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My 15 year old Son refuses to let me adopt my stepkids

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pirdgz · Today 10:17

I am posting here because I am at my absolute wit’s end and desperately need some advice

A bit of background I’ve been married to my husband for 10 years (we’re both mid-40s). We were best friends back in high school and have a long history together. My first marriage lasted 7 yearsit wasn’t high drama, but we completely lost interest in each other, put in zero effort, and eventually divorced. My husband was already divorced long before my own marriage ended (I had nothing to do with his divorce!). Toward the end of my marriage, I had an emotional affair with him. My first marriage was already dead in the water and my ex wasn't putting in any effort, so we eventually divorced, I started dating my now husband, and we got married

Six years ago, his ex wife sadly passed away from an illness. Up until then, they shared 50/50 custody of his three kids (two girls and a boy, all around 15 now, same age as my son). When she died, they came to live with us full-time. They needed extra care and support, so my attention naturally shifted to helping them through it. Over the last 6 years, we’ve built an incredibly close bond they call me Mum, and I take care of them as my own.

I also have a 15 yearold son from my first marriage, shared 50/50 with my ex. He is my absolute world and the best thing to come out of that marriage

Recently, my husband and I decided I should formally adopt his three kids. We asked them first, and they were really happy about it. But when we told my son, he said absolutely not. He told me he only wants to be my son. It turns out he has overheard me over the years venting to my husband and friends about how terrible my first marriage was and how glad I am to be out of it. He has somehow internalized this to mean that I regret having him, that I resent him, and that I'm adopting my stepkids to build a "new family" to replace him.

That couldn't be further from the truth. I love him to pieces, but he has completely misconstrued what he heard. Now he’s given me a strict ultimatum if I adopt them, he will move out to live with his dad full-time and cut all contact with me.

It’s been 3 weeks of total cold shoulder. He refused to come on our family trip, and he’s freezing out his stepdad and step siblings. His 15th birthday was on the 21st normally we do a nice family dinner, but he said his dad was hosting and told me to come alone without my husband or stepkids. I got angry and snapped at him, asking why he was punishing me over adopting his siblings. Later I agreed to go alone, but he told me not to come at all because I lost my temper. So I didn't go. He hasn't spoken a single word to me since.

I feel completely sick to my stomach. I love my stepkids and want to formalize the family bond we've had for 6 years, but I am terrified of losing my son over this

How do I fix this with my son and make him understand how much I love him without hurting my stepkids

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SpinandSing · Today 12:44

You can't let a 15 year old make this decision for you. Keep communicating with him, make it clear that it's going ahead because it's best for everybody and that it changes nothing between you and him. Is it possible that his DF is dripping poison in his ear? I would just stick to your messaging...and think about some counselling sessions for you both if things don't get better.

Kopfkino · Today 12:45

Also, well done OP on dropping this on your DS who is 15, so I take it he’s going into GCSE’s this coming year?

So, a year of mocks, final exams and minimum grades to get on the 6th form courses he wants.

I’ve seen so many young men’s life screwed up by poor exam grades as a result of parental selfishness and behaviour.

You are a mother, you need to apologise to your son, park the adoption for now and make sure you get him through his exams with as much support as you can muster.

He needs you this year. You need to step up.

gazelka · Today 12:48

SpinandSing · Today 12:44

You can't let a 15 year old make this decision for you. Keep communicating with him, make it clear that it's going ahead because it's best for everybody and that it changes nothing between you and him. Is it possible that his DF is dripping poison in his ear? I would just stick to your messaging...and think about some counselling sessions for you both if things don't get better.

In what way is it best for DS?

InterIgnis · Today 12:52

You’re not going to get everything you want here. There’s no solution anyone can offer that will make that happen. This isn’t blackmail from your son, it’s a clearly drawn line in the sand. You can adopt your stepchildren, but doing so will mean you lose your son (and no, he may never change his mind in years to come). Your choice.

