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Update: to feel as though contextual offers are unfair

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YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 09:41

Update regarding this
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5567476-aibu-to-feel-contextual-offers-are-unfair-after-my-sons-results?callback=in&code=YTYYNJU0NZUTMJAZMY0ZY2RKLWE5NZQTNTY4ZDRLYZQ2YTU3&reply=154196625&state=efb9c2356e9442fe90af05997d0b47e9

Hi,
I posted here yesterday about my son and stopped responding because, to be honest, I was hurt for him and I think my post came across as ridiculous. I didn’t say he was the hardest working boy in the world, but he is hardworking, and as his mum I’m obviously going to think that my son is hardworking whether that is true or not I base it on who he is, he’s spent majority of his life being very disciplined ie waking up early for rowing sessions etc.

He was rejected from Oxford because he didn’t meet the offer of 2 A stars and an A on results day. We understand that wholeheartedly he didn’t meet the offer case closed. He was accepted into Durham for economics and maths which unfortunately wasn’t the university he wanted. We’ve visited Durham he didn’t dislike it but it’s not the uni for him, he preferred other unis that weren’t oxford but declined their offers. We had been warned about the importance of his insurance choice and we did speak to him about it, but I suppose he was a little arrogant about it all. He’s certainly learnt his lesson now.

We did submit his for remarks because, looking at the grade boundaries, he was very close to getting 3 A stars only two marks off one on one of his subjects. Which is why he was near miss, on results day he was in a waiting pool essentially on hold. We’re still waiting for the Further Maths remark, but that was a few more marks off but we are willing to risk it so he may not even need to resit anything, but we’ll see.
The school isn’t against resits plenty of students resit all the time a friend of ours their son resat last year as he missed on one of his subject and the remark didn’t change. He’s off to uni this year having achieved the grades required. Sometimes students have mitigating circumstances that affect how they do on their exams in May/June.

Either way, he now has 2 A stars and an A. He is a hardworking boy, like so many other students, and this year has also been incredibly difficult for him as he lost someone very close to him, which affected him a lot. I think it’s tough for anyone who has lost a someone they’re close to, to suicide no one knows how they’d deal with that. I sympathise with my son, he did his best whilst also attending therapy we are super proud of him.

We’re going to look around Edinburgh on their open day and see what he thinks as we recently visited the city and he liked it a lot. He is still applying to Oxford again at least this time he has actual grades not predicted, they apply early so he’ll have time to make decisions if he doesn’t get an offer this time. Last time he got an interview and smashed it but he knows he might not get an interview. He has the grades and can do economics so it’s simply a case of whether he gets an interview and, if he does, how it goes. Oxford is incredibly competitive and, honestly, he was lucky to get an interview and get as far as he did last time. There are so many incredibly bright children applying, and there will always be people who are just as bright, if not brighter, than him.

He’s happy to take the gap year anyway. He wants to work for a while as he’s working in an art gallery and throughly enjoying it then hopefully do some travelling, lots of his friends are taking gap years anyway. His girlfriend was always planning to take a gap year, work and travel, so he’ll probably join her.

I do understand how privileged we are. Saying that we want the best for our child doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate that other parents want exactly the same for theirs. We know we’re very lucky to have had the means to send our children to private school. My original post was a typo filled rant not exactly thinking and looking back, it was definitely a privileged rant. That wasn’t my intention, but I can see how it came across that way, and for that I genuinely apologise.

Ultimately I’m just happy for my son he has been through a lot this academic year I think he should just chill and have fun. Those grades are his and he can do whatever he wants with them. We’ve had a long chat about everything a few tears from me and DH nearly got teary we are just so proud of him. He knows that, even if it isn’t Oxford, he has plenty of options. With 2 A*s and an A, regardless of what happens with the FM remark. He can apply to so many excellent universities and doesn’t need to rely on predicted grades. Other than Oxford and Cambridge, lots of universities don’t require an interview. He’s applied for two courses some unis only maths other econ and maths which is what he wants to study anyway.

People saying maybe he’s not that clever because he missed his offer…. You might be right.

