half-english-half-irish!!

do we have that category!? although, their dad is half venzeulan-half-english, so really my children, if I stop to think of it are actually half-irish-quarter-english- quarter-venezuelan and they look spanish. I think I need to lie down with a cup of tea now. I feel tired.

Blooming heck, my DD is a mix of english, polish, indian and somalian. Am I nearing the limit? Shucks.