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Update: to feel as though contextual offers are unfair

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YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 09:41

Update regarding this
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5567476-aibu-to-feel-contextual-offers-are-unfair-after-my-sons-results?callback=in&code=YTYYNJU0NZUTMJAZMY0ZY2RKLWE5NZQTNTY4ZDRLYZQ2YTU3&reply=154196625&state=efb9c2356e9442fe90af05997d0b47e9

Hi,
I posted here yesterday about my son and stopped responding because, to be honest, I was hurt for him and I think my post came across as ridiculous. I didn’t say he was the hardest working boy in the world, but he is hardworking, and as his mum I’m obviously going to think that my son is hardworking whether that is true or not I base it on who he is, he’s spent majority of his life being very disciplined ie waking up early for rowing sessions etc.

He was rejected from Oxford because he didn’t meet the offer of 2 A stars and an A on results day. We understand that wholeheartedly he didn’t meet the offer case closed. He was accepted into Durham for economics and maths which unfortunately wasn’t the university he wanted. We’ve visited Durham he didn’t dislike it but it’s not the uni for him, he preferred other unis that weren’t oxford but declined their offers. We had been warned about the importance of his insurance choice and we did speak to him about it, but I suppose he was a little arrogant about it all. He’s certainly learnt his lesson now.

We did submit his for remarks because, looking at the grade boundaries, he was very close to getting 3 A stars only two marks off one on one of his subjects. Which is why he was near miss, on results day he was in a waiting pool essentially on hold. We’re still waiting for the Further Maths remark, but that was a few more marks off but we are willing to risk it so he may not even need to resit anything, but we’ll see.
The school isn’t against resits plenty of students resit all the time a friend of ours their son resat last year as he missed on one of his subject and the remark didn’t change. He’s off to uni this year having achieved the grades required. Sometimes students have mitigating circumstances that affect how they do on their exams in May/June.

Either way, he now has 2 A stars and an A. He is a hardworking boy, like so many other students, and this year has also been incredibly difficult for him as he lost someone very close to him, which affected him a lot. I think it’s tough for anyone who has lost a someone they’re close to, to suicide no one knows how they’d deal with that. I sympathise with my son, he did his best whilst also attending therapy we are super proud of him.

We’re going to look around Edinburgh on their open day and see what he thinks as we recently visited the city and he liked it a lot. He is still applying to Oxford again at least this time he has actual grades not predicted, they apply early so he’ll have time to make decisions if he doesn’t get an offer this time. Last time he got an interview and smashed it but he knows he might not get an interview. He has the grades and can do economics so it’s simply a case of whether he gets an interview and, if he does, how it goes. Oxford is incredibly competitive and, honestly, he was lucky to get an interview and get as far as he did last time. There are so many incredibly bright children applying, and there will always be people who are just as bright, if not brighter, than him.

He’s happy to take the gap year anyway. He wants to work for a while as he’s working in an art gallery and throughly enjoying it then hopefully do some travelling, lots of his friends are taking gap years anyway. His girlfriend was always planning to take a gap year, work and travel, so he’ll probably join her.

I do understand how privileged we are. Saying that we want the best for our child doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate that other parents want exactly the same for theirs. We know we’re very lucky to have had the means to send our children to private school. My original post was a typo filled rant not exactly thinking and looking back, it was definitely a privileged rant. That wasn’t my intention, but I can see how it came across that way, and for that I genuinely apologise.

Ultimately I’m just happy for my son he has been through a lot this academic year I think he should just chill and have fun. Those grades are his and he can do whatever he wants with them. We’ve had a long chat about everything a few tears from me and DH nearly got teary we are just so proud of him. He knows that, even if it isn’t Oxford, he has plenty of options. With 2 A*s and an A, regardless of what happens with the FM remark. He can apply to so many excellent universities and doesn’t need to rely on predicted grades. Other than Oxford and Cambridge, lots of universities don’t require an interview. He’s applied for two courses some unis only maths other econ and maths which is what he wants to study anyway.

People saying maybe he’s not that clever because he missed his offer…. You might be right.

