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AIBU to refuse the back seat when giving my MIL a lift?

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Frontseat · 29/09/2026 10:48

MIL expects lifts . Fair enough dh obliges.

Sometimes I’m with him as while she’s in an appt we get other jobs done/shopping etc

Turned up today and she ordered me into the back seat ! I said no - if you want a lift get in if not book an uber.
The seats are on the same level, just as accessible and the same leg room ( im petite so have the seat pulled forward so back seat has lots of space).
She went mad started shouting at me ! To have some respect and move. Called me a ‘rude disrespectful little bitch’.

Dh has then told her to sort out a taxi he’s not having her speak to me that way.

She has phoned repeatedly (we ignored)
Shes messaged to say she missed her hospital appt because of me !!!

AIBU to think she should have just sat in the back ?!!

OP posts:
nomas · 29/09/2026 13:37

NullaEffugium · 29/09/2026 13:34

I know right? Technically all the seats in the car are hers, and if they are all equal then what’s the issue with letting MIL sit next to her own son? It’s hard to have a conversation from back seat to driver.

Then this is a lesson to MIL that respect gets respect.

If MIL had said 'DIL, would you mind if I sat in the front so I can chat to son?', OP would likely have said said yes.

But if someone told me 'Get in the back' and then followed it up with 'You rude, disrespectful little bitch', there is no way I would show them any respect.

Goldenbear · 29/09/2026 13:37

dontforgetofeedthecat · 29/09/2026 13:23

they're not even restricted to British culture, these good manners are fairly widespread across the Western World.

I love how some posters pretend they have never heard of them 😂

I didn't know if it was the same in Russia, Spain etc. but yes, exactly- it's just a default position I would take, I wouldn't even think about it. I certainly wouldn't be raising my blood pressure over such trivialities!

Calliopespa · 29/09/2026 13:38

NullaEffugium · 29/09/2026 13:37

Hmm. The back is the safest part of the car. I prefer the back to the front because of this. Odd that people think the front is like first class while the back is economy.

Yes. they have obviously never been in a chauffeured Rolls!

nomas · 29/09/2026 13:39

Lexibletheflexible · 29/09/2026 13:37

Yep, but she'd slap the shit out of me if I didn't get up for an older person. So basically, even the ex prisoner who got a fraudulent council flat would never expect her MIL to sit in the back, so anyone who would should be doubly ashamed of themselves.

Getting the shit slapped out of you by your mother as a grown woman isn't the flex you think it is.

It sounds like cyclical abuse rather than respectful family.

Goldenbear · 29/09/2026 13:39

Calliopespa · 29/09/2026 13:36

I feel exactly the same: I really couldn't care enough about the front seat to ever get involved in this sort of altercation.

I would intuitively offer it to an 88 year old, as normally there is slightly more space to get in and out and as we age we tend to get stiffer.

I also offered the front seat to a friend my age the other day because it just felt like hosting. (She declined).

But if they are all equally comfortable seats, this isn't about comfort. It's about muscling and hierarchy and self-assertion. I can't imagine being so insecure that I had to squabble over a car seat to feel Big.

Edited

I feel the same, starting to think I was highly unusual in not being so angry over such a minor issue.

NullaEffugium · 29/09/2026 13:40

nomas · 29/09/2026 13:37

Then this is a lesson to MIL that respect gets respect.

If MIL had said 'DIL, would you mind if I sat in the front so I can chat to son?', OP would likely have said said yes.

But if someone told me 'Get in the back' and then followed it up with 'You rude, disrespectful little bitch', there is no way I would show them any respect.

Possibly, although I am curious as to how the other 3 lifts went and what exactly OP construed as an ‘order’ to move. I feel there is a back story to this because it escalated so quickly with both of them.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/09/2026 13:40

Calliopespa · 29/09/2026 13:38

Yes. they have obviously never been in a chauffeured Rolls!

I am very travel sick so I did say this might colour my opinion.

It only recently dawned on me that I would not like to travel in something like a limo - but I’ve never had the chance so hadn’t thought about it!

nomas · 29/09/2026 13:40

Calliopespa · 29/09/2026 13:38

Yes. they have obviously never been in a chauffeured Rolls!

So MIL should have appreciated being chauffeured in the back.

Now she will get zero lifts.

nomas · 29/09/2026 13:41

Goldenbear · 29/09/2026 13:39

I feel the same, starting to think I was highly unusual in not being so angry over such a minor issue.

When did you get called 'a rude, disrespectful little bitch' and by whom?

Lexibletheflexible · 29/09/2026 13:41

nomas · 29/09/2026 13:39

Getting the shit slapped out of you by your mother as a grown woman isn't the flex you think it is.

It sounds like cyclical abuse rather than respectful family.

Oh there are some things my parents would slap the shit out of their kids for irrespective of their age. Bad manners is one of them.

Calliopespa · 29/09/2026 13:42

Goldenbear · 29/09/2026 13:39

I feel the same, starting to think I was highly unusual in not being so angry over such a minor issue.

I think it is pretty clear there is a lot of backstory - which has now dripped in.

But people do let insecurity wind them up over absolutely nothing.

Goldenbear · 29/09/2026 13:42

NullaEffugium · 29/09/2026 13:29

I do wonder what the hospital appointments are about. If it’s something serious like cancer then OP is sorely lacking in compassion.

Yes, I was thinking the same.

