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DS wants to quit his expensive hobbies but DH says absolutely not

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MauveBiscuit · Yesterday 20:56

ds is 12, year 8, and has told us he wants to quit both his hobbies. dh has said absolutely not. these aren’t £20 a month clubs either, they are swimming and motocross and we have spent a stupid amount on both. I agree with ds that he should be allowed to stop, which is why I’m wondering if I’m being unreasonable. dh thinks I’m teaching him that he can give up when something gets difficult. We’ve had argument about it tonight and I don’t know what the right thing is.

ds genuinely did choose both of these and loved them, so it’s not us forcing him into something he never wanted. He started swimming at 7 because he was obsessed with being in the water, then lessons became squad training and eventually competitions. He was really excited by it all. Motocross started at 10 after dh took him to watch a friend’s son race and ds was completely hooked. He watched racing videos, talked about bikes constantly and couldn’t wait for race days. So I’m not pretending he’s always hated them.

I only added up the money recently and nearly choked tbh. Swimming and squad stuff is about £185 a month, then probably £70-100 petrol getting to meets, sometimes more. Motocross averages around £160 a month before bike parts and bike bits, tyres, race entries and all the kit. Wetsuits, goggles, boots, helmets, fuel, things that need replacing etc. We’ve had a couple of nights away for swimming too. I reckon £7-8k over the last two years, although some equipment could be sold. dh isn’t normally reckless with money, which is why this argument is awkward.

Over the last six months ds has got reluctant. First it was that he was tired, then he started missing training, then he didn’t want to race. Now he says he doesn’t enjoy either. He sits in the car before swimming and asks how long he’s got left. Before motocross he gets tense if dh starts talking about the next race. He’s not refusing everything though. He goes to school, sees friends, plays football in the park and plays his xbox. It’s these two things he doesn’t want at the moment really.

dh says ds is 12 and doesn’t know what he wants. He thinks children reach a point where something gets boring and that we shouldn’t teach him quitting is the answer. He says ds could regret giving them up. He’s told him you don’t have to love everything you do and that we’ve made sacrifices for him. I really agree with perseverance though. I’m not against finishing things after a bad week. But ds has been doing swimming for years and motocross for two, and this really doesn’t feel like one bad week anymore.

What is getting to me is dh keeps saying “the money we’ve wasted”. I understand why he says it. It is a lot of money. But I don’t think ds should have to keep going just because we’ve already spent it. dh says if he quits now then all that money will have been wasted. I keep saying the money has already gone, whether ds swims on Saturday or not. I know that sounds easy when it isn’t just my money either. I earn less than dh and I know it.

We aren’t struggling, but we’re not sitting on thousands for hobbies either. We’ve got the mortgage, two cars because of work, bills and dd’s things. We could keep paying for this, but I’d rather put some of the money towards a holiday together, savings or replacing my car which is getting ancient. dh says we’d only waste it on something else. He’s not being horrible, he genuinely thinks paying for things and sticking at them teaches ds something. I just think there comes a point where you’re paying to make a child miserable.

dh has suggested he finishes the current season. ds has already said he doesn’t want to compete anymore. dh says we can’t pull him out halfway through after paying membership and buying everything. Yesterday ds asked me if I could “just tell Dad I don’t want to do it anymore”. That got to me tonight and it upset me a lot. I really don’t want him feeling like he has to ask me to fight his corner, but I also don’t want to ignore what he’s actually saying.

dd has even said ds should be allowed to stop because “it’s his hobby”. She’s 9 and I’ve told her she’s not getting involved or taking sides. dh says that both children will learn they can give up. we could sell motocross stuff and get some money back, but dh doesn’t want to. He says ds might change his mind and then we’d have to buy everything again. I don’t know if keeping a bike and all the kit just in case makes sense to me tbh.

I’ve told dh I’m willing to pay ds’s remaining swimming fees for now if we need to, but I don’t want to keep paying for motocross if he genuinely doesn’t want it. dh says I’m undermining him and ds will learn nothing about commitment. is 12 old enough to say an expensive hobby he once loved isn’t for him? Especially when we’ve already spent the money. I really don’t know what to do about any of it at all.

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Sarahelisa · Yesterday 22:33

SwirlingAroundSleep · Yesterday 21:10

I would personally say to quit the motocross as it’s a dangerous thing to be doing half-heartedly.

then, with regards to swimming I would say he can quit once he finds an alternate sport as physical exercise is important. However, he doesn’t need to compete.

I agree with this. I don't think it is money wasted - surely DS has got so much out of it in fitness and skills, in learning how to compete, in working hard at something.

