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Strangerthings12 · 03/10/2026 11:19

I've had a few long-term, short-term relationships, and most of the men have turned out to be absolutely vile.

I've dated all ages, from all professions, all walks of life, but they all turned out to be vile, and most of them are married now, which I simply cannot wrap my head around.

One started to become abusive and was criticizing my size, despite the fact that I was a size 10 and very fit and healthy. He also turned out to be a deeply racist person. Another used to hide food from me in the kitchen - again I was size 10 🤷‍♀️ (not that my size should matter).

Another one, towards the end, said that he didn't enjoy my aura, which I still struggle to understand what it was, because I certainly hadn't changed. I’ve always been a nice and bubbly person and treat people with respect.

And the other one just ghosted on me one day.

These men have gone on to marry women and certainly havent changed, and I just don't understand what makes women marry men like this. I mean, as soon as I started seeing the problems, I left them, aside from the one who ghosted me. But now they're married, and I just can't get my head around how women settle for behaviors like this, because these men don't change.

The racist one went on to marry a much younger woman who is an immigrant. Make it make sense??

I’m not bitter, I couldn’t wait to get rid of these men as soon as these behaviours appeared.

I’m still single.

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MxCactus · 03/10/2026 22:41

I think it is a truth that men treat the women they're with differently. Whether because they've regretted past behaviour/matured or whether that's because they feel differently about the woman in question.

Case in point I know one friend of a friend who cheated on his girlfriend at every opportunity. Next girlfriend he is completely obsessed with and does everything she says, wouldn't dream of cheating on her and never has.

Of course the women you're talking about could have low standards, or the men could be treating them differently to how they treated you. You'll never know, but who cares? They're exes, not in your life anymore

PrettyLittleRose · 03/10/2026 23:09

Exactly @MxCactus The men are treating future women better because they know she is 'the one' and the previous girlfriend was not. And he is NOT going down on his knees begging any ex to get back with him when he is happy with a new woman.

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · 03/10/2026 23:58

PumpkinSeasonIsHere · 03/10/2026 11:23

The racist one went on to marry a much younger woman who is an immigrant. Make it make sense??

Just to pick out one aspect of your post, an awful lot of anti-immigration politicians seem to marry people from other countries. Farage, Trump, and Dutch politician Geert Wilders spring to mind for starters.

I don’t know what it means but presumably someone has come up with a theory!

I have a theory - they are racist when it comes to other men, who they consciously or sub-consciously see as a threat. Whether it be to their job, local resources as in schools, GP’s, hospitals, housing etc and of course indigenous women. They see these men as undeservedly TAKING from them. Women on the other hand, well more specifically, potentially available (and even more specifically young and attractive) women - are NOT a threat, and are actually desirable based purely on their sexual appeal, hence why this particular demographic usually experiences less overt racism than men and wives/mothers with young children with them. It’s so disgusting for many reasons.

SquirrelsEatingConkers · 04/10/2026 00:29

Strangerthings12 · 03/10/2026 11:28

I also appreciate women end up with men far worse than these ones! I wonder why?

I am quite privileged in that I’m independent and can support myself. I have a good network of family and friends. And I haven’t become pregnant so am fortunately not tied to any of these men.

I also simply couldn’t be with someone putting me down, making comments about my body, or my personality. I’m a good person. I’m also told I’m attractive. I know it’s not me, it’s these men.

Yet im still single 🤷‍♀️

I don't think people in general like confident people, especially ones who are sufficiently independent to walk away from crap. Most people are a bit shit IMO and they don't want to improve themselves to keep you in their life so they try to drag you down instead. Most people are alright on the surface and make good enough friends to hang out with but when it gets deeper, like romance or flatmates etc that's when the cracks start to show.

I suspect people in general just don't consider women as true equals either. I don't mean the same, but accepting that the differences between men and women doesn't inherently means one sex is better than the other.

In good men that seems to manifest in wanting to take care of you in some way, if you're seemingly too independent that scuppers that for them and I think a lot of them get insecure over it. They don't necessarily dislike you for your independence, but they want to feel safe that their partner won't leave them so someone a bit more needy or insecure herself provides that.