He’ll be applying with achieved grades this time rather than predicted grades, so whatever happens he will be fine. His mocks he achieved 3 A stars but this was before his friends passing. He has now got 2 A stars and hopefully this other remark is a success if not that’s fine. His school did let us know that Oxford do take into account mitigating circumstances but our son did not want that associated with his application so no mention of that to either of the universities. He just wanted to focus on revision at the time. I think a gap year is a good idea he’ll have time to think, and reflect on things beyond just education maybe come October time he might not even want to apply to oxford. He’s said he’s going to have a big think after the lengthy conversation.

He’s a privileged boy and maybe I haven’t done the best job at making sure he knows that since this is his first set back in life but he is 17 he will learn and has lots more time for set backs. We will keep guiding him and make better decisions as parents all I can do is try to do even better with his younger siblings in terms of then knowing their privileges.

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Stormyseasallround · 17/08/2026 09:48

The thing you’re still not recognising is that while he may well be very hard working, he is not as hard working as Chantelle. She also got A grades, but couldn’t join a rowing team because her state comp in a deprived area didn’t have one. They did have a girls’ football team but she couldn’t join it because her mum is disabled, and she had to leave school bang on time every day to collect her little sister from school. On an evening she found it hard to study because she shared a bedroom with two siblings so didn’t have anywhere quiet to study. On a Saturday and Sunday she had to work in a part time job because, since her mum fell ill and her dad left them, money is really tight and she has to chip her wages in to keep the family afloat. So she wasn’t able to study much then either. Despite ALL of this, she still got the same grades as your son and therefore some universities made her a contextual offer based on it because let’s face it, Chantelle is a genius to still get those grades despite all of the adversity she’s faced, and she deserves a bit of a break in life.

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 09:51

Stormyseasallround · 17/08/2026 09:48

The thing you’re still not recognising is that while he may well be very hard working, he is not as hard working as Chantelle. She also got A grades, but couldn’t join a rowing team because her state comp in a deprived area didn’t have one. They did have a girls’ football team but she couldn’t join it because her mum is disabled, and she had to leave school bang on time every day to collect her little sister from school. On an evening she found it hard to study because she shared a bedroom with two siblings so didn’t have anywhere quiet to study. On a Saturday and Sunday she had to work in a part time job because, since her mum fell ill and her dad left them, money is really tight and she has to chip her wages in to keep the family afloat. So she wasn’t able to study much then either. Despite ALL of this, she still got the same grades as your son and therefore some universities made her a contextual offer based on it because let’s face it, Chantelle is a genius to still get those grades despite all of the adversity she’s faced, and she deserves a bit of a break in life.

Amazing for her. My son isn’t the brightest but we he was close to the 3 A stars which is why the school has submitted for the remarks so we will wait for the third one to get remarked and see if might still just be an A and he can decide what he’d like to do.

I’ve said my view on contextual offers wasn’t correct I have apologised. I know nothing about them to be honest I was just ranting and it was wrong.

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LaurieFairyCake · 17/08/2026 09:51

Can’t he just go through clearing? Is there no spaces at unis he wants? There’s a lot of movement over the next 2 weeks with people shifting around.

McSpoot · 17/08/2026 09:53

I’ve said my view on contextual offers wasn’t correct I have apologised. I know nothing about them to be honest I was just ranting and it was wrong.

Actually, you didn't. You acknowledged it was a rant, but mainly you just told us about how great your son is and his new plans.

sadeyedladyofthelowlands63 · 17/08/2026 09:54

Thank you for updating! This is a very measured and sensible post.
A level results day is often very traumatic (40 odd years ago I didn't get into my first choice and told my parents through a wall of tears that I didn't care and would get a job in McDonald's* - luckily they eventually persuaded me otherwise 😂).

Wishing you and your son all the best for the future.

*obviously nothing wrong with McDonald's, but it would not have been a good choice for me at the time!

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 09:56

McSpoot · 17/08/2026 09:53

I’ve said my view on contextual offers wasn’t correct I have apologised. I know nothing about them to be honest I was just ranting and it was wrong.