I spend quite a bit on my DC hobbies but feel like they haven't really found the thing they really love yet (and neither of them have got as far as your DS in anything) and that is what I would love for them to do so they enjoy a sport throughout their lives and get all benefits of being active and making friends - pushing your DS when he sounds really unhappy doesn't seem like creating a positive relationship with sport and exercise at all and surely that is the most important thing

Dontrinsemince · Yesterday 22:35

YANBU and your DH is being an arsehole. All he's going to do is make DS hate both activities even more. Whereas if he is allowed to step away now he might even decide to go back later. Particularly the swimming, why would anyone take the joy out of that by forcing him to go and compete?

cornflakecrunchie · Yesterday 22:35

Leave the poor lad alone!
For Heaven's sake!

Brickiscool · Yesterday 22:36

You haven't wasted any money as your son has really enjoyed the hobbies up to now. Is he going to end up an olympic swimmer?! If not then if he's not enjoying it why would he want to do competitions in it. Can't he just continue to swim once a week as exercise not as training.

The Motorcross got to admit I'd be really pleased my child didn't want to do it

Bringflowersofthefairest · Yesterday 22:36

Poor lad. He just wants to be a kid and not feel pressured into competing in motorcross just to please his Dad.

It really does sound like your husband is living his dream through your Son and that’s not fair.

It’s the sunken cost fallacy talking about the money spent. He is going to give it up eventually so it might as well be now when he is obviously not enjoying it.

OutOfTheOtherSide · Yesterday 22:36

Whilst this debate is ongoing, I would ensure you have very strict rules in place around screen time. He need to know that giving up his hobbies will not allow him additional time to sit on the sofa with his Xbox or mobile phone.

Onelifeonly · Yesterday 22:37

The whole point of a hobby is for it to be something you enjoy doing! Do adults force themselves to keep crocheting or playing football or whatever? Forcing a child to keep doing something they don't want to just teaches them that adults can bully them, and teens / pre teens especially are looking to separate more from parents so are less likely to want to continue something to please their parents.

Op your son will always be able to swim well and can ride motorbikes when he is older if he chooses. He loses nothing by stopping his hobbies now. You, however, will be saving money and time that your son does NOT want spent on him.

Somedayitwillclick · Yesterday 22:37

We’ve just had this with my son. He is only 6 though. He wanted to quit football, told him he had to stay until the end of the season and if still wanted to quit he could. He did. However I told him he had to pick up a new hobby because he wasn’t just sitting in the house every night gaming and being on ipad etc. he ask if he could try mma & basketball and now does them both instead.

I do think kids gets lazy etc and they do need some pushing. So I would say end of season or a set date and if they are still hating it then they can stop but I would also make it clear that he isn’t just going to be sitting round doing nothing

cocog · Yesterday 22:38

Kids are supposed to enjoy their hobbies. He’s presumably gone to high school last year lots changes he’s had some great experiences but he’s not enjoying it anymore so whatever’s been paid was worth it when he enjoyed it but not any longer. Sell the stuff and buy some for your husband he can take it up himself if it’s that important to him.

YankSplaining · Yesterday 22:40

Please let him quit. My mother made me take piano lessons for twelve years, far past the point that I stopped getting any enjoyment out of it, because “I’ve met so many people who say they wish their parents had never let them quit piano.” I knew after my first couple ballet classes that ballet wasn’t really for me, but she made me stick with it for two years. I have so many bad memories of being forced to play the piano that I almost never touch one.

Part of childhood is trying different activities and figuring out what interests you. Your son should get a chance to look into other things, instead of spending time and money on activities that no longer interest him.

somanychristmaslights · Yesterday 22:40

DH sounds like a bully. “A hobby is a regular activity that a person does for pleasure and relaxation during their free time, rather than for work or money.” DH has taken all the fun out of it. It sounds like there’s loads of pressure and DS doesn’t want that anymore. You have a DH problem here. I feel sorry for your DS.

trui · Yesterday 22:40

Poor lad, let him drop the hobbies. It's very common for children to drop hobbies around this age, they often take up.new ones later on that suit them better. Swimming is an especially good example - loads of kids seem to love swimming up until the age of about 10/11/12, and then go off it completely after that.
I was forced to do hobbies that I hated - it affected so many aspects of my life. Firstly, I never found a hobby I did actually enjoy until adulthood, because I didn't have time. Secondly, I grew up genuinely thinking that hobbies were things to be endured, and people only did them to keep fit or whatever, but actually hated them. It took me a long time to realise that people do hobbies because they enjoy them. And that's all it should ever be about - hobbies should always be things that are done voluntarily, for fun.
In terms of dealing with your DH, I would absolutely be siding with DS, and would be telling DH that DS was stopping the hobbies.

And DS needs to be taught to stand up for what he wants. At 12 years old, he can't be physically forced into a car, taken somewhere and forced onto a bike, or into a swimming pool. He himself just needs to say "I'm not going", and not leave the house. I wish I'd done that when I was younger, but I was terrified of my DM, and neither of my parents ever listened. Is that really how you want him to feel towards you?

XelaM · Yesterday 22:41

PyongyangKipperbang · Yesterday 22:18

Why is it swimming v xbox?

