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To not want to be responsible for SC as adults?

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EwaZB · Yesterday 13:28

Boyfriend and I have been together for four years. I have DD18 and DS24. He has DSDs16 (twins) and DSS17. The plan has always been to move in together when DSDs are 18, and he’s started sending links to houses.

The thing is… Increasingly it looks like none of his children will fly the nest in a traditional sense any time soon. My son is living independently and my daughter moves out for university next summer.

I would love to live with my boyfriend, but not in a houseshare with three of his adult children. AIBU to scrap the plan?

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EwaZB · Yesterday 16:14

MerryAquaKoala · Yesterday 16:02

Well I guess it depends on one's PoV. The kids never asked to be born, nor for their parents to divorce, nor to live with a (to them at first) strange adult. But shit happens and kids come last it seems always. One can only hope the strange (to them at first) adult isn't selfish and understands the afore mentioned facts - so yes lives on her own prioritising herself or compromises and lives with the dad and his 18yr old kids.

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We deliberately didn’t blend families because we thought it would be better for the children to continue to live separately during their exam years. We both considered it more important that they had stable homes without stepparents or stepsiblings than for us to live together. DSC have had many issues with their stepdad (from what I know, he’s not awful, it’s just hard parenting someone else’s teenagers).

It was 100% the right choice. But we’d both expected to be able to prioritise ourselves and our relationship once the children grew up.

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Additup · Yesterday 16:15

croisette · Yesterday 16:00

It’s been the opposite for most young adults I know. We live in a big city and many kids go to uni outside of it but making their careers offers more opportunities here than anywhere else, but rents are higher. So most come back for at least a while, while they save for their own place. They still have their freedom if the parents are reasonable people!

That's fair enough as long as the young adults are also reasonable people to live with and not cooking at 2am, leaving the house a total mess and generally treating it like a student house as has happened to some I know.

Wowtongforj · Yesterday 16:16

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MajorProcrastination · Yesterday 16:17

EwaZB · Yesterday 15:50

Does your stepdaughter still have a room at your house too?

They live between their mum and dad’s. Legally she has majority care, in recent years it was more like 50/50, more recently it varies a lot and they can each spend weeks at different places depending on who’s fallen out with whom. They have a stepdad at their mum’s who none of them are particularly keen on, and I believe the feeling is mutual, so I wouldn’t be surprised if their dad’s becomes “main home” once they’re over 18.

No because we live in a 3 bed terrace and we always had the boys sharing and her having her own room. A couple of years ago she suggested that one of the boys has her room as they were getting older and she wasn't sleeping over at ours regularly. We didn't rush it, she still has her belongings in that room and if she does sleep over, the brother who has that room sleeps in another room.

As a child she stayed with us midweek and weekends, 2 or 3 nights a week, as she got older she was going out with mates on the weekend or working then going out, and the more independent she got the more she chose to stay at her mums (as it was closer to work and college and pubs and town and her friends).

We're not in the middle of nowhere but we're in a different town and we're further away from the city.

If she'd not suggested the change, the boys would still be sharing. They've got other spaces in the house for them to have friends over to (a garage with gaming and sofa bed and stuff). We'd also looked at a loft conversion but we had to use that money for something else house related and essential not aesthetic.

Wowtongforj · Yesterday 16:18

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EwaZB · Yesterday 16:18

seanconneryseyebrow · Yesterday 15:55

Oh I hear you. I thought the same, and then I realised he will not have anythign like the pension I will, and like you I want to travel and do lovely things, and retire early (Im 52). He wants that too and will be able to contribute but it wont be 50/50. So I will have to sub him. It was something I really wrestled with. Ultimately I decided it was worth it for everything else he brings to the table.

Only you know though. Are you madly in love?

A hard question to answer!

We are in love, but I’m conscious we’re only “dating” and if I had to live with his children indefinitely, or I had to sacrifice my retirement plans because of them, the shine would be tarnished.

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BunkBedsArePeopleShelves · Yesterday 16:21

EwaZB · Yesterday 13:36

I think it’s fairly unlikely, but both of my children would have a home with me if they ever wanted to return. I am in a fortunate position and can financially support them through uni and beyond.