Actually, you didn't. You acknowledged it was a rant, but mainly you just told us about how great your son is and his new plans.

Edited

I have said I was 100% in the wrong and I have apologised.

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RVectensian · 17/08/2026 09:56

I think the main bone of contention was your assertion that 'kids whose parents who wanted the best for them were discriminated against'. I'm glad you can now see how offensive and inaccurate that is.

ShowOfHands · 17/08/2026 09:57

I'm glad you're beginning to see the privilege you have and the need for contextual offers.

I work in a deprived secondary and the uphill struggle some students face just to be in school, isn't something you can probably imagine.

Codfg · 17/08/2026 09:57

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 09:41

Update regarding this
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5567476-aibu-to-feel-contextual-offers-are-unfair-after-my-sons-results?callback=in&code=YTYYNJU0NZUTMJAZMY0ZY2RKLWE5NZQTNTY4ZDRLYZQ2YTU3&reply=154196625&state=efb9c2356e9442fe90af05997d0b47e9

Hi,
I posted here yesterday about my son and stopped responding because, to be honest, I was hurt for him and I think my post came across as ridiculous. I didn’t say he was the hardest working boy in the world, but he is hardworking, and as his mum I’m obviously going to think that my son is hardworking whether that is true or not I base it on who he is, he’s spent majority of his life being very disciplined ie waking up early for rowing sessions etc.

He was rejected from Oxford because he didn’t meet the offer of 2 A stars and an A on results day. We understand that wholeheartedly he didn’t meet the offer case closed. He was accepted into Durham for economics and maths which unfortunately wasn’t the university he wanted. We’ve visited Durham he didn’t dislike it but it’s not the uni for him, he preferred other unis that weren’t oxford but declined their offers. We had been warned about the importance of his insurance choice and we did speak to him about it, but I suppose he was a little arrogant about it all. He’s certainly learnt his lesson now.

We did submit his for remarks because, looking at the grade boundaries, he was very close to getting 3 A stars only two marks off one on one of his subjects. Which is why he was near miss, on results day he was in a waiting pool essentially on hold. We’re still waiting for the Further Maths remark, but that was a few more marks off but we are willing to risk it so he may not even need to resit anything, but we’ll see.
The school isn’t against resits plenty of students resit all the time a friend of ours their son resat last year as he missed on one of his subject and the remark didn’t change. He’s off to uni this year having achieved the grades required. Sometimes students have mitigating circumstances that affect how they do on their exams in May/June.

Either way, he now has 2 A stars and an A. He is a hardworking boy, like so many other students, and this year has also been incredibly difficult for him as he lost someone very close to him, which affected him a lot. I think it’s tough for anyone who has lost a someone they’re close to, to suicide no one knows how they’d deal with that. I sympathise with my son, he did his best whilst also attending therapy we are super proud of him.

We’re going to look around Edinburgh on their open day and see what he thinks as we recently visited the city and he liked it a lot. He is still applying to Oxford again at least this time he has actual grades not predicted, they apply early so he’ll have time to make decisions if he doesn’t get an offer this time. Last time he got an interview and smashed it but he knows he might not get an interview. He has the grades and can do economics so it’s simply a case of whether he gets an interview and, if he does, how it goes. Oxford is incredibly competitive and, honestly, he was lucky to get an interview and get as far as he did last time. There are so many incredibly bright children applying, and there will always be people who are just as bright, if not brighter, than him.

He’s happy to take the gap year anyway. He wants to work for a while as he’s working in an art gallery and throughly enjoying it then hopefully do some travelling, lots of his friends are taking gap years anyway. His girlfriend was always planning to take a gap year, work and travel, so he’ll probably join her.

I do understand how privileged we are. Saying that we want the best for our child doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate that other parents want exactly the same for theirs. We know we’re very lucky to have had the means to send our children to private school. My original post was a typo filled rant not exactly thinking and looking back, it was definitely a privileged rant. That wasn’t my intention, but I can see how it came across that way, and for that I genuinely apologise.

