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DS wants to quit his expensive hobbies but DH says absolutely not

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MauveBiscuit · Yesterday 20:56

ds is 12, year 8, and has told us he wants to quit both his hobbies. dh has said absolutely not. these aren’t £20 a month clubs either, they are swimming and motocross and we have spent a stupid amount on both. I agree with ds that he should be allowed to stop, which is why I’m wondering if I’m being unreasonable. dh thinks I’m teaching him that he can give up when something gets difficult. We’ve had argument about it tonight and I don’t know what the right thing is.

ds genuinely did choose both of these and loved them, so it’s not us forcing him into something he never wanted. He started swimming at 7 because he was obsessed with being in the water, then lessons became squad training and eventually competitions. He was really excited by it all. Motocross started at 10 after dh took him to watch a friend’s son race and ds was completely hooked. He watched racing videos, talked about bikes constantly and couldn’t wait for race days. So I’m not pretending he’s always hated them.

I only added up the money recently and nearly choked tbh. Swimming and squad stuff is about £185 a month, then probably £70-100 petrol getting to meets, sometimes more. Motocross averages around £160 a month before bike parts and bike bits, tyres, race entries and all the kit. Wetsuits, goggles, boots, helmets, fuel, things that need replacing etc. We’ve had a couple of nights away for swimming too. I reckon £7-8k over the last two years, although some equipment could be sold. dh isn’t normally reckless with money, which is why this argument is awkward.

Over the last six months ds has got reluctant. First it was that he was tired, then he started missing training, then he didn’t want to race. Now he says he doesn’t enjoy either. He sits in the car before swimming and asks how long he’s got left. Before motocross he gets tense if dh starts talking about the next race. He’s not refusing everything though. He goes to school, sees friends, plays football in the park and plays his xbox. It’s these two things he doesn’t want at the moment really.

dh says ds is 12 and doesn’t know what he wants. He thinks children reach a point where something gets boring and that we shouldn’t teach him quitting is the answer. He says ds could regret giving them up. He’s told him you don’t have to love everything you do and that we’ve made sacrifices for him. I really agree with perseverance though. I’m not against finishing things after a bad week. But ds has been doing swimming for years and motocross for two, and this really doesn’t feel like one bad week anymore.

What is getting to me is dh keeps saying “the money we’ve wasted”. I understand why he says it. It is a lot of money. But I don’t think ds should have to keep going just because we’ve already spent it. dh says if he quits now then all that money will have been wasted. I keep saying the money has already gone, whether ds swims on Saturday or not. I know that sounds easy when it isn’t just my money either. I earn less than dh and I know it.

We aren’t struggling, but we’re not sitting on thousands for hobbies either. We’ve got the mortgage, two cars because of work, bills and dd’s things. We could keep paying for this, but I’d rather put some of the money towards a holiday together, savings or replacing my car which is getting ancient. dh says we’d only waste it on something else. He’s not being horrible, he genuinely thinks paying for things and sticking at them teaches ds something. I just think there comes a point where you’re paying to make a child miserable.

dh has suggested he finishes the current season. ds has already said he doesn’t want to compete anymore. dh says we can’t pull him out halfway through after paying membership and buying everything. Yesterday ds asked me if I could “just tell Dad I don’t want to do it anymore”. That got to me tonight and it upset me a lot. I really don’t want him feeling like he has to ask me to fight his corner, but I also don’t want to ignore what he’s actually saying.

dd has even said ds should be allowed to stop because “it’s his hobby”. She’s 9 and I’ve told her she’s not getting involved or taking sides. dh says that both children will learn they can give up. we could sell motocross stuff and get some money back, but dh doesn’t want to. He says ds might change his mind and then we’d have to buy everything again. I don’t know if keeping a bike and all the kit just in case makes sense to me tbh.

I’ve told dh I’m willing to pay ds’s remaining swimming fees for now if we need to, but I don’t want to keep paying for motocross if he genuinely doesn’t want it. dh says I’m undermining him and ds will learn nothing about commitment. is 12 old enough to say an expensive hobby he once loved isn’t for him? Especially when we’ve already spent the money. I really don’t know what to do about any of it at all.

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pinkstripeycat · Yesterday 21:52

Poor kid. There’s nothing worse that having to do something you really don’t like especially when it isn’t important, like school work.

They are hobbies. If you are forced to do them and you don’t want to, they are no longer hobbies.