LejlaKapovic · Today 12:54

@pirdgz
I'm 1000% with your son. You really shouldn't entertain the idea of adopting your stepkids whatsoever.

A bit of background I’ve been married to my husband for 10 years (we’re both mid-40s). We were best friends back in high school and have a long history together. My first marriage lasted 7 yearsit wasn’t high drama, but we completely lost interest in each other, put in zero effort, and eventually divorced.
So your son has never experienced what it's like to have happy nuclear family. Is it then so weird that he's struggling with seeing you play happy family with another family he has zero relation to and didn't choose?

My husband was already divorced long before my own marriage ended (I had nothing to do with his divorce!). Toward the end of my marriage, I had an emotional affair with him.
But your current husband had much to do with YOUR divorce! So not only did your son not have happy parents and a happy family life, but his mother cheated on his father with the man she's now playing House with. He's probably asking himself why you can be loving, a proper wife and mother, and committed to this man and his kids, but you couldn't even care enough about him and his father to stay faithful.

My first marriage was already dead in the water and my ex wasn't putting in any effort
So you get a divorce and THEN start dating other people. You don't cheat.

Six years ago, his ex wife sadly passed away from an illness. Up until then, they shared 50/50 custody of his three kids (two girls and a boy, all around 15 now, same age as my son). When she died, they came to live with us full-time. They needed extra care and support, so my attention naturally shifted to helping them through it. Over the last 6 years, we’ve built an incredibly close bond they call me Mum, and I take care of them as my own.
I also have a 15 yearold son from my first marriage, shared 50/50 with my ex.
From your son's perspective, you are a mum to another man's children 100% of the time, but only 50% of the time to him. On top of that, your attention has been more on your step children than your own son due to them losing their mother. So on many fronts, your son has most likely noticed that he's not been your priority in any way.

He is my absolute world and the best thing to come out of that marriage
No, he's not, and you have shown him with your actions that he's not your "absolute world". He's the last person on your priority list.

Recently, my husband and I decided I should formally adopt his three kids. We asked them first, and they were really happy about it. But when we told my son, he said absolutely not.
This is an example of how your son isn't "your absolute world" but in fact comes last in your world. He was the last person to be told and consulted about this adoption idea. He should have been consulted as the very first - before you shared the idea with your husband's children. But because you don't give a shit about what your thinks, feels or wants, you asked him last. You didn't really intend to ask for his blessing, you were essentially just letting him know that the adoption has been decided - and only amongst yourself, your husband and HIS children. He was an after thought.

He told me he only wants to be my son. It turns out he has overheard me over the years venting to my husband and friends about how terrible my first marriage was and how glad I am to be out of it. He has somehow internalized this to mean that I regret having him, that I resent him, and that I'm adopting my stepkids to build a "new family" to replace him.
There you go. Even post divorce you can't treat his father, his family, with an ounce of respect. You cheated on his father and have the audacity to still, to this day, talk shit about his father in earshot of your son. Of course your son is going to be upset and take it personally. He already didn't get to experience what a nucelar family is like because neither you or your ex-husband could be bothered to make an effort with each other for the sake of your son, now he also has to listen to you talk badly of the little experience he did have of nuclear family life.

That couldn't be further from the truth.
It doesn't matter if it is or not - your son is TELLING you how your behaviour and words come across to HIM. Bloody listen to him! It's not about YOU, it's about HIM! If he feels like you regret having him, it's your job to change your behaviour and words to convince him otherwise. Instead, you reject responsibility and place it on to him. The problem, in your head, is HIS interpretation of the negative things you say about his father, not that you shit talk about his father and make him feel unwanted.

I love him to pieces, but he has completely misconstrued what he heard.
This is irrelevant. And you're looking at this too simplistically. His interpretation of what you've said isn't based on just the actual words you spoke in the moment, but years and years and years of feeling like he doesn't have a nuclear family, feeling like his foundation is unstable, that he's not been prioritised, and that he's seen his mother be a mother 100% of the time to other children but is only a mum 50% of the time to HIM. Based on all of this, your shit talk was interpreted as him being unwanted.