Ultimately I’m just happy for my son he has been through a lot this academic year I think he should just chill and have fun. Those grades are his and he can do whatever he wants with them. We’ve had a long chat about everything a few tears from me and DH nearly got teary we are just so proud of him. He knows that, even if it isn’t Oxford, he has plenty of options. With 2 A*s and an A, regardless of what happens with the FM remark. He can apply to so many excellent universities and doesn’t need to rely on predicted grades. Other than Oxford and Cambridge, lots of universities don’t require an interview. He’s applied for two courses some unis only maths other econ and maths which is what he wants to study anyway.

People saying maybe he’s not that clever because he missed his offer…. You might be right.

He’ll be applying with achieved grades this time rather than predicted grades, so whatever happens he will be fine. His mocks he achieved 3 A stars but this was before his friends passing. He has now got 2 A stars and hopefully this other remark is a success if not that’s fine. His school did let us know that Oxford do take into account mitigating circumstances but our son did not want that associated with his application so no mention of that to either of the universities. He just wanted to focus on revision at the time. I think a gap year is a good idea he’ll have time to think, and reflect on things beyond just education maybe come October time he might not even want to apply to oxford. He’s said he’s going to have a big think after the lengthy conversation.

He’s a privileged boy and maybe I haven’t done the best job at making sure he knows that since this is his first set back in life but he is 17 he will learn and has lots more time for set backs. We will keep guiding him and make better decisions as parents all I can do is try to do even better with his younger siblings in terms of then knowing their privileges.

So he had an offer for PPE or E&M at Oxford? Or maths? He could have just gone to LSE?

Twiglets1 · 17/08/2026 09:59

I didn't see your original thread but it sounds like you and your son have both benefitted from some reflection time. It's an emotional time when your child doesn't get into the uni they have their heart set on (I know because my daughter went through Clearing a few years ago).

A gap year sounds a very good idea if he does not feel enthusiastic about going to Durham. He will get some unconditional offers next year with his grades already known, and will have time to decide which unis he really would be enthusiastic about. He will learn from this set back and it won't define him - he will go to a great uni in the end and do very well I'm sure.

lovingthebeachlife · 17/08/2026 10:00

I never read your previous thread but WOW. however at least you have had the grace to recognise that you are privileged and wealthy enough to access family money to educate your dc.

Codfg · 17/08/2026 10:03

Or was it for Oxford maths?

OrangeFlower14 · 17/08/2026 10:03

This doesn’t look any different

He didn’t get the grades that they asked him to get lots of kids in the same position

Lampzade · 17/08/2026 10:04

I have’nt read your previous thread either , but at least you have admitted that contextual offers are necessary
I know a young lady who has benefited from this and she recently graduated with a first in a STEM subject from Bristol

Twiglets1 · 17/08/2026 10:04

Codfg · 17/08/2026 09:57

So he had an offer for PPE or E&M at Oxford? Or maths? He could have just gone to LSE?

LSE isn't for everyone. Some people prefer a more collegiate uni or one not in London. It's not all about graduate prospects, the young person also has to feel happy with where they are living as well as studying for the next 3 years.

shineyshoess · 17/08/2026 10:04

That's sensible. I am glad he isnt going to try and resit now. It's understandable to feel all kinds of things in the heat of the moment.

I decided I didn't want my first choice uni after results day, took a gap year and reapplied to new places with actual grades. It was the right thing for me. I had a fabulous gap year. Gained lots of work and travel experience. I hope your son has a great gap year and finds a university he is excited about.

But many many parents want the best for their children but can't even dream of affording private school. Many parents who value education just as much as you do send their children to state school

And I do feel that the most impressive are those children who get stellar grades even though they have grown up in a house that doesn't value education. Imagine the tenacity that takes.

Araminta1004 · 17/08/2026 10:06

Durham has like 40% privately educated kids now. It is probably a great place to network and have a good time and come out with a good degree. My DD has friends who got all A stars and were rejected from Oxbridge and ended up at Durham. After the initial disappointment and it being “too far”, they are all having a great time.

