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DS wants to quit his expensive hobbies but DH says absolutely not

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MauveBiscuit · Yesterday 20:56

ds is 12, year 8, and has told us he wants to quit both his hobbies. dh has said absolutely not. these aren’t £20 a month clubs either, they are swimming and motocross and we have spent a stupid amount on both. I agree with ds that he should be allowed to stop, which is why I’m wondering if I’m being unreasonable. dh thinks I’m teaching him that he can give up when something gets difficult. We’ve had argument about it tonight and I don’t know what the right thing is.

ds genuinely did choose both of these and loved them, so it’s not us forcing him into something he never wanted. He started swimming at 7 because he was obsessed with being in the water, then lessons became squad training and eventually competitions. He was really excited by it all. Motocross started at 10 after dh took him to watch a friend’s son race and ds was completely hooked. He watched racing videos, talked about bikes constantly and couldn’t wait for race days. So I’m not pretending he’s always hated them.

I only added up the money recently and nearly choked tbh. Swimming and squad stuff is about £185 a month, then probably £70-100 petrol getting to meets, sometimes more. Motocross averages around £160 a month before bike parts and bike bits, tyres, race entries and all the kit. Wetsuits, goggles, boots, helmets, fuel, things that need replacing etc. We’ve had a couple of nights away for swimming too. I reckon £7-8k over the last two years, although some equipment could be sold. dh isn’t normally reckless with money, which is why this argument is awkward.

Over the last six months ds has got reluctant. First it was that he was tired, then he started missing training, then he didn’t want to race. Now he says he doesn’t enjoy either. He sits in the car before swimming and asks how long he’s got left. Before motocross he gets tense if dh starts talking about the next race. He’s not refusing everything though. He goes to school, sees friends, plays football in the park and plays his xbox. It’s these two things he doesn’t want at the moment really.

dh says ds is 12 and doesn’t know what he wants. He thinks children reach a point where something gets boring and that we shouldn’t teach him quitting is the answer. He says ds could regret giving them up. He’s told him you don’t have to love everything you do and that we’ve made sacrifices for him. I really agree with perseverance though. I’m not against finishing things after a bad week. But ds has been doing swimming for years and motocross for two, and this really doesn’t feel like one bad week anymore.

What is getting to me is dh keeps saying “the money we’ve wasted”. I understand why he says it. It is a lot of money. But I don’t think ds should have to keep going just because we’ve already spent it. dh says if he quits now then all that money will have been wasted. I keep saying the money has already gone, whether ds swims on Saturday or not. I know that sounds easy when it isn’t just my money either. I earn less than dh and I know it.

We aren’t struggling, but we’re not sitting on thousands for hobbies either. We’ve got the mortgage, two cars because of work, bills and dd’s things. We could keep paying for this, but I’d rather put some of the money towards a holiday together, savings or replacing my car which is getting ancient. dh says we’d only waste it on something else. He’s not being horrible, he genuinely thinks paying for things and sticking at them teaches ds something. I just think there comes a point where you’re paying to make a child miserable.

dh has suggested he finishes the current season. ds has already said he doesn’t want to compete anymore. dh says we can’t pull him out halfway through after paying membership and buying everything. Yesterday ds asked me if I could “just tell Dad I don’t want to do it anymore”. That got to me tonight and it upset me a lot. I really don’t want him feeling like he has to ask me to fight his corner, but I also don’t want to ignore what he’s actually saying.

dd has even said ds should be allowed to stop because “it’s his hobby”. She’s 9 and I’ve told her she’s not getting involved or taking sides. dh says that both children will learn they can give up. we could sell motocross stuff and get some money back, but dh doesn’t want to. He says ds might change his mind and then we’d have to buy everything again. I don’t know if keeping a bike and all the kit just in case makes sense to me tbh.

I’ve told dh I’m willing to pay ds’s remaining swimming fees for now if we need to, but I don’t want to keep paying for motocross if he genuinely doesn’t want it. dh says I’m undermining him and ds will learn nothing about commitment. is 12 old enough to say an expensive hobby he once loved isn’t for him? Especially when we’ve already spent the money. I really don’t know what to do about any of it at all.