Now he’s given me a strict ultimatum if I adopt them, he will move out to live with his dad full-time and cut all contact with me.
This is the drop for him, he's had enough of your neglect. This is his test to see if you'll FINALLY prioritise him over your husband and his kids. Will you?

It’s been 3 weeks of total cold shoulder. He refused to come on our family trip, and he’s freezing out his stepdad and step siblings. His 15th birthday was on the 21st normally we do a nice family dinner, but he said his dad was hosting and told me to come alone without my husband or stepkids. I got angry and snapped at him
Nevermind, you basically answered my question here. You won't prioritise your son. Ever.

...asking why he was punishing me over adopting his siblings.
You're so incredibly selfish and self-absorbed, it's unbelievable. You completely lack the ability to feel ANY empathy and understanding for your own child, even in moments when he's directly asking you to put him first for once, because he doesn't feel like you ever do - and your reaction to this is to get angry and try to force him to give you what YOU want: permission to adopt. I can't believe you're more annoyed and angry about him not giving you the thumbs up to adopt than you're upset and angry with yourself for being such a heartless mother to your own son. You need to straighten your head, seriously.

Later I agreed to go alone, but he told me not to come at all because I lost my temper.
I don't blame him. Even his birthday, the one day that should be about HIM, you had to ruin for him by imposing your pretend-family on him. He didn't want it, but you got angry and insisted that he must share the limelight with them. You made the one day where HE should be the center of attention all about the family you make the center of your attention every single day. You truly are a clueless mother.

So I didn't go. He hasn't spoken a single word to me since.
He sounds like a good kid who knows his worth and knows when it's time to set boundaries. Hopefully he'll do well in this world when he encounters assholes, because he's been used to dealing with you for his entire young life.

I feel completely sick to my stomach.
You should. You should feel even worse than just "sick to your stomach". You've been an awful mother to your son.

I love my stepkids and want to formalize the family bond we've had for 6 years, but I am terrified of losing my son over this
Yeah, we know you do - you love them more than your own child, evidently.

You have a son from another man to consider in your life choices, you don't get to do everything according to your own wants and needs. You gave up that right when you had your son. He comes before you, and he should for sure come before your current husband and his kids. No ifs or buts about it.

How do I fix this with my son and make him understand how much I love him without hurting my stepkids
Too late for that. Somebody is absolutely going to get hurt - question is, will it be your son (yet again) or your step kids?

Your big mistake was to plant the adoption idea into your step children's head before you bothered asking your son how he feels about it. Now you have a bunch of kids who're excited about the prospect of getting a new "mum" and a child who's distraught about, yet again, being cast aside. Unfortunately, the only thing that will fix the relationship with your son is to put him first for once. Completely forget the adoption idea - like, entirely. I'm sorry your step kids will be hurt, but they'll get over it. You're not adopting them for their sake anyway. You're doing it for yourself, to delude yourself into believing you have a "formal family" you can show off to the world. I guess that's an attractive image to have in your head when the first version of family life didn't work out for you - you're trying too hard to make the beta version better.

TiredShadows · Today 13:01

I'm another hoping this is a windup, but wouldn't surprise me if it isn't.

I was young when my mother gave up custody, and I can remember being a teenager and having a lot of adults really struggle and dismiss my viewpoint that the people my father was dating/marrying didn't mean I saw them or their kids as family, they were just people I tolerated because of my father. I was left out of a lot of discussions and 'told' a lot of things resulted in me leaving my father's house the day I finished secondary school. They can say all the nice platitudes, but it's all hollow attempts at emotional manipulation compared to their actions being loud and clear that I didn't fit the picture perfect image they had in mind.