SouthLondonMum22 · Yesterday 21:53

DH is clearly living through your DS doing motorcross. It sounds like DS is under pressure with races etc and DH has sucked the fun out of it for him.

Hobbies are supposed to be fun. What's the point otherwise?

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 21:54

Also on the money - you and your husband made the decision to spend that money - not your son. At any point you could have stopped.

I imagine if your son had wanted to follow a different expensive hobby that your DH had no interest in then you wouldn’t have paid for it

no amount of enthusiasm your son showed means that the hobby needed to be indulged or the money spent. That was the adults choice

43percentburnt · Yesterday 21:54

Would he try waterpolo instead of competitive swimming? Assuming you have a local club.

Catsandcwtches · Yesterday 21:54

Please put your foot down, especially as you are the one doing most of the driving.

My ex husband was like yours is, always wanted his way, never backed down, not willing to compromise or see another view point. If you don’t stand up to him you will get more and more worn down. And your son will be learning that his dad doesn’t listen to him and his mum goes along with what his dad wants.

PyongyangKipperbang · Yesterday 21:54

I think you need to be harsh

"You wish you could do motorcross and you can't. You are not good enough to ride or compete and that isnt DS's fault. The same with the swimming. I will not allow you to fulfil your dreams through him. Enough. He doesnt want to do it, so he isnt doing it. End of"

Laura9899 · Yesterday 21:55

Why do a hobby you don’t like, would you?

TwinklyAmberSloth · Yesterday 21:56

@MauveBiscuit he is a child. Hobbies are supposed to be fun.

If he isn't enjoying it any more then it's OK to call it quits. Perhaps it will give him the chance to do something new?

I'd suggest quitting motocross, sell the stuff, keep the swimming going til the end of the season, then he can decide about that at the end.

My DS quit a sport in Y8, but I made it clear he wasn't replacing it with just gaming, and that he needed to use the extra free time constructively.

Dorisbonson · Yesterday 21:56

Drop one and stick with the other one and make sure your son can skip sessions and has plenty of time to play/relax after homework. My son also 12 had multiple sports but tennis and swimming were most demanding. We had to drop tennis, its probably more competitive than swimming. Swimming should be 6 sessions a week but we let him drop one session (and more if he is run down) and try to make sure he has plenty of time just being a child.

I agree with your husband about the importance of perseverance.

MauveBiscuit · Yesterday 21:56

I can see what you mean about dd tbh. She hasn’t ever been pushed towards anything like this though, partly because she’s just not interested in that sort of thing.

ds does about 3 squad sessions a week at the moment plus meets, so it is a lot. He used to absolutely love the swimming though, honestly he couldn’t get enough of it. I have thought about asking if he could drop down to normal lessons or a fitness type class instead. That might actually be a good middle ground because he can still swim without all the racing and pressure.

The motocross is harder because dh is so invested in it. He keeps saying ds will miss it once it’s gone and that we’re throwing away something he worked hard at. But I do think the racing has taken over from the actual riding for him. He says he’d still like riding if there wasn’t a race attached to it, which is what makes me think maybe he really has just had enough of the competitive side.

And yes I hadn’t really thought of swimming as money wasted either because he has definitely got something from it. He can swim really well now and that was always important to me.

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PyongyangKipperbang · Yesterday 21:57

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 21:54

Also on the money - you and your husband made the decision to spend that money - not your son. At any point you could have stopped.

I imagine if your son had wanted to follow a different expensive hobby that your DH had no interest in then you wouldn’t have paid for it

no amount of enthusiasm your son showed means that the hobby needed to be indulged or the money spent. That was the adults choice

Agreed. Bet he wouldnt have paid a fortune for hockey or netball!

TeenLifeMum · Yesterday 21:58

Year 8 is generally when many stop things like swimming. For me, I think clubs are essential for teens or they end up hanging with mates in parks. So I’d be agreeing to dropping one but he needs a hobby, even if it’s not competing.

My 15yo twins - one stopped all clubs for year 11 but has a job waitressing, one cut 2 out of 4 dance classes in year 11 and will drop the other 2 at Easter (before exams).

SabrinaThwaite · Yesterday 21:59

Your DH is living vicariously through your son. That’s never going to work.