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DaisyChain505 · Yesterday 21:36

If he’s not enjoying them why bother wasting even more money on them both? Call it a day, sell what you can to recoup some money and let it be.

We’re all entitled to change our minds about things or out grow stuff. Hobbies aren’t a prison sentence, they’re something to be enjoyed and if you’re not anymore, you stop.

hididdlyho · Yesterday 21:36

Would him quitting swimming at this stage be letting a team down? To me that would be the obvious one to stop for a while, if it doesn't impact on other kids. He's learnt an important life skill, so it's not been a waste of money as presumably he's now a very competent swimmer.

The motorcross I would suggest he keeps his gear and goes out with friends rather than competing for a while. It sounds like he might be feeling some pressure from Dad to be competing in sports rather than just doing then for fun, which could be clouding his judgment.

Blondeshavemorefun · Yesterday 21:37

It’s a lot of money and if he want to quite that’s fine. But wouldn’t be starting it again

miniblondes does gym at £250 + a month and then shows /costumes on top plus petrol is something I haven’t added but it’s 8 there back a week so adds up

we used to do swimming as well but had to drop it as gym is 4 times a week but by that time she could swim well and really only practicing stroke technique so happy to quit it

swimming he’s learn a skill

let him choose one to drop and if still feels the same in 3/6mths to stop the other

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 21:38

Does your DH spend much time with your dd? It sounds like you are running around after your son at these hobbies and it will take a lot of time which you can’t give to your daughter. I imagine she’s always second fiddle to her brothers competitions.

whats the end game here for your DH? Is your son ever going to be allowed to stop?

ItsABatFaceThing · Yesterday 21:38

Can’t you just stand up to him? Tell you’ve made a unilateral decision and the hobbies stop. Your son has told you clearly what he wants to do and your very long OP is a bit… wet. Yes, in an ideal world parents are on the same page but on this occasion you’re not and therefore what your son wants becomes the deciding factor

just tell your husband. No more discussion. Assert yourself!

Floppyearedlab · Yesterday 21:40

I’d say he can step back from the intense competing but he has to do something. Not just come home from school and ‘hang out’, be on his phone etc.

pimplebum · Yesterday 21:40

Octavia64 · Yesterday 21:06

Many kids get fed up with hobbies and change them.

honestly if he’s been swimming since 7 he’s done really well. Money spent on exercise in the child years is never wasted. It’s helped him be healthy.

most swimmers hit a point in their teens where unless they are winning medals it’s not worth the long hours in the pool and the early starts.

personally I’d see out the term and then get him to try out new forms of exercise.

Ffs its a HOBBY! For fun joy pleasure

its not an investment you didn’t do it for an end result, he's gained the friendship, skills etc now let him move on

you are very rich and have indulged a lovely hobby but now its over

oh can do it himself if he so in to it

Yuja · Yesterday 21:40

As the parent of a competitive swimmer I can tell you that those parents who force their children to do it are wasting their time. They will only do well if they truly want to be there and they are doing it for themselves and because they love it - not to please a parent. You should let him quit, but encourage him to join the development squad if there is one so he can swim 1-2 hours a week without competing to stay fit. Our club and many nearby clubs have options like this

Cherryicecreamx · Yesterday 21:41

Does it have to be all or nothing? DS says he wants to just have a ride with his friends. Let him cool off a bit from all the pressure, training and races and just enjoy what he has learnt. I feel sorry for him, a bit of encouragement is fine, but forcing him to do something he doesn't want to do is another. That's going to really tarnish his view of it. If he has a breather from it, at least he can remember how much he had enjoyed it at the time and not it becoming such a chore. Motor cross is a dangerous sport in itself, let alone if you're not focused the same.

For both activities, it sounds like he's had a good run. I would finish the term and then take a break from it all. Your 9 year old daughter is right, it's his hobby so I think it's his choice too.

Seasonofthesticks · Yesterday 21:41

I was very good at piano after being made to go to lessons from a young age and gave it up when I was a teenager and found other more cough interesting things to do and I regret it so much!

ShhhYouDontKnowMe · Yesterday 21:42

I don’t think I’d be keen on DS continuing motocross if his heart isn’t in it - the risk that he loses focus because the love/enthusiasm has gone and comes off his bike would worry me (but I am a worst-case-scenario type). I can see the value in him seeing out the swimming season and then calling it a day. There is a greater risk of DS becoming resentful of his dad by continuing either, than there is from him dropping them.

