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MIL Christmas dilemma – AIBU to not want DH spending most of Christmas Day driving?

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Foxy200 · Yesterday 22:47

I’m really struggling with this and could do with some outside opinions.
MIL is in her 80s, lives about two hours away, doesn’t drive and has been on her own since FIL died 15 years ago. DH is an only child, so realistically we are the only family she has at Christmas.
She is extremely introverted and has always found staying anywhere other than her own home very difficult. She doesn’t particularly like coming to ours and can only really cope with being around people for a couple of hours.
Historically, when she comes for Christmas, she wants DH to collect her late on Christmas Eve and take her home first thing on Boxing Day. With the driving there and back twice, DH ends up spending about five hours of Christmas on the road.
This year my parents are coming to us. MIL has never spent Christmas with us when they are here. There’s no falling out and she doesn’t dislike them — she just finds having other people around very difficult — so I strongly suspect she will decide to stay at home.
Normally I would think that was entirely her choice.
The complication is that when she has stayed at home in previous years, she sometimes hasn’t answered the phone all day and has even unplugged it. DH then becomes so worried that he drives two hours there to check she is OK and two hours back. On the occasions this has happened, she has been absolutely fine.
However, this year we are also concerned that she may be developing dementia and are waiting for an assessment. She is increasingly forgetful and there have been occasions when she hasn’t remembered who we are. So I completely understand why DH is worried about leaving her alone.
DH is now suggesting that if she won't come to us, he drives up on Christmas Day, spends a couple of hours with her and drives home. Realistically he could be gone for six or seven hours.
And this is where I’m struggling.
I don't want to be horrible about an elderly woman potentially developing dementia, and if this were my mum I know I would be worried too. But I also don't think the answer can be that DH spends a huge chunk of every Christmas driving around the country.
She is invited to ours. We genuinely want her to come and would make her welcome. She could have a quiet room to retreat to and wouldn't be expected to sit socialising all day. But if she decides she would rather stay at home, should DH then miss most of Christmas Day to go to her?
The other thing I'm struggling with is that even if DH agrees not to go, I'm not sure how any of us actually enjoy Christmas.
My parents will be here, but if MIL is at home alone and not answering the phone, DH will spend the day worrying about whether she's OK. I'll know he's worrying and I'll feel guilty trying to enjoy myself with my parents while he's anxious about his mum. We'll potentially spend Christmas Day waiting to see whether she answers the phone and wondering whether DH is going to end up getting in the car anyway.
So it feels as though whatever we do, Christmas ends up revolving around MIL.
There is also some history that probably affects how I feel about this. DH had a very difficult childhood and left home at 16. From 16 until he met me at 29, MIL essentially left him to spend Christmases without her. I have to admit I find it hard not to feel some resentment that our family Christmases now revolve around making sure she isn't alone when she didn't seem to have the same concern about him when he was young.
At the same time, she's his mum. She's elderly, she's alone and she may have dementia. I absolutely don't want DH sitting at home worrying that something has happened to her, or feeling terrible if he doesn't go. And if this were my own mum, I suspect I'd feel exactly as he does.
We also have an 11-year-old son, and I feel quite sad at the thought of his dad disappearing for most of Christmas Day. There aren't that many childhood Christmases left.
I'm starting to think the real issue is that we need some way of knowing MIL is safe without DH having to drive four hours every time she doesn't answer her phone. If she is becoming unsafe to be left alone, then obviously this is much bigger than Christmas and we need a proper plan for her care.
But in the meantime I don't know what the answer is.
If she comes to us, she will be unhappy because my parents are here and she finds being around people overwhelming.
If she stays at home, DH will worry about her.
If DH goes to see her, he misses most of Christmas with us and our son.
And if he stays home but spends the whole day worrying about her, I'm not sure any of us will enjoy Christmas anyway.
AIBU to feel that we can't keep doing this every Christmas? And what would you actually do in our situation?

OP posts:
sittingonabeach · Yesterday 23:01

My DM has cognitive issues, she quite often unplugs the phone.

RampantIvy · Yesterday 23:01

sittingonabeach · Yesterday 22:58

If she has got to the stage where she doesn’t know who you are she has probably got to the stage where she would struggle being anywhere but her home.