It’s become clear that boyfriend’s children are unlikely to go into higher education or higher paid careers. I honestly don’t think they could afford to move out, nor could their parents help to pay for it.

So you want your children to always have a home with you, but not his to have a home with him?

Why are you looking at houses anyway when none of his are adults?

KindlySurfiingPlatypus · Yesterday 16:22

ilovepixie · Yesterday 13:47

So your children will always be welcome in your joint home , but your partners children won’t be you sound delightful and a bit of a snob. If I was your partner I’d run now.

saying "you'll always be welcome here" to an adult offspring who has been working hard, has got qualifications and a career, and who has their own expectations for being independent and self-reliant but who nevertheless may during the course of 50 years have some kind of cataclysmic event e.g divorce/subsidence/victim of fraud that might lead to them needing to shelter in the parental home in the short term is a TOTALLY different proposition to saying "you'll always be welcome here" to an adult offspring who has no plans to attempt to strive for independence and no expectations of earning enough to achieve self-sufficiency any time in the foreseeable future. There cannot be the same rules for the two sets of adult offspring when their situations are so different.

EwaZB · Yesterday 16:26

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No, it’s not been two years of really serious problems. It’s only really become apparent (to me) that there’s a problem in the last six months, when DSS failed his course and SDDs failed their mocks. DSS was always going to take a more technical route (but he was still very diligent until last year), and SDDs were originally predicted the same grades as my daughter.

My boyfriend and I don’t talk about our kids’ educations that often! I do think he has his head in the sand.

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Additup · Yesterday 16:26

KindlySurfiingPlatypus · Yesterday 16:22

saying "you'll always be welcome here" to an adult offspring who has been working hard, has got qualifications and a career, and who has their own expectations for being independent and self-reliant but who nevertheless may during the course of 50 years have some kind of cataclysmic event e.g divorce/subsidence/victim of fraud that might lead to them needing to shelter in the parental home in the short term is a TOTALLY different proposition to saying "you'll always be welcome here" to an adult offspring who has no plans to attempt to strive for independence and no expectations of earning enough to achieve self-sufficiency any time in the foreseeable future. There cannot be the same rules for the two sets of adult offspring when their situations are so different.

This is very true, It's very easy to offer 'you'll always be welcome' when you know your children would rather be independent and would only take you up on your offer on pain of death. It's a bit different when you make the same offer to an adult child who is going to spend the next 30 years malingering round your house like a bad smell.

EwaZB · Yesterday 16:26

KindlySurfiingPlatypus · Yesterday 16:22

saying "you'll always be welcome here" to an adult offspring who has been working hard, has got qualifications and a career, and who has their own expectations for being independent and self-reliant but who nevertheless may during the course of 50 years have some kind of cataclysmic event e.g divorce/subsidence/victim of fraud that might lead to them needing to shelter in the parental home in the short term is a TOTALLY different proposition to saying "you'll always be welcome here" to an adult offspring who has no plans to attempt to strive for independence and no expectations of earning enough to achieve self-sufficiency any time in the foreseeable future. There cannot be the same rules for the two sets of adult offspring when their situations are so different.

Thank you, this sums up how I feel.

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croisette · Yesterday 16:27

It does sound a bit like you can’t wait to turf out his 16 year olds because they don’t fit in with your plan. I agree with others, it’s not the time now to move in while his kids are young

seanconneryseyebrow · Yesterday 16:28

BunkBedsArePeopleShelves · Yesterday 16:21

So you want your children to always have a home with you, but not his to have a home with him?

Why are you looking at houses anyway when none of his are adults?

I have to admit - rightly or wrongly - thats my set up. My DP has two kids (10 and 12) who visit us every Sunday. I have all adult children (20s). My DP came to live with me as he was renting, and I own my place.

My children could always come live with me, anytime, if they needed to. Its possible I guess, and life sometimes means you need help. So yeh, although it woudl be a struggle I would welcome them with open arms.

I wouldn't be thrilled at the idea of his kids living with us though if that ever became a possibility. Unlikely for either situation to come up, but you never know. I think that is the benefit I have that it is technically my house. I really would reconsider things if they potentially want to live with him. And likewise he might if it were mine too!