Bad ones will just sneer at you subconsciously because they sense the truth: you're better than them. Even though you yourself might not be thinking that, because you don't know them very well yet and haven't figured out they're a bad one, they still know it because they have access to their own minds and know deep down what shit bags they really are. Then they hate you for it.

In a woman who subconsciously doesn't consider women equal to me she's not doing what they're doing and going all out to get what she wants, instead she's bending over backwards to accommodate this or that, doubting herself and wondering if she's being unreasonable as a first response to any disagreement.

It's quite hard to find someone you're sexually attracted to, have something in common with, whose company you enjoy, want similar things in life for the medium and long term as well as the short term, live nearby, are on the same page financially (I don't necessarily mean earnings, but definitely in outlook with views regarding money) and in agreement regarding how to raise DC. These are all non-negotiable and it's quite a lot to find in one person.

I suspect a lot of people settle and make the best of whatever situation they've found with whoever they've found, just because they don't want to be alone or because they don't want to be celibate. It's a bit like finding a job where you pick something that ticks ¾ of the boxes and put up with the rest, all those bits you don't particularly like.

From my own observations, it seems like most relationships of any description (like family or friends or whatever too) only keeps going long term by at least one person putting up with being treated unfairly/like crap, occasionally. People just decide to brush stuff away rather than break contact with the person. I wonder if some people get married just to for in with societal norms and then bond with their peers over how shite it can be? I keep hearing enough about how friendless/partner-less people are to be avoided because they're surely odd.

When it comes to who to be in a relationship with, if you've got self respect there'll always be someone else out there who is more of a doormat than you are. The more of a doormat your partner is, the more you get your own way, so with a lot of people disliking compromise of any kind they'd rather have a doormat type.

Maybe it'll be different among the younger generations, they seem to be a lot more focused on self improvement and less focused on finding a partner.

Older generations, most aren't focusing on that and where they are it's women mainly who seems to be focusing on their well-being, getting over bad habits, getting away from toxic people etc to create better lives. Women are raised to think they should be doing more, being more etc. so more naturally seems to want to improve themselves. Men are mainly seeming to be focusing on their looks/job/hobbies etc when they work in improving, with it all being down to meeting someone or making themselves look more attractive when they do meet someone, they're not actually interested in raising their game as a person because they've been brought up to believe that whoever and whatever they are, they're "enough".

How many men will hit the gym when they break up, lose the excess pounds, buy some new clothes and find someone new who then ends up disappointed (if she stays) because they revert to original them once their partner is locked in practically/financially/legally. Whereas women tend to see that stuff as just the basics of maintaining yourself, they're always going on diets or doing exercise to lose a few pounds and having glow ups etc even when they're in solid committed relationships, because they're doing it for themselves not just to get a partner.

I think women could learn from men, in a lot of cases. If they went out and loved their lives how they wanted and just weren't afraid of a relationship falling apart as a result of that, maybe they'd be happier in general? Instead all I see in the world is men who do whatever they want, caring if relationships fail but often not enough to do anything about it, and women who do everything under the sun to keep a relationship of any kind intact, even a bad one. Look at the notion of "wife work" and how it's female relatives who keep family gatherings/relationships together. How many family gatherings would there be if men had to organise each one?

I'm not sure if any of my rambling helps you OP. It's late and I don't have any solid answers. There's obviously going to be exceptions to the general circumstances I've mentioned. You sound like an exception to the norm yourself, I'm not sure what you're supposed to do with that though.

inerja · 04/10/2026 00:30

The internalised misogyny on this thread… capitalism thrives on insecure obedient women who just want to be chosen… a lot clearly have settled or they wouldn’t be attacking you so much for pointing it out!

Strangerthings12 · 04/10/2026 10:10

PrettyLittleRose · 03/10/2026 23:09

Exactly @MxCactus The men are treating future women better because they know she is 'the one' and the previous girlfriend was not. And he is NOT going down on his knees begging any ex to get back with him when he is happy with a new woman.

All assumptions, we don’t know

But people don’t change normally

Abusive men - such as those who beat up people for the colour of their skin - will rarely change

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Strangerthings12 · 04/10/2026 10:10

inerja · 04/10/2026 00:30

The internalised misogyny on this thread… capitalism thrives on insecure obedient women who just want to be chosen… a lot clearly have settled or they wouldn’t be attacking you so much for pointing it out!