Happyjoe · Yesterday 21:44

Isn't this normal? Esp at this age? They mature at secondary school, interests change, school work ramps up. There's nothing to say a child has to keep up a hobby for years is there? Enjoy it for what it was, something your child took great joy out of at the time, not make it feel like a punishment going forward.

I did ballet until secondary, friends daughter was mad about gymnastics, doing really well in competitions, tipped to be on a path towards possibly representing the UK and then.. secondary school. Lost interest! The parents spent a fortune too and many a weekend going to competitions around the country and they just roll their eyes and laugh.

pimplebum · Yesterday 21:44

She’d probably happily spend every evening drawing and watching tv if we let her 😂

why cant she ???? What do you expect her to do after school ??? Poor kids let them chill ffs !

Iizzyb · Yesterday 21:44

Why would you force a kid to do hobbies they don’t want to do?! Surely that is a huge waste of time & effort? It’s hardly like he’s not had long enough swimming & if he’s not interested in the bike any more what’s the point in pushing it?

42goingon14 · Yesterday 21:47

MauveBiscuit · Yesterday 21:22

I do think dh is more into the motocross tbh. He likes watching it and knows a lot more about the bikes than I do. He says he only got ds into it because ds wanted to though, which is true, ds was absolutely mad for it at first.

I hadn’t really thought about dh sucking the fun out of it but maybe. The racing has definitely become a much bigger thing. ds used to just love riding and now every conversation seems to be about the next race, whether he’s trained enough, what position he came etc. I think that’s probably part of why he’s fed up.

And yes I keep saying the money wasn’t wasted because ds did enjoy it! It’s not like we’ve paid £8k for nothing and he’s never used any of it. He had some brilliant times with it. I think dh just can’t get past how much we’ve spent.

I did suggest just riding without racing but dh says that’s not really the point of doing motocross and ds says if he could just ride with his friends he’d actually enjoy it. So we are going round in circles really. And yes I feel awful being in the middle of it, especially when ds is asking me to tell his dad for him.

Surely this is the answer - he doesn’t like competing, not everyone does. If your DH thinks racing is so important, tell him to go and enter himself. Your son is not a way for your DH to indulge his passion.

TheSmallAssassin · Yesterday 21:47

I don't understand why your husband thinks your son will thank you later for making him carry on, it doesn't sound like he's headed for the Olympics, so what does he think your son will regret if he stops?

There's no need to be committed to a hobby, its supposed to be something you enjoy doing! Would he think your money has been better spent if you force your son to keep doing the hobbies until he definitely hates them? There's no logic to his arguments!

LavenderDisco · Yesterday 21:47

I have a question for your DH which he needs to think about...
At what point does your DH imagine your son is allowed to drop these activities? Is there an arbitrary age that he's allowed to stop without the money previously spent being "wasted" 16? 18? Does he have to continue them into adulthood? Does he have to become a professional or Olympic sportsman? Are they a gateway to a scholarship at a US college? What is the point of dictating another person's leisure time? What exactly will your son thank his dad for in the future?

MauveBiscuit · Yesterday 21:48

dh does spend time with dd, it’s not like she’s ignored or anything. He takes her to dance sometimes and they do stuff together at home. But yes I probably do end up doing more of the lifts for ds because dh works around when he can and motocross is a bit all over the place. Swimming meets can take up most of a Saturday as well. dd has come along to loads of them though and I know she gets bored, which does bother me.

As for the end game, honestly I don’t know. dh says he’ll be allowed to stop when he’s “actually finished something properly” which isn’t really an answer because he could probably find another reason to carry on. He keeps saying just get through this season and then we’ll see.

And I know I probably sound wet 😂 I just don’t find it that easy to tell dh it’s all stopping when we’ve both paid for it and he’s so strongly against it. I could obviously just do it, but then we’d have a massive row and I don’t want ds stuck in the middle any more than he already is.

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Gilleep · Yesterday 21:48

Your DH's approach is likely to be highly damaging to his relationship with his son, who will be feeling a lot of pressure. How would you feel if you were forced to do an extremely pressurised competitive sport you didn't like and then someone wanted to talk endlessly about how well you did (or didn't do)?