Pinkbananaa · Yesterday 22:01

Im a swimming coach its an tense sport sometimes with little reward. Youve got to love it. He should be allowed to quit. The club compete will be due January if your uk so you can quit now and just pay for the months squad fees. Equipment can be sold on vinted. Nothing worse than child being expected to continue with a sport they no longer love. I would question is your dh putting his desires above his own son. Unfortunately we do get pushy parents that dont listen to their child and burn out is a real thing.

Blondeshavemorefun · Yesterday 22:02

Sounds like dh wanted to do cross racing but wasn’t good enough so pushing your son

if they enjoy their hobby. Great

if they don’t and went to stop then no issues

if and when dd wants to stop gym then not a problem. It’s her life and time

Gremlins101 · Yesterday 22:02

He should be allowed to stop as long as he's still living a healthy life. He's given it a great shot.

I don't understand how money was wasted. He did something and enjoyed it for a while, and now he's moving on. You can of course sell the gear.

Sprinklesandsprinkles · Yesterday 22:03

Don't worry about DD having to go to meets, I sent years at my big siblings and it was boring yes but I've never resented anybody for it.

Your DS has wanted to finish for ages so he should be allowed to, I'd totally understand your DH if it was a recent thing.

Ask DH what would make the money return worthwhile? Him being an Olympic swimmer? Is he likely to have the right build to make it big time? Is he THAT good? Does he expect Red Bull sponsorship for Motocross? Like others have said its kept him active and healthy.

I was a GB international athlete and I didn't start my sport until I was 16. I did lots of hobby sports as a kid but none overly seriously until I found the one that really suited me. Make a deal that DS tries a different one so he still has a hobby but in my experience once you feel truly done with a sport you've committed to you can quit with no regrets.

stayathomegardener · Yesterday 22:03

I think I would be more worried about the financial disparity between your dh and yourself than the hobbies situation.

It sounds like he’s both financially controlling and overriding everyone else’s decisions.

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 22:04

Mine went through a similar issue with swimming at 11 - but then got back into it at 14. I suspect it was a puberty thing and he started back up again after a couple of years of rugby. I understand your DH's point about giving up but not his execution - Motorcross and swimming aren't going to be adding much to DS's future in the same way a language for example would. So maybe let him give up one and keep going with the other?

Pinkbananaa · Yesterday 22:04

3 sessions a week suggests hes not at high level of training given his age. I take it hes not county or regional swimmer. Alot of swinmers his age my dd included do 6-7 sessions a week plus land. It sounds hes reached his natural end to the sport.

TheSmallAssassin · Yesterday 22:04

What does "actually finishing something properly" actually mean? How do you finish swimming or motocross? I'd just stop at the next natural break. You would no more be undermining your husband than he would be undermining you, your opinion counts as much as his does, and your son's opinion on it should count too!

Sally2791 · Yesterday 22:05

Hobbies are meant to be fun! Your DH is seeking second hand glory. Stand up for your son.

DangerousThingsILove · Yesterday 22:06

Tricky. I think you need to listen to your ds. He can’t give up on things like school, that’s non-negotiable, but he can decide on hobbies.

i wonder if your h is being OTT and this is putting ds off?

my dh was too keen on ds doing football and that ended badly - DS wanted to give up and was too scared to tell dh this.

Some men tend to live out their sporting dreams through their DC…

YourJoyousDenimExpert · Yesterday 22:08

Even if you make him go, you can’t make him compete if he doesn’t want to. He won’t win without a lot of drive and determination- and if he doesn’t want to be there, he won’t have that.
He’s only 12 and can return to either or both later.
I used to make mine finish the term or half term so that quitting was a ‘plan’ rather than a ‘reaction’.
Your son is old enough to understand that you sometimes have to give notice as it were - and that this also gives him an opportunity to be certain.
I’ m afraid your DH will just have to accept it.

AvidMauveCrab · Yesterday 22:11

Your DS has been very clear to both of you how he feels and what he wants. Don’t let your husband bulldoze over his feelings. Using the money spent/wasted argument against a child when you’ve decided, as the adults, to pay for something is unfair.

You perhaps need to have a chat with your DS and see if there’s any compromise to be reached. Maybe completely cutting both sports/hobbies out of his life is very extreme but maybe he could reduce them and do them for fun rather than competing? I know I used to love swimming but hated doing galas within my swimming club. I’d have trained daily as long as I didn’t have to compete because I’m just not competitive naturally. Maybe your DS has similar feelings?

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