He’ll be applying with achieved grades this time rather than predicted grades, so whatever happens he will be fine. His mocks he achieved 3 A stars but this was before his friends passing. He has now got 2 A stars and hopefully this other remark is a success if not that’s fine. His school did let us know that Oxford do take into account mitigating circumstances but our son did not want that associated with his application so no mention of that to either of the universities. He just wanted to focus on revision at the time. I think a gap year is a good idea he’ll have time to think, and reflect on things beyond just education maybe come October time he might not even want to apply to oxford. He’s said he’s going to have a big think after the lengthy conversation.

He’s a privileged boy and maybe I haven’t done the best job at making sure he knows that since this is his first set back in life but he is 17 he will learn and has lots more time for set backs. We will keep guiding him and make better decisions as parents all I can do is try to do even better with his younger siblings in terms of then knowing their privileges.

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OP posts:
Angeruish · 17/08/2026 12:46

Taztoy · 17/08/2026 12:41

And you think I don’t?

Trust me, the op has no idea just how privileged she and her child are.

I'm sure you do.

The comment was much more directed at the OP, who probably feels the need for it right now.

Taztoy · 17/08/2026 12:59

Angeruish · 17/08/2026 12:46

I'm sure you do.

The comment was much more directed at the OP, who probably feels the need for it right now.

So what did you mean then?

the ops son is the very definition of privileged.

contextual offers are for kids like mine who was the first from her school to get to a Russell group. Or one of my others who had to sit finals when I was having the worst time possible. Who were free school meals all the way through. Who couldn’t even go non uniform coz I didn’t have the quid to send them with. So oops. I forgot. Who had divorced parents and lived on a sink estate. Whose mother left school at 15 coz she was pregnant (and went to uni later but that’s not the point).

the op has NO idea what it’s like. None.

ilovesooty · 17/08/2026 13:00

I don't see why you needed a new thread to update.

Taztoy · 17/08/2026 13:04

ilovesooty · 17/08/2026 13:00

I don't see why you needed a new thread to update.

Also this.

KidsDoBetter · 17/08/2026 13:05

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:40

Because we decided to just let it go at the time and not bother.

This can’t be real? You said he had 2 x As and 1 x A* in the other thread.

Your story keeps changing.

What was his offer from Oxford. And was it E&M. What was his TSA score???

Stowickthevast · 17/08/2026 13:07

poodlemum01 · 17/08/2026 11:40

I sympathise OP @YourWaryHam as we had a similar situation last year although not oxford.

We're in Scotland and DD had applied to 5 universities to study a certain subject. Due to widening participation / contextual offers, her school bully got a conditional offer with lower grades than DD got and DD got rejected (same course). All because of postcodes - school bully has a nice house, with more rooms than us, but its in a non desirable area.

DD did what it appears your DS did - pinned all her hopes on that one university as it was 'the best' for her subject and her friends were going there. We took her to other open days but she would call us after half an hour saying she'd seen all she needed to see and could we pick her up - I did warn her but she didn't listen.

well she got 2 conditionals 2 rejections and 1 unconditional - which she ended up accepting. She has made no friends as yet and is unhappy but understands its a means to an end - its the type of degree where every graduate gets a job due to demand. Fortunately she commutes in so still sees her local friends.

the postcode thing p*ssed me off - it seems so unfair and what made it more upsetting is that DD should have met the contexual criteria anyway as she's a young carer. I think the postcode is easier for universities to check though.

Edited

Contextual offers are not normally done purely on postcodes. But even so, you admit the other person's house is in a less desirable area.

If your DD was a young carer, were the unis aware of this information?

There seems to be a lot of bitterness around contextual offers. They are not taking away one person's place, they are there to level up people who have had more deprived upbringings.

VioletSeagull · 17/08/2026 13:07

What an utterly bizarre pair of threads. No, of course your son wasn’t discriminated against because of his immense privilege. 🙄 And pretending to agree with PPs that he isn’t bright while saying that you know what he is capable of is disingenuous and insulting.

But the most bizarre thing of all is that you decided to ask for a remark, received the new grade in record time, but you had already let the place go. Why on earth would your son do that, given how upset he was about not getting into Oxford? What an odd choice.

KidsDoBetter · 17/08/2026 13:09

VioletSeagull · 17/08/2026 13:07

What an utterly bizarre pair of threads. No, of course your son wasn’t discriminated against because of his immense privilege. 🙄 And pretending to agree with PPs that he isn’t bright while saying that you know what he is capable of is disingenuous and insulting.