A lot of kids that age love cycling, parcour/freerunning/skateboarding. Just because he wont be swimming doesnt mean that he wont be doing anything.

It has to be replaced by another sport is all I'm saying. Otherwise it's easy to spend all the newly gained free time gaming or just lazing about.

YankSplaining · Yesterday 22:43

XelaM · Yesterday 22:41

It has to be replaced by another sport is all I'm saying. Otherwise it's easy to spend all the newly gained free time gaming or just lazing about.

Why does it have to be a sport, though? Why can’t it be art or theatre or woodworking, or whatever?

Walkaround · Yesterday 22:44

Imvho, your dh is being ridiculous. Does he harbour some weird ambition for your son to become a motocross world champion, or Olympic swimmer? When can the poor boy ever quit? He’s already committed several years to both. Your dh doesn’t appear to want your ds to have enjoyable hobbies, he just wants him to be super-competitive so that his money isn’t “wasted.” Is your ds really that competitive, or has his enjoyment been squashed out of him by an unnatural focus on competition? This really comes across as quite a sexist set up, where the ds is expected to compete and never show any weakness and the girl is just expected to float around looking pretty, neither taking anything seriously nor being taken seriously, and spending a large part of her life being dragged from one venue to another to observe her brother take part in competitions he didn’t even want to enter in the first place.

InBristol · Yesterday 22:44

I'd ask him to choose one and commit for 6-12 months to that. Hopefully he chooses swimming and you can find a non-competitive club for him.

neither are wasted money though. That's sunk cost fallacy and he has had lots out of it so actually it's money well spent.

allmycats · Yesterday 22:46

Fathers living their dreams and bullying their kids is very common in the schoolboy motorcross environment . If the child does not want to compete it puts them in a dangerous situation and those around them. Could you suggest that your son stops competing and that your bullying husband has a go himself.

watchingthishtread · Yesterday 22:48

Let him quit. If he regrets it he can go back. They supposed to be hobbies. It's not that serious. Your dhs attitude could kill the fun out of anything.

Imbusytodaysorry · Yesterday 22:49

@MauveBiscuit i think he should be allowed to stop / it’s not like he hasn’t accomplished anything. He doesn’t seem to have just done something for fun .He has always had to do it at competing level .

I think it’s time to let him be a kid. Let him choose if he wants to do any of it on a more casual basis . Or if he wants to find something else . I don’t think it’s money wasted it’s money well spent . he enjoyed it and he has memories and accomplished things. .
He is high school age and will be more tired. He is doing well otherwise . You won’t gain anything from pushing him and making him nmiserable .

Pinkissmart · Yesterday 22:52

I don’t understand the position of making your kids do something they don’t want to do. Especially something dangerous like motor cross .

There are so many wonderful things out there to do, why not let him do something else? How are you meant to develop and explore the world if you’re trapped into hobbies you choose at age 7?
Weird.

Worrieddancemum · Yesterday 22:52

My daughter is same age and wants to quit her sport, that she’s been obsessed with for years. It’s really upsetting as we have all supported her for years and now she just wants to do nothing. I think at this age some kids do loose interest, but equally I’m not willing to let my daughter do nothing apart from go online all day in her spare time

Twilight7777 · Yesterday 22:53

The fact that he’s been asking to quit for 6 months and his request has been ignored by both his parents. At 12 he’s more than old enough to know if he’s had enough of a hobby.

Pinkissmart · Yesterday 22:53

YankSplaining · Yesterday 22:43

Why does it have to be a sport, though? Why can’t it be art or theatre or woodworking, or whatever?

Exactly!

Scout2016 · Yesterday 22:54

Your husband is being unreasonable. What's the end goal here? There isn't going to be a qualification, I doubt it could be a potential career for your son...so there will just be more and more of the same, and if he isn't enjoying it then what is the point?

4 times a week doing something he loves great, if inconvenient and expensive. 4 times a week doing something he hasn't enjoyed for ages and is starting to dread and stress about, which also tales up lots of your time, impacts on your daughter's free time and your family time, and costs a lot is just bloody minded.

I have a sporty hobby, I'm not very good so it's just for fun. Sometimes I have to drag myself to training sessions but I always enjoy it when there and am glad I went afterwards. It doesn't sound like that is happening for your son.

What's the backstory with your husband, did he give something up as a kid and regret it? Was he nearly really good at something, or he wanted to do a hobby they couldn't afford? Does you husband have his own hobbies? If not why not - tell him to get one and stop pushing his son.

Thatsnotmynameno · Yesterday 22:55

I was a swimmer and was on quite a high level, been picked for special national trainings. My parents drove me everywhere. Around the age of your DS the pressure got to me, I didn't enjoy it anymore. Had diarrhea before matches and just so stressed to "do well" as my parents and trainers expected me to do good. I wasn't able quit when I wanted too and I still (30 years later) remember the feeling it gave me. Let him quit, your DH needs to step back