Thank you

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Strangerthings12 · 04/10/2026 10:11

SquirrelsEatingConkers · 04/10/2026 00:29

I don't think people in general like confident people, especially ones who are sufficiently independent to walk away from crap. Most people are a bit shit IMO and they don't want to improve themselves to keep you in their life so they try to drag you down instead. Most people are alright on the surface and make good enough friends to hang out with but when it gets deeper, like romance or flatmates etc that's when the cracks start to show.

I suspect people in general just don't consider women as true equals either. I don't mean the same, but accepting that the differences between men and women doesn't inherently means one sex is better than the other.

In good men that seems to manifest in wanting to take care of you in some way, if you're seemingly too independent that scuppers that for them and I think a lot of them get insecure over it. They don't necessarily dislike you for your independence, but they want to feel safe that their partner won't leave them so someone a bit more needy or insecure herself provides that.

Bad ones will just sneer at you subconsciously because they sense the truth: you're better than them. Even though you yourself might not be thinking that, because you don't know them very well yet and haven't figured out they're a bad one, they still know it because they have access to their own minds and know deep down what shit bags they really are. Then they hate you for it.

In a woman who subconsciously doesn't consider women equal to me she's not doing what they're doing and going all out to get what she wants, instead she's bending over backwards to accommodate this or that, doubting herself and wondering if she's being unreasonable as a first response to any disagreement.

It's quite hard to find someone you're sexually attracted to, have something in common with, whose company you enjoy, want similar things in life for the medium and long term as well as the short term, live nearby, are on the same page financially (I don't necessarily mean earnings, but definitely in outlook with views regarding money) and in agreement regarding how to raise DC. These are all non-negotiable and it's quite a lot to find in one person.

I suspect a lot of people settle and make the best of whatever situation they've found with whoever they've found, just because they don't want to be alone or because they don't want to be celibate. It's a bit like finding a job where you pick something that ticks ¾ of the boxes and put up with the rest, all those bits you don't particularly like.

From my own observations, it seems like most relationships of any description (like family or friends or whatever too) only keeps going long term by at least one person putting up with being treated unfairly/like crap, occasionally. People just decide to brush stuff away rather than break contact with the person. I wonder if some people get married just to for in with societal norms and then bond with their peers over how shite it can be? I keep hearing enough about how friendless/partner-less people are to be avoided because they're surely odd.

When it comes to who to be in a relationship with, if you've got self respect there'll always be someone else out there who is more of a doormat than you are. The more of a doormat your partner is, the more you get your own way, so with a lot of people disliking compromise of any kind they'd rather have a doormat type.

Maybe it'll be different among the younger generations, they seem to be a lot more focused on self improvement and less focused on finding a partner.

Older generations, most aren't focusing on that and where they are it's women mainly who seems to be focusing on their well-being, getting over bad habits, getting away from toxic people etc to create better lives. Women are raised to think they should be doing more, being more etc. so more naturally seems to want to improve themselves. Men are mainly seeming to be focusing on their looks/job/hobbies etc when they work in improving, with it all being down to meeting someone or making themselves look more attractive when they do meet someone, they're not actually interested in raising their game as a person because they've been brought up to believe that whoever and whatever they are, they're "enough".

How many men will hit the gym when they break up, lose the excess pounds, buy some new clothes and find someone new who then ends up disappointed (if she stays) because they revert to original them once their partner is locked in practically/financially/legally. Whereas women tend to see that stuff as just the basics of maintaining yourself, they're always going on diets or doing exercise to lose a few pounds and having glow ups etc even when they're in solid committed relationships, because they're doing it for themselves not just to get a partner.

I think women could learn from men, in a lot of cases. If they went out and loved their lives how they wanted and just weren't afraid of a relationship falling apart as a result of that, maybe they'd be happier in general? Instead all I see in the world is men who do whatever they want, caring if relationships fail but often not enough to do anything about it, and women who do everything under the sun to keep a relationship of any kind intact, even a bad one. Look at the notion of "wife work" and how it's female relatives who keep family gatherings/relationships together. How many family gatherings would there be if men had to organise each one?

I'm not sure if any of my rambling helps you OP. It's late and I don't have any solid answers. There's obviously going to be exceptions to the general circumstances I've mentioned. You sound like an exception to the norm yourself, I'm not sure what you're supposed to do with that though.