But the most bizarre thing of all is that you decided to ask for a remark, received the new grade in record time, but you had already let the place go. Why on earth would your son do that, given how upset he was about not getting into Oxford? What an odd choice.

also within that time organised about 5 gap year activities for said child. Wow!

Cyclingmummy1 · 17/08/2026 13:09

I may have missed it, but your son's A levels were FM and what else?

Taztoy · 17/08/2026 13:11

KidsDoBetter · 17/08/2026 13:09

also within that time organised about 5 gap year activities for said child. Wow!

Even that shows massive privilege. My no1 didn’t get that choice when they were doing a resit. I could not afford to keep them if they weren’t earning. (Back then - the younger ones had an easier path in that sense, but no1 had to get a job because bills had to be paid)

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 13:12

KidsDoBetter · 17/08/2026 13:05

This can’t be real? You said he had 2 x As and 1 x A* in the other thread.

Your story keeps changing.

What was his offer from Oxford. And was it E&M. What was his TSA score???

Yeah he has had a remark as he was a few marks off. He did not meet offer for his FM we still haven’t heard back. He didn’t apply for econ and maths at Oxford he had 5 uni choice applied for different courses variations. He did STEP & MAT plus the interview he did not take the TSA it’s not required.

OP posts:
Minasama · 17/08/2026 13:13

Don’t worry OP - in a year or two or 5 none of this will matter. Life is not fair, we don’t always get what we want, but being able to accept that and move forward constructively is the most valuable skill there is in life. He’s a bright boy and he’ll be fine.

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 13:15

KidsDoBetter · 17/08/2026 13:09

also within that time organised about 5 gap year activities for said child. Wow!

5 gap years ? He only wants to take this year. I mean come on he lost a close friend to suicide. He shouldn’t be punished for my my behaviour and rants I have admitted a parent I was wrong on my views on contextual offers

OP posts:
Taztoy · 17/08/2026 13:15

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 13:15

5 gap years ? He only wants to take this year. I mean come on he lost a close friend to suicide. He shouldn’t be punished for my my behaviour and rants I have admitted a parent I was wrong on my views on contextual offers

Gap year activities the pp said. Not 5 gap years.

Taztoy · 17/08/2026 13:17

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 13:15

5 gap years ? He only wants to take this year. I mean come on he lost a close friend to suicide. He shouldn’t be punished for my my behaviour and rants I have admitted a parent I was wrong on my views on contextual offers

I am sorry about his friends suicide.

Dependsoncontext · 17/08/2026 13:17

ProudCat · 17/08/2026 10:54

Teacher here, working in a really deprived area / school. Top 10% in the country.

I have a kid predicted 3 x A*. Would love to take the credit but frankly it's all their own work. Literally a sub-genius.

I asked them about Oxford / Cambridge. Not interested. Reasons given, doesn't want to be surrounded by 'those sort of people'.

That's such a shame for them but I totally get it.

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 17/08/2026 13:17

The issue wasn't about your DS. It was, because despite having all the privilege in the world, you resented people less fortunate than yourself for being able to get contextual offers. (Your ' friends' would not have got offers just by mistake ving from private to state for 6th form) So you thought that they were ' gaming the system' by not paying for public school. If you hadn't whined about poor people getting leg ups over very your obviously far more deserving and precious DS the thread would have gone differently.

Wigeon · 17/08/2026 13:20

I didn't read the original thread, but I'm also really confused. So his offer was presumably A, A star A star. He got A, A, A star. You have already had one re-mark result back which gives him A, A star, A star, and so he has in fact achieved his offer.

Oxford will definitely hold your place if you tell them you are going for a remark, and if you achieve your offer following the remark, then you've got the place.

However, despite OP's DS having achieved his offer following the remark, he's turned it down anyway, and would rather go through the massive faff of re-applying, than take-up the Oxford offer which he has now just met grades for??

Why?

KidsDoBetter · 17/08/2026 13:20

Yeah 5 gap year activities .. not 5 gap years.

I am so so confused. He now has two A*s and an A but didn’t wait for Oxford to give him his place.

All so utterly bizarre ….