And maybe she needs carers going in every day to check on her.

onthespot42 · Yesterday 23:03

People with developing dementia ( an umbrella term ) are not deliberately being manipulative or difficult although it may seems like it ! Their executive functioning and decision making skills are slowly almost imperceptibly shutting down . At 85 - like a previous poster said the issue is dementia care . Forget nanny cams and alarms and what not ( been there - got the T-shirt ) it’s probably time to look at home care visits at this stage in the game & someone checking on her a least once a day . Also hosting someone with dementia out of their usual environment at Christmas is a disaster . Overwhelm and confusion - been there ! Unfortunately all this costs money and the person rarely accepts help or acknowledges they have dementia because it’s a paradox ! I’m sorry this is happening to you . The elderly forum here is a good place to get and advice

sittingonabeach · Yesterday 23:03

RampantIvy · Yesterday 23:01

And maybe she needs carers going in every day to check on her.

Absolutely

@Foxy200 is she remembering to eat and more importantly to drink?

Will she know it is Christmas Day?

maryberryslayers · Yesterday 23:04

Why does he worry about her safety on Christmas Day more than any other or does she only not answer the phone on Christmas Day?

itstoughatthetop · Yesterday 23:04

@Foxy200 I would suggest he spends Christmas Eve day at MILs and drives home that evening. Spend Christmas Day at home with you all and if he feels like he’d like to go back on Boxing Day then that should be fine too.

HeddaGarbled · Yesterday 23:07

This is what we did with my mum when she was too disabled to be anywhere except her own home:

We celebrated our own family Christmas on Boxing Day with the dinner and presents and everything.

On Christmas Day, we all went to her house with her presents and a (really nice) buffet lunch. We didn’t stay late and were home in time for drinks and dinner.

I can’t say we didn’t enjoy getting back in sync with the rest of the country once she moved into a nursing home, but it worked fine for a few years.

Melancholyflower · Yesterday 23:07

I don't understand why the concern for her only relates to Christmas Day. Are you saying that on other days she answers the phone, but on Christmas Day she will turn it off and not answer?

Ilovelurchers · Yesterday 23:09

If she is already at the stage of sometimes not knowing who you are, this is sadly a lot bigger than Christmas - how is she coping day to day, with this level of memory impairment? Does she have support coming in? Is she managing generally, and if so how?

You have my every sympathy - my lovely dad, who died earlier this year, had dementia for the last 10 years of his life. My mom was his main carers, but I also relocated to be able to support him/them. It's very, very hard. Within a year or two of becoming ill, he literally could not have survived if he had lived alone (would not have remembered to eat, etc).

I understand you are stressing about Xmas as sometimes it's easier to focus on little details when a problem is scary and huge. But some kind of drastic change is on the horizon. Either local care for her will need to be sourced, or you or she will need to relocate. I am sorry, I know such change is difficult and scary. It's a very cruel disease.

As for Xmas - I urge you to encourage your DH to do what he needs to to spend time with her. It may be one of the last Xmases he ever gets with her. I would crawl over broken glass to have another Xmas with my darling dad.

concertinacornflake · Yesterday 23:10

Foxy200 · Yesterday 23:00

The dementia has all come about very suddenly. We've made massive progress in terms of getting assessment and putting some things in place over the last month, but it's all very new and MIL is not accepting that there is any issue. She is functioning but is very forgetful and vulnerable. We have bought camera's but there was no way she would accept them going up. I think by xmas they will be in place, but just trying to approach is gently with her as she is very stubborn.

Then just support your DH this year, it's a lot to take in. Your DS will understand his dad is caring for his grandmother.

Catza · Yesterday 23:11

I am afraid I also can't exactly see why Christmas day is any different than a random Thursday afternoon in terms of getting in touch with MIL. Presumably, your husband is not driving there daily to check on her. So how do you normally keep in touch?
If she deliberately doesn't pick up her phone on this one specific day of the year then assume she wants to be left alone for whatever reason. Or assume she does it so that her son drops everything to drive over which is something I would discourage him from doing.
She must have neighbours your son can ask to check on her if he can't get through. Call the police and ask for the welfare check if not. You definitely have options. Your husband just chooses not to explore them for some reason.

concertinacornflake · Yesterday 23:11

Brokentoes85 · Yesterday 22:57

And forget the rest of his familys christmas?