Wowtongforj · Yesterday 16:30

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seanconneryseyebrow · Yesterday 16:31

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CHrist what a leap and dripping in judgement.

EwaZB · Yesterday 16:31

seanconneryseyebrow · Yesterday 16:28

I have to admit - rightly or wrongly - thats my set up. My DP has two kids (10 and 12) who visit us every Sunday. I have all adult children (20s). My DP came to live with me as he was renting, and I own my place.

My children could always come live with me, anytime, if they needed to. Its possible I guess, and life sometimes means you need help. So yeh, although it woudl be a struggle I would welcome them with open arms.

I wouldn't be thrilled at the idea of his kids living with us though if that ever became a possibility. Unlikely for either situation to come up, but you never know. I think that is the benefit I have that it is technically my house. I really would reconsider things if they potentially want to live with him. And likewise he might if it were mine too!

I feel the same. These aren’t really my stepchildren, I’ve never lived with them or had any involvement in their upbringing, and they would be, to all intents and purposes, unrelated adults moving into my home that I’d be expected to subsidise and look after. It’s just not going to happen. I like them and want the best for them, but not to my own or my children’s detriment.

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Starlight7080 · Yesterday 16:31

He should be more focused on his children and less on making them feel like he doesnt want to live with them past the age of 18. What a useless father.
Posts like this make me so thankful my dh is such a good dad and would never put his needs above our teens.
You will definitely regret moving in together.
How old are you both? You speak about retirement alot .

Wowtongforj · Yesterday 16:32

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bababamama · Yesterday 16:37

Are you willing to wait 8-10 years because that is realistically the earliest you can expect all the dc, yours and his to be independent. The last of ours moved out at 24 and apparently we are the lucky ones, most my friends are still trying to coax dc into their own houses at 27/28! University is only 7 months of the year too, I think you were unrealistic to expect your dc not to be with you mostly too.

tempester28 · Yesterday 16:42

I think you are being a bit unrealistic sorry! I thought mine had left and I was happy living on my own. Then bang it went wrong for them both and they were back - it is clear to me now that it is not easy for young adults to leave home and I have revised my vision of the near future.

if you both have properties to sell why not keep one and buy a small flat/holiday/weekend bolt hole for you both.

EwaZB · Yesterday 16:43

bababamama · Yesterday 16:37

Are you willing to wait 8-10 years because that is realistically the earliest you can expect all the dc, yours and his to be independent. The last of ours moved out at 24 and apparently we are the lucky ones, most my friends are still trying to coax dc into their own houses at 27/28! University is only 7 months of the year too, I think you were unrealistic to expect your dc not to be with you mostly too.

In five years, I’m going to be in a position where I can downsize and go part-time, if not retire entirely. My DC will be 23-29 and I would have money saved for their house deposits. The equity release, alongside private pensions, would give me a good quality of life.

Would I be willing to delay all of that for another five years? I don’t know. I’d be able to build up more money, but I know many people who’ve died in their 60s, and I don’t want to regret it, especially if his children never reach the point of independence.

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Grammarnut · Yesterday 16:44

Leopardspota · Yesterday 13:35

It’s not normal anymore to fully leave home at 18. Even if going to uni you’re still home for big chunks of the year. I’m a millennial and most friends were home for at least a year or two after uni too. All were moved out by 28ish, some had moved out and back a few times.

Even when at uni your domicile is your family home, not wherever you live in term time.

EwaZB · Yesterday 16:44

tempester28 · Yesterday 16:42

I think you are being a bit unrealistic sorry! I thought mine had left and I was happy living on my own. Then bang it went wrong for them both and they were back - it is clear to me now that it is not easy for young adults to leave home and I have revised my vision of the near future.

if you both have properties to sell why not keep one and buy a small flat/holiday/weekend bolt hole for you both.

Do you mean keep his house for his children to live in, whilst I buy a small flat, and we both enjoy the proceeds of me downsizing? I don’t see how that’s fair.

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EwaZB · Yesterday 16:45

Grammarnut · Yesterday 16:44

Even when at uni your domicile is your family home, not wherever you live in term time.

Only if you’re in halls, which is often only for first year.

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