Thank you your post makes many interesting posts, I appreciate it

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Strangerthings12 · 04/10/2026 10:13

PrettyLittleRose · 03/10/2026 23:09

Exactly @MxCactus The men are treating future women better because they know she is 'the one' and the previous girlfriend was not. And he is NOT going down on his knees begging any ex to get back with him when he is happy with a new woman.

And sure - I’m totally fine with these men not seeing me as the ‘one’ - (despite suggesting marriage, saying they loved me, begging for me back months after I left) - but doesn’t make it ok for them to behave abusively because of this

Utterly bizarre logic

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PrettyLittleRose · 04/10/2026 10:18

That's very strange that these men were begging you every week (for many months after you split up,) to have them back, when they were getting married to someone else. I have known this happen to anyone - ever. Men move on when they find someone more suitable, and never look back. They are marrying another woman, they never married you. I find it extremely odd that any man would move onto another woman, be so happy with her that they are getting married, and then drop on his knees begging you to have him back. I am struggling to believe this.

Awaits the 'but I didn't want to marry THEM' comment. 🙄

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Smallestshadow · 04/10/2026 10:19

I thought I’d met a “good guy”- I purposely went out with him on the basis of him being different to the other men I dated. We were friends for years before we got together. He was intelligent, hard working, kind, reliable, did more than his fair share of the drudge work at home. I thought he’d be a brilliant stepdad to my elder DS. He was a brilliant dad to our daughter and we had happy years together. It all started to fall apart as my elder DS hit the teenage years and we had a messy split. I’m not blaming him for everything but during the split he became extremely petty and at times very mean towards my son who was only 16. I was dismayed that he could be like that forwards a kid he’d spent years living with, had once talked about adopting, had looked after every day (DS’s father is not on the scene) and have no bond with him at all.

It’s now several years post split and I’m not blaming ex DP for everything- I wasn’t perfect. We co parent well and he adores DD but him and DS only share pleasantries/polite chat - DS tolerates him because he is DD’s dad.

Anyway, point being that now I completely distrust men! I went for the “good guy” and it still went wrong! 😂

MidnightMeltdown · 04/10/2026 10:46

Some women aren’t very independent and can’t cope on their own, so will desperately cling onto any man.

Strangerthings12 · 04/10/2026 10:48

PrettyLittleRose · 04/10/2026 10:18

That's very strange that these men were begging you every week (for many months after you split up,) to have them back, when they were getting married to someone else. I have known this happen to anyone - ever. Men move on when they find someone more suitable, and never look back. They are marrying another woman, they never married you. I find it extremely odd that any man would move onto another woman, be so happy with her that they are getting married, and then drop on his knees begging you to have him back. I am struggling to believe this.

Awaits the 'but I didn't want to marry THEM' comment. 🙄

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Edited

You don’t have to believe it 😊

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MxCactus · 04/10/2026 11:32

Strangerthings12 · 04/10/2026 10:10

All assumptions, we don’t know

But people don’t change normally

Abusive men - such as those who beat up people for the colour of their skin - will rarely change

So I haven't said it's definitely men treating their new woman better. But I've said it's one of two things: either these men are treating new girlfriends better (because they've grown as a person and/ or like the woman more) OR the women in question have lower standards than OP. I've seen both of these things happen, it could genuinely be either.

I can see why OP is tempted to think these women all have lower standards than OP/have been fooled - we'd all like to think that of our exes new partners! It's much better for our egos than thinking the alternate.

But really, whatever the reason, who cares! They're not your problem anymore OP... I really don't get why you're wasting headspace on your exes

Greenismyfavouritecolournow · 04/10/2026 11:38

Perhaps it wasn’t them at all and it was you ?

Strangerthings12 · 04/10/2026 11:51

Greenismyfavouritecolournow · 04/10/2026 11:38

Perhaps it wasn’t them at all and it was you ?

Yes because my behaviour warranted my ex beating up a man for the colour of his skin and hiding food from me 😂

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inerja · 04/10/2026 12:00

Greenismyfavouritecolournow · 04/10/2026 11:38

Perhaps it wasn’t them at all and it was you ?