A lot of damage has already been done, there is no fix, but the first steps. would be to stop dismissing his feelings as misunderstandings and offer an open, non-defensive conversation.

Do the step-kids actually know you adopting them would erase their dead mum from their legal existence basically? Like she never existed? I can’t get my head round how you’re even considering it. I assume they don’t realise that.

I doubt that will have been explained to them, it'll be all about the bond and formalising feelings.

He needs to sit down and discuss his thoughts and feelings with both his parents not place threats on people to make sure he gets his own way!

Maybe he could have done that if the OP had taken up his request to have his birthday be with both of his parents, rather than losing her temper because her new husband and stepkids weren't part of it.

My point is not via blackmail he doesn't!

Whether this is called blackmail, emotional manipulation, or teenager trying to get some control by setting boundaries in a difficult situation, he decides if he wants to keep trying to have a relationship with his mother.

At 15, he can choose to live with his father and not talk to his mother.

Uricon2 · Today 13:02

I also wonder if the stepchildren have fully taken on board the reality of what adoption means in relation to their late mother and also how it impacts on any maternal family they have a relationship with. I wonder if some posters who are supporting the OP have thought how they would feel if their son or daughter died and this then happened with their grandchildren. Imagine quite a few would be very hurt, especially when there is no overriding practical reason for it.

Notasbigasithink · Today 13:17

redskyAtNigh · Today 12:35

But it's ok for OP to lose her temper when he says he only wants his parents at his birthday dinner and refuse to go?

Sorry I completely forgot that MNs is full of perfect parents that never lose their temper..... 🙄🙄

Sulgari · Today 13:30

Error404FucksNotFound · Today 11:31

Tbh, I genuinely hope so.

Better that that this shitshow being real.

Ah, yes

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 13:35

Your poor son. Why do your step kids need adopting? Drop the whole stupid idea.

FrippEnos · Today 13:44

If this is real,

Then the OP has backed themselves in to a corner.

She has already told the step kids that they are going to be adopted, and her DS that it is happening.

Postponing the adoption will cause grief for the DS.
Going ahead with the adoption causes grief for the DS.

Maray1967 · Today 13:51

You have really screwed this up, OP, and this is a warning for any parent to not vent about their ex when their DC are in the house.

He is very angry and he’s lashing out, which is not good - but I think it’s very understandable how he feels when it sounds as though you did not talk to him first. There is no need to adopt your DH’s kids at the moment - just let it drop. Rebuild your relationship with him, and do any future slagging off of his Dad well out of his earshot.

CinnamonBuns67 · Today 13:56

I wouldn't be impressed if my mum had stepkids and wanted to adopt them, I'd never adopt my SD even if her mum passed away and I don't think my kids would be impressed either even though my SD is their half sister.

Adopting your stepkids will ruin your relationship with your son and it is wholly unnecessary.

LetGoLetThem1234 · Today 13:59

I think your son's feelings are more important than your need to formalise the situation by adopting your step children.

Can you not love your step children without adopting them?

Kopfkino · Today 14:32

What’s your son’s set up like at his dads? Is he welcome and supported there? Are there other kids and a step mum?

If it’s just his dad, I think letting him go there and have a couple of years where he is front and centre would do him good.

He needs stability and calm to get through the next 3 years before he enters the wide world.

You need to now make it up to him and do what’s in his best interests however hurtful that is for you. I’m afraid you have been desperately selfish in your actions and choices, which have massively impacted him.

ColdAsAWitches · Today 14:38

@gazelka

I would add it speaks volumes that you've decided to adopt DH kids but DH has not asked to adopt your son? He can still adopt if his biological dad is alive.

What? This is the worst idea on the thread! Why on earth would her son or his dad ever agree to that? Would you just give away your kids? Absolute Insanity!

redskyAtNigh · Today 14:43

Notasbigasithink · Today 13:17

Sorry I completely forgot that MNs is full of perfect parents that never lose their temper..... 🙄🙄

Missing the point. Losing your temper because someone is not behaving in the way you think they ought to is emotional blackmail.

outerspacepotato · Today 14:46

Kopfkino · Today 12:45

Also, well done OP on dropping this on your DS who is 15, so I take it he’s going into GCSE’s this coming year?