YoungerthanIfeel · 17/08/2026 10:06

I am now very curious what course he applied for. There isn't an economics degree or an economics and maths degree at Oxford. Did he go for PPE, Economics and Management, or History and Economics? I don't know anything about history, but there is a big difference between the first two options.
(Not really a relevant question, but it will help him to focus on what degree he actually wants to study when looking at options elsewhere).

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:07

No he didn’t get the grades originally he now has 2 A stars an A he was very close to the boundaries. He is 17, he had a friend commit suicide a few months before the exams after getting A stars throughout, give him a break! he’s tried his best. Yes he’s not the brightest but we are still proud of him whether it’s a few marks off or if he was 30 marks off we’d still be proud.

I have apologised for my post. Give him a break he’s not to blame for my actions on my previous post.

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SueKeeper · 17/08/2026 10:08

It's not often that people actually engage and admit they were wrong, so well done OP. Obviously you were lashing out at the turn your DSs life had taken but he is going to have a great life and he has everything going for him. Both Durham and Edinburgh are great universities, he has so many choices and has done so well.

I do want to point out that contextual offers aren't just theoretical, political and sympathy based. I ran analysis for our medical school about 15 years ago, when they were just starting to come in - looking at applications retrospectively and who later came out with honours and who dropped out. The kids getting As and Bs from deprived backgrounds, holding down a part time job on the side, were actually performing better at university than the straight A peers from very supportive, private schools. People are learning all the time and the kid with a harder life is learning resilience and time management and skills that help navigate university. Contextual offers are to recognise this really and it is self serving rather than charitable.

Be glad you DS hasn't had to learn any of these things the hard way and has had such a lovely life with such a supportive family. Good luck to whatever he does next.

HelenHywater · 17/08/2026 10:08

Look your son didn't get the grades he needed. That's it.

Oxford isn't going to say "oh it's ok he's a lovely, hardworking boy, let's let in in anyway"

I really don't think this is worth a second thread.

And yes, YABU about contextual offers.

shineyshoess · 17/08/2026 10:09

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:07

No he didn’t get the grades originally he now has 2 A stars an A he was very close to the boundaries. He is 17, he had a friend commit suicide a few months before the exams after getting A stars throughout, give him a break! he’s tried his best. Yes he’s not the brightest but we are still proud of him whether it’s a few marks off or if he was 30 marks off we’d still be proud.

I have apologised for my post. Give him a break he’s not to blame for my actions on my previous post.

If he's been through the trauma of losing a friend then it's probably best he takes a decent gap year anyway. I also lost a close friend in my a level year, we all took a gap year. I think we needed it.

bridgetreilly · 17/08/2026 10:10

It still makes no sense. He didn’t get the grades but now he has?

OrangeFlower14 · 17/08/2026 10:10

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:07

No he didn’t get the grades originally he now has 2 A stars an A he was very close to the boundaries. He is 17, he had a friend commit suicide a few months before the exams after getting A stars throughout, give him a break! he’s tried his best. Yes he’s not the brightest but we are still proud of him whether it’s a few marks off or if he was 30 marks off we’d still be proud.

I have apologised for my post. Give him a break he’s not to blame for my actions on my previous post.

I don’t need to give him a break, you do
You said he wasn’t the brightest, but what he’s done is fucking amazing
What you’ve done is just moan when the reality is that he didn’t get the grades for this onething
I wasn’t on your other thread I read it but I didn’t comment because I know you’re upset but here you are again going off point and I just don’t get it. He didn’t get the grades and I don’t know how you turn that into a complaint about other stuff

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:12

HelenHywater · 17/08/2026 10:08

Look your son didn't get the grades he needed. That's it.

Oxford isn't going to say "oh it's ok he's a lovely, hardworking boy, let's let in in anyway"

I really don't think this is worth a second thread.

And yes, YABU about contextual offers.

Agree we haven’t disagreed with Oxford decision. He didn’t meet the offer. We are waiting for one more remark he was 4 marks off so we shall see. If it does go up then he’ll meet the offer and can apply next year no resits requires. He might not get an interview again but the application is much earlier so he can shuffle his choices come January time anyway.

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