it's not a tiny minority is it

[noddyington]

I do not know any women who have not had something bad or intimidating happen to them in their lifetime. Whether that be cat calling, followed, talked down to, pushed out of spaces, pushed over for promotion, assaulted, stalked, raped or murdered.

I do not know any women who have not changed their behaviour to try and keep themselves safe. It might be walking with keys between their fingers, getting a taxi when they'd rather walk, covering their drink when they are at a bar, not responding when a guy intimidates/heckles at them because it's safer, run or jog in groups, don't wear headphones walking late a night.........

AIBU to say that it's not a tiny minority of men is it?

No, I think it's a sizeable number of men out there we have to potentially worry about. And we never quite know whom, that's the problem.

Why though? Why do men hate women so much.

I think it's becuase a lot of men - perhaps subsconciously - think women are worth less than men. They simply do not consider that women are entitled to the same levels of privilege, safety and agency that men are. This is why they feel they have a right to impose themselves on women. It's not even "just" the violent or sexual crime etc, it's day to day - pushing, interupting, just accepting inequality for women, casual sexism, it's the whole lot.

Because at a push we can always do what they can do, but they couldn't do what we can do and deep down they know that.
Women work on oil rigs, firefight, go to war , build things etc.

I don’t think they do.

How can they not.

Surely to intimidate purely because they are men and we are women is hating people. Bullying at best

Nearly half of all women experience some form of sexual violence from men in their lifetime. How can that be hateful

if you think it's a tiny minority please explain how you came to that conculsion

That's like the comments about people from certain religions or about immigrants; no one is denying some people do things, but blame the individuals, not groups. Yes, some women (definitely not all!) have been hurt by men, but many have been hurt by women too, but that isn't taken as seriously by many. Victims of women can be scared to report it.
Just like when someone is attacked by a dog, don't blame all dog ownerss-and don't blame all men-or all women!-because some people assault you. Having a go at the whole group is only going to upset decent men, and the women who love them.

But those are not actual statistics.

Very occasionally women are hurt by women but the absolute vast majority statistics show that men are the issue for women and other men.

I think it's most men and I think Testosterone is at the root of it.

I think it causes Men to be occupied with Sex far, far more than Women do.

It also increases their rage and propensity to violence.

It was needed in terms of human evolution as hunters and warriors. Now its redundant and counterproductive.

If Men struggle to control their base impulses perhaps they could be medicated to restrain the effects of Testosterone on their behaviours.

I don't think I've yet to meet a woman who can't think of at least one example of being the victim of sexism/ misoginy. It doens't have to be violence of physical hurt. The issue here is it's SO prevalent. So yes it's not ALL men, but it's a pretty good portion of them!

facts you will probably ignore

England and Wales, 91.3% of defendants in domestic abuse prosecutions were male

According to Ministry of Justice data for England and Wales, TV licence evasion is the most common overall offence for which women are prosecuted (accounting for a large share of summary motoring/non-motoring summary offences), while theft from shops(shoplifting) is the most common indictable (more serious) offence committed by women.

In England and Wales, violence against the person (such as common assault, ABH, and GBH) is the most common offence group for which men are prosecuted and sentenced,

No.
You're right.
I'd say it's a vast majority.

I’m sorry men in your life are like that. That’s sad.

I kind of agree with you.

But men also commit much higher rates of stalking and computer based crime which I presume has nothing to do with testosterone and more to do with control.

I mean rape isn't about sex it's about control. testosterone can't account for that can it?

The men in the world are like that, stats show that, but I think you must choose to ignore that.

Not in my world.

I normally try to stick up for men (good men) as I have a dp, 2 sons, brothers, a father and male friends and colleagues who are all great guys. However you are not wrong i don't know any women who haven't been inappropriately touched by a male at somepoint in there lives i know I have multiple times.

So, are you saying it doesn't exist because it's not in your very small part of the world.

Tell that to women who have been raped and assaulted.
20% of women.
Then there's the stalking
The heckling
the domestic abuse.

In the UK, a woman is killed by a man on average every three days

Roughly 1 in 3 women globally (about 31.6% to 33%) experience physical and/or sexual intimate partner violence or non-partner sexual violence in their lifetime, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

I'm sure you are not able to see those facts and square them with your life though so in your world they don't actually happen

When have I said they don’t happen?

"I’m sorry men in your life are like that. That’s sad."
@Coulditbesam

Where did I say that the men in my life were like that?

Not my world

really?

what world does this not happen in? Behind closed doors perhaps rather than in full public view

pretty sure you will know people who don’t talk about it but it has happened

it cuts across every class, every demographic

These are some of the most unhelpful POV and they always crop up in discussions like these 🫣 comparing this to racism, xenophobia, Islamophobia etc.
Exhausting.

Hang on a moment. Those stats are the proportion of violent offenders who are men. You're talking about the proportion of men that are violent offenders. The stats don't back up the thread.