ByHeartyHiker · 29/09/2026 13:42

Strawberrydelight78 · 29/09/2026 12:27

I would have moved to the back seat without being asked to anyway. Especially someone elderly with mobility issues. I have been in my sisters car with my brother in law’s mum. I would never have expected that lovely lady to get in the back seat.

Edited

OP has stated no mobility issues, MIL is early 60s which I dont consider elderly either. It's not really comparable either if you were getting a lift in someone else's car and move for their mother rather than giving a lift in your own car

bigboykitty · 29/09/2026 13:42

Frontseat · 29/09/2026 12:00

Oh the whole time I’ve known dh! She was very cold towards me initially and kept saying he shouldn’t rush things (he was still living at home). She said I stole him from her when he moved out in a semi jokey way!

She finds huge fault with my cooking if she ever comes round for a meal, if we go to hers and I offer to help she will say ‘washing up duties only for you ! We don’t want the meat/veg/sauce/dessert ruined!’

She HATES it that I work and constantly says it’s not good for the dc.

To be honest she just sounds like a total fkn nightmare and I'd be glad she'd given me an excuse to never see her again.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/09/2026 13:43

NullaEffugium · 29/09/2026 13:37

Hmm. The back is the safest part of the car. I prefer the back to the front because of this. Odd that people think the front is like first class while the back is economy.

Obviously sit in the back if you prefer it!

I think most people prefer the front for one reason or another - maybe it’s just the view like OP’s MIL claims, maybe it’s some perceived status.

For me it’s car sickness (I actually far prefer to be the driver, as I still get mildly nauseous in the front passenger seat, as opposed to horribly so in the back) but because it’s so bad it makes me very cross when some people think their height trumps this just because it’s visible.

I’m just saying height doesn’t come into it at all.

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 29/09/2026 13:44

I’m just annoyed at the waste of a hospital appointment, with people complaining about wait times!

You clearly don’t like taking MIL, don’t wait with her whilst she’s waiting or support her in anyway, no idea what the appointment is for and how much support she may need or want.

We’ve only been told one side of the story, no idea who is BU.

nomas · 29/09/2026 13:44

Lexibletheflexible · 29/09/2026 13:41

Oh there are some things my parents would slap the shit out of their kids for irrespective of their age. Bad manners is one of them.

If you still have a parent/kid dynamic then that doesn't sound healthy, no wonder you think OP should submit to bad behaviour.

NullaEffugium · 29/09/2026 13:45

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/09/2026 13:43

Obviously sit in the back if you prefer it!

I think most people prefer the front for one reason or another - maybe it’s just the view like OP’s MIL claims, maybe it’s some perceived status.

For me it’s car sickness (I actually far prefer to be the driver, as I still get mildly nauseous in the front passenger seat, as opposed to horribly so in the back) but because it’s so bad it makes me very cross when some people think their height trumps this just because it’s visible.

I’m just saying height doesn’t come into it at all.

Oh, yes, I agree. I mean other people, not you thinking it’s a status thing.
I am sorry I sounded a bit critical of you personally, not my intention at all.

Anywherebuthere · 29/09/2026 13:45

What's so special about the front seat? I expect people to just sit in the seat that's available. I wouldn't dream of ordering anyone to move and certainly wouldn't move if I was ordered to move. The only exception is moving seats if there is an actual need to do so.

You and your DH did the right thing.

nomas · 29/09/2026 13:45

Calliopespa · 29/09/2026 13:42

I think it is pretty clear there is a lot of backstory - which has now dripped in.

But people do let insecurity wind them up over absolutely nothing.

Being called a '‘rude disrespectful little bitch’ is not nothing.' Your minimisation isn't working.

Lexibletheflexible · 29/09/2026 13:45

nomas · 29/09/2026 13:44

If you still have a parent/kid dynamic then that doesn't sound healthy, no wonder you think OP should submit to bad behaviour.

I'll always be my parent's child and there will always be a hierarchy there. I'm their adult child, sure. But if I were to highlight that I missed out on a childhood lesson like basic manners, then they'd fix that by treating me like a.child until I got the lesson I obviously missed.

Thankfully, that hasn't been necessary. I learned basic etiquette in the correct window

CalmForCats · 29/09/2026 13:46

I am totally shocked about the way she reacted and can see that this is about so much more than who sits in the front seat.

A relative also does this (just myself and teen DC). Teens are used to sitting in the front of their own family car. However, my perfectly able bodied relative always makes an issue of this. She is very sneaky about it and tries to nab the front seat before my DC.

Difficult relative can be very manipulative and has some mental health issues. It sounds like your MIL isn't quite right.

Hellohelga · 29/09/2026 13:46

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 29/09/2026 10:51

I would always offer someone the front seat, especially an older person. But there's obviously way more than the car seat going on here.

This, I offer my mum the front seat to be nice/polite, and she declines it to be nice/polite.

Goldenbear · 29/09/2026 13:47

nomas · 29/09/2026 13:44

If you still have a parent/kid dynamic then that doesn't sound healthy, no wonder you think OP should submit to bad behaviour.

But you don't know the OP, how do you know what she is like towards the MIL at other times? Perhaps they are both as bad as each other.

Calliopespa · 29/09/2026 13:47

nomas · 29/09/2026 13:45

Being called a '‘rude disrespectful little bitch’ is not nothing.' Your minimisation isn't working.

The car seat was nothing was my meaning.

The little bitch comment came after as I understand it. I think the op had already said "no" by then.