My take is that a kid who is generally ok might be a bit nervous or reluctant before training, but if you ask them when they come out whether they still want to quit, they say no. But if the child is persistently saying they don't want to do something they should be allowed to stop, particularly once they're 12 years old. He's not a little kid anymore - at this age, if he's not self-motivated what's the point? Is your DH essentially saying that unless he doesn't these hobbies for the rest of his life, all the money was a total waste? That's ridiculous.

Let him play football with his friends and maybe join a non-competitive swimming club. Or even just go and have fun in the pool at the weekend.

PurpleThistle7 · Yesterday 21:49

Actually after reading your update I’m even more team son. Your daughter doesn’t have these expectations put on her, only your son? What’s that about?

You have as much control over your kids’ lives as he does so you can decide enough is enough. The money argument is just silly as you’re just spending more and more now, you’ve already spent the past fees so you can stop whenever and save money.

I would be actively encouraging my child to stop motorcross anyway. Your husband sounds way too invested and I can see why that would suck all the fun out of it (major reason my son quit football was the intensity of the football dads. He round it quite overwhelming and almost frightening)

Bunnycat101 · Yesterday 21:50

You have to love swimming to do it competitively. You’ve given him a life skill and that won’t be money wasted. Motorcross is more of a hobby I’d only facilitate if it was a love. It’s not really a life skill like swimming and it sounds like your DH is living vicariously though your son.

How many hours of swimming does he do at the moment and could he just drop to a fitness class rather than squad hours?

Happyjoe · Yesterday 21:50

MauveBiscuit · Yesterday 21:48

dh does spend time with dd, it’s not like she’s ignored or anything. He takes her to dance sometimes and they do stuff together at home. But yes I probably do end up doing more of the lifts for ds because dh works around when he can and motocross is a bit all over the place. Swimming meets can take up most of a Saturday as well. dd has come along to loads of them though and I know she gets bored, which does bother me.

As for the end game, honestly I don’t know. dh says he’ll be allowed to stop when he’s “actually finished something properly” which isn’t really an answer because he could probably find another reason to carry on. He keeps saying just get through this season and then we’ll see.

And I know I probably sound wet 😂 I just don’t find it that easy to tell dh it’s all stopping when we’ve both paid for it and he’s so strongly against it. I could obviously just do it, but then we’d have a massive row and I don’t want ds stuck in the middle any more than he already is.

What is it your son is supposed to 'finish?'. It's a hobby, no?
Your husband is being unreasonable.

Aluna · Yesterday 21:50

It sounds like DH is the one who needs to be doing motorcross.

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 21:50

I’m not surprised your dd is keen for him to drop the hobbies! It sounds like she’s second fiddle

and your DH is actually being cruel. He needs to take a good long look at himself - perhaps you could hold the mirror up.

and also think about what you are modelling to your kids - Dad has made a decision and I’m not going to challenge it. What are they learning about adult relations?

Elieza · Yesterday 21:50

the boy may deliberately fall of his bike to break it (and bones) if he hates it that much so he gets allowed to stop.
i wouldn’t want that risk. young people dont always make sensible decisions. they think with the heart not head.

id therefore take the stance of let him ride and swim with his mates for a few months and take the pressure off. then see how he feels once it’s not a “job working for the man” (his dad in this case).

as for “he’ll thank us later” for making him stay on.
why!? what else would he likely achieve? he can ride a bike and swim well. was he likely to become an olympian or what? i’m imagining not. he may have gotten a few more trophies between now and 16 but he’d have wanted more investment in a new bike to do it. The money was a lot but it was well spent, he learned lots, learned about working hard, deadlines, priorities, teamwork. The money was not wasted. But there comes a time that we want change. He should be allowed that. It’s his life.

Maybe dh feels the bond between them or indeed other dads will be broken. Better that than your son’s leg so he can get out of it.

give him a rest til new year. reassess then. sell the bike in the spring if unused. but i’d not spend lots of money on anything new for a good few months so he learns that youre not a money tree.
ie So you want to try horse riding ….nope wait til the summer and save pocket money. Karate … fine in summer save up pocket money if you want for a second hand suit

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