So, a year of mocks, final exams and minimum grades to get on the 6th form courses he wants.

I’ve seen so many young men’s life screwed up by poor exam grades as a result of parental selfishness and behaviour.

You are a mother, you need to apologise to your son, park the adoption for now and make sure you get him through his exams with as much support as you can muster.

He needs you this year. You need to step up.

She's consistently chosen everyone else ahead of her son. She talked shit about his dad, she didn't even go to his damn birthday, now she and her husband have decided she will adopt husband's kids without even giving him a heads up that she was considering such a huge step that would have big life implications for him, and she dropped it at a critical life point for him.

Going by her actions, she really couldn't have cared less about him and she's not going to jeopardize her nice life to put her son first for once. If this is true, he's better off at his dad's.

A good example of how not to parent.

TheJoyousHiker · Today 15:09

But you’re not adopting his siblings, are you ? You want to adopt the children of your husband. They may be his step-siblings, but not actual siblings, he is no relation to them at all really. Hindsight is a great thing but you should have been more careful to make sure he wasn’t around when you were slagging off his Dad over the years.

It seems while you were busy building a close bond with your husband’s children your own child took a back-seat and felt side-lined. You need to drop plans to adopt your husband’s children or your relationship with your DS will be damaged forever.

outerspacepotato · Today 15:22

It also sounds like the husband here sees OP's disinterest in her son and it's fine with him, maybe because his kids benefit. They talked about this, hopefully more than once and made the adoption decision and told his kids without him making a peep that maybe she should tell her son, who lives in their home at least part time.

I think a lot of husbands would question not running this by her bio teen son. That's a tell about his character.

So, massive long term parenting fails by mom, uncaring at best stepdad, and step siblings who don't take the son into account.

And now OP is upset because her son is no contact with her. Will she be liable for child support with him living at his dad's full time?

I don't see this as fixable.

saraclara · Today 15:31

I don't see this as fixable.

Nor do I.

We can only hope that this is a troll, and there there isn't a real hurt and damaged teenager behind the original post.

Topseyt123 · Today 15:33

SpinandSing · Today 12:44

You can't let a 15 year old make this decision for you. Keep communicating with him, make it clear that it's going ahead because it's best for everybody and that it changes nothing between you and him. Is it possible that his DF is dripping poison in his ear? I would just stick to your messaging...and think about some counselling sessions for you both if things don't get better.

How is being sidelined in this way best for the 15 year old boy here?

Uricon2 · Today 15:41

ColdAsAWitches · Today 14:38

@gazelka

I would add it speaks volumes that you've decided to adopt DH kids but DH has not asked to adopt your son? He can still adopt if his biological dad is alive.

What? This is the worst idea on the thread! Why on earth would her son or his dad ever agree to that? Would you just give away your kids? Absolute Insanity!

Yes. A DF with longterm 50:50 is not going to cheerfully severe the legal bond with his child, like some deadbeat who refuses to acknowledge them as theirs (my birth father)

Adoption is a serious business that creates and breaks ties. I'm not at all anti adoption, including step in the right circumstances (my adoptive stepfather was my Dad), but this is such an awful mess and I truly hope it is a bit of creative writing.

redskyAtNigh · Today 16:25

Topseyt123 · Today 15:33

How is being sidelined in this way best for the 15 year old boy here?

I'm not even sure how it's best for the step-children who will be forced to break their relationship with their mother's side of the family.

Boomer55 · Today 16:28

Gengha · Today 10:22

Honestly I’d let the kid get on with it. Dont allow yourself to be blackmailed by a 15 year old.

This. Do what you need to do. It doesn’t affect him, and in a few years, he’ll be off living his life.