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 13:21

Wigeon · 17/08/2026 13:20

I didn't read the original thread, but I'm also really confused. So his offer was presumably A, A star A star. He got A, A, A star. You have already had one re-mark result back which gives him A, A star, A star, and so he has in fact achieved his offer.

Oxford will definitely hold your place if you tell them you are going for a remark, and if you achieve your offer following the remark, then you've got the place.

However, despite OP's DS having achieved his offer following the remark, he's turned it down anyway, and would rather go through the massive faff of re-applying, than take-up the Oxford offer which he has now just met grades for??

Why?

We haven’t received FM remark. He needs an A star.

OP posts:
KidsDoBetter · 17/08/2026 13:22

Wigeon · 17/08/2026 13:20

I didn't read the original thread, but I'm also really confused. So his offer was presumably A, A star A star. He got A, A, A star. You have already had one re-mark result back which gives him A, A star, A star, and so he has in fact achieved his offer.

Oxford will definitely hold your place if you tell them you are going for a remark, and if you achieve your offer following the remark, then you've got the place.

However, despite OP's DS having achieved his offer following the remark, he's turned it down anyway, and would rather go through the massive faff of re-applying, than take-up the Oxford offer which he has now just met grades for??

Why?

Apparently because he had a night out planned and she wanted him to go for food. And he’s the only 17 year old without a fake ID ….

WolfFoxHare · 17/08/2026 13:23

I read your previous thread, and all your posts in this one and I can't see how he's gone from 1 A star and 2 As in your original thread to 2 A stars and 1 As already? Has the re-mark been completed already?

stayathomegardener · 17/08/2026 13:24

I think your son should accept Durham as your friend suggested and escape all this manufactured drama.

Yes he says it wouldn’t suit him but it must have been his insurance choice for a reason, so far he doesn’t seem to be making terribly rational decisions.
I bet he would have a fantastic time there.

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 13:24

He has not the oxford offer. He still needs the Further Maths grade we are yet to receive the remark.

OP posts:
viques · 17/08/2026 13:24

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:38

We had access to the grace boundaries he was under 5 marks off. His school thought it was worth it and it’s worked out well for one of them. The other might not be an A star he will survive. He’s over it now says he wants to just research unis better and has learnt his lesson hopefully next time he will have another outcome whereby even if he doesn’t get his firm, he will like his insurance choice.

We have had lengthy conversations with him. Not sure how many 17 year olds can deal with the grief of their friend taking their own lives and also focus on exams. At his age u would have broken down and shut myself away but we are different he’s far more resilient than I am and people make mistakes, he’s 17 I would like to give my son grace. We are proud of him, he’s engaged very well even with his results he’s got in touch with his therapist he was very proud of himself nonetheless.

One thing I would say to you is not to keep referring to the very sad death of his friend as a reason for his exam results. I don’t know if you reference this irl but you are certainly bringing it up a lot on here.

Yes, it is a terrible thing to have happened. And it also happened to his other friends, and the deceased friends other friends and possibly cousins or other young relations who were also sitting exams this summer. But I don’t , nor do you, know if it affected their results. Many young people sitting public examinations go through awful traumatic incidents and experiences , illnesses, accidents , deaths of family members etc , the examination boards are well aware of these, and if informed will take it under serious consideration if for example a student is unable to sit all the papers required in a subject or to complete a particular paper. And exam boards will be in contact and work with schools sympathetically if the young persons results seem to be very out of kilter with previous expectations, course work etc. But most of the time, and I used to work for an exam board, the differences are usually so very marginal that it is impossible to tell if the results for papers completed under normal examination conditions were not simply due to a bad day at the office, a failure to make their arguments in essay answers, simple errors, poor time management, misreading of the exam rubric, or any other of the factors that lead to disappointing grades rather than a students frame of mind during the exam.

This is not to say that errors in marking don’t occur, but these are obviously a completely different matter to claims that a student was disadvantaged by particular circumstance.

If you continue to claim the death of his friend as the reason your son didn’t achieve his results you are doing a damaging thing. You are using someone’s death as an excuse, which is morally abhorrent, and is not the way you want your son even subliminally remember his friend. This is unfair both to your son and to his friends memory, especially since it seems that his grade reductions were actually as a result of examiner error not your sons grief.

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