Do you also ask what women were wearing and if they were drunk when they disclose sexual abuse? 🤮🤮🤮

Blondiebeachbabe · 04/10/2026 12:33

I only know one woman who I think "settled", and that was because the biologocal clock was ticking, and there was literally no time to start looking for a different man. She had her daughters when she was late 40's.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 04/10/2026 12:41

PrettyLittleRose · 04/10/2026 10:18

That's very strange that these men were begging you every week (for many months after you split up,) to have them back, when they were getting married to someone else. I have known this happen to anyone - ever. Men move on when they find someone more suitable, and never look back. They are marrying another woman, they never married you. I find it extremely odd that any man would move onto another woman, be so happy with her that they are getting married, and then drop on his knees begging you to have him back. I am struggling to believe this.

Awaits the 'but I didn't want to marry THEM' comment. 🙄

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Edited

Really? None of your exes ever hit you up on social media even though they are married? NONE? I don't believe that for a second. I had a really good night out with about 15 girlfriends the other month and we discussed this at length; every single one had had one or more ex send them messages with sexual underdones through to long messages declaring they were the "one who got away". Men do this all the time!

Strangerthings12 · 04/10/2026 12:42

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 04/10/2026 12:41

Really? None of your exes ever hit you up on social media even though they are married? NONE? I don't believe that for a second. I had a really good night out with about 15 girlfriends the other month and we discussed this at length; every single one had had one or more ex send them messages with sexual underdones through to long messages declaring they were the "one who got away". Men do this all the time!

They certainly do! Why? Keeping options open?

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Gengha · 04/10/2026 12:44

IStillHearTheWaves · 03/10/2026 11:48

With respect, your posts reak of you thinking you're better than these women. I wouldn't want these men, either and certainly wouldn't put up with their shit and I'm not saying you're wrong in your assessment of them, but all this 'I wouldn't do this', 'I don't undersrand how they're married', 'I'm so independent' blah blah blah. It's good to have srandards, but what do you want from this post, a gold star? Or to show how superior you are to these dumb, desperate women who put up with low quality men?

I don’t think she’s coming across as superior at all, but she clearly has good self esteem and knows her worth. That’s a good thing, surely?

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 04/10/2026 12:44

Strangerthings12 · 04/10/2026 12:42

They certainly do! Why? Keeping options open?

Men don't change is what I took from that. It is validating to know that the exes I suspected of cheating are still trying to do that behind their wives backs. If they are asking me they are asking other women, for sure. The only way to get rid of them is to block or come off social media, which I did a few years back, mostly because I was fed up of the cycle of weird exes thinking I would jump at the chance to take them back now they'd got fat, had kids and lost all of their hair!

IStillHearTheWaves · 04/10/2026 12:56

Gengha · 04/10/2026 12:44

I don’t think she’s coming across as superior at all, but she clearly has good self esteem and knows her worth. That’s a good thing, surely?

Of course it is, but continually saying things like: ' but I’m less tolerant than other women?', 'I don't put up with that, but that's just me' and lots more comments in that vein, points more to bashing the women who settle with these men than the men themselves.

And no, it's not just her - plenty of women have self respect and boundaries and wouldn't put up with vile men. They also have enough self esteem not to make a post (not so) subtly digging these women to highlight how wonderful they are.

Strangerthings12 · 04/10/2026 13:02

IStillHearTheWaves · 04/10/2026 12:56

Of course it is, but continually saying things like: ' but I’m less tolerant than other women?', 'I don't put up with that, but that's just me' and lots more comments in that vein, points more to bashing the women who settle with these men than the men themselves.

And no, it's not just her - plenty of women have self respect and boundaries and wouldn't put up with vile men. They also have enough self esteem not to make a post (not so) subtly digging these women to highlight how wonderful they are.

Edited

Such a bizarre interpretation

not bashing women

I’m trying to understand

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grinandslothit · 04/10/2026 13:56

PrettyLittleRose · 03/10/2026 23:09

Exactly @MxCactus The men are treating future women better because they know she is 'the one' and the previous girlfriend was not. And he is NOT going down on his knees begging any ex to get back with him when he is happy with a new woman.

There's an expiry date on his niceness, so it was never niceness, it was a performance. New woman just means the clock reset. Same man, same script. He's only mean to the ones he doesn't like much isn't a flex, it's a countdown. The bar is on the floor