His mum has worsened suddenly. He's not forgetting anyone's Christmas.

pizzaHeart · Yesterday 23:12

canklesmctacotits · Yesterday 22:52

I think I would be insisting that she come to you (you can make things as quiet/distanced as she needs, no expectations that she socialize), or that your DH put an Alexa or some sort of nanny cam in her house. She can’t hold your family hostage (not suggesting she’s trying to but that’s the net result of her actions).

This^
Does she unplug her phone on other days by the way?

sittingonabeach · Yesterday 23:12

Have you got POA sorted @Foxy200

sittingonabeach · Yesterday 23:14

pizzaHeart · Yesterday 23:12

This^
Does she unplug her phone on other days by the way?

If she has dementia bringing her to a different place than her home, with people she may not recognise could be seriously upsetting for her

Lilyhatesjaz · Yesterday 23:15

I have only read original post so this may have already been suggested.
How about if DH goes to her on Christmas eve, stays the night with her and then drives home in the morning. He then knows she is ok but will still be spending most of the day with you.

comealongdobbeh · Yesterday 23:15

Does she have neighbours who check in on her, and if so, could you call them in the event she doesn’t answer her phone?

Bunnyotter1896 · Yesterday 23:15

What happens every other day? Why will it be christmas day he is either too stressed to enjoy himself or driving to see her?
I would invite her to yours and suugest dh goes christmas eve. Or/and boxing day

Supersimkin7 · Yesterday 23:16

She doesn’t recognise you - that’s a dementia problem not a Xmas AIBU.

Start by keeping her safe.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · Yesterday 23:16

Insist she comes.

Both of you or you go for her if necessary and get her into a car on christmas eve morning.so you dont piss away your christmas driving miss daisy.

She can sit in the guest room at your doing sweet FA until boxing day if she likes.

I am also very 🤨 at the phone unplugging even before the backstory highlighting a cats a better mother.

Your dh needs therapy. And lots of it.

onthespot42 · Yesterday 23:16

Foxy200 · Yesterday 23:00

The dementia has all come about very suddenly. We've made massive progress in terms of getting assessment and putting some things in place over the last month, but it's all very new and MIL is not accepting that there is any issue. She is functioning but is very forgetful and vulnerable. We have bought camera's but there was no way she would accept them going up. I think by xmas they will be in place, but just trying to approach is gently with her as she is very stubborn.

aibu is not the board op - the cockroach cafe thread is an excellent source of advice in elderly parents board . The posters there understand better your worries & frustration and can advise . At 85 - declines are never slow they take a step down all of a sudden and you are in a new hell . It’s a stressful time with no end in sight I bought up two very young children whilst my mum suffered from dementia with no family help . Christmas was a write off . I don’t have any fond memories - there was always an emergency to sort or some compromise to be made . Kindly I would not make any super firm plans yet and wait till the outcome of the assessment and then decide . The Airbnb plan was somwthing similar I did once - it kinda worked to a point . Good luck

Ilovelurchers · Yesterday 23:17

I just reread the thread and some of the posts are really upsetting. It's not at all unusual for someone with dementia to do things like turning off their phone. They are not doing it to "be manipulative'. Someone who often doesn't recognise their family, can't really be said to have to level of cognitive function it requires to "be manipulative".

And whoever suggested she should be "reprimanded" - is that really how you treat elderly, vulnerable relatives? You reprimand then? That's really quite upsetting to read, to be honest. I can't imagine ever "reprimanding" my parents - especially when they were unwell with such a scary and horrible disease.

aWeeCornishPastie · Yesterday 23:20

@DelphiniumBluebook an Airbnb 🤣 yes ok

deadbobaplace · Yesterday 23:20

You can't take her out of her home environment if she doesn't want to go. It's one day, she's never prioritised Christmas and it's her choice not to travel. Though if she's anything like my grandparents in the early stages she will be phoning a lot.

SixtySomething · Yesterday 23:22

Alwayslurkingsometimesposting · Yesterday 22:51

It sounds really manipulative that she wont answer the phone on Christmas day and even unplugs it. I feel for you, this is an awful dilemma and its no wonder you feel resentful

It seems we cannot have a MIL post without the word 'manipulative' coming up.
Come on now, there's clearly a lot going on in this situation and manipulation is not in the mix.
Next thing, someone will post that she must be made to apologise.

Oh, oh, looks like it's already happened from @Ilovelurchers post! 😱