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Update: to feel as though contextual offers are unfair

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YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 09:41

Update regarding this
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Hi,
I posted here yesterday about my son and stopped responding because, to be honest, I was hurt for him and I think my post came across as ridiculous. I didn’t say he was the hardest working boy in the world, but he is hardworking, and as his mum I’m obviously going to think that my son is hardworking whether that is true or not I base it on who he is, he’s spent majority of his life being very disciplined ie waking up early for rowing sessions etc.

He was rejected from Oxford because he didn’t meet the offer of 2 A stars and an A on results day. We understand that wholeheartedly he didn’t meet the offer case closed. He was accepted into Durham for economics and maths which unfortunately wasn’t the university he wanted. We’ve visited Durham he didn’t dislike it but it’s not the uni for him, he preferred other unis that weren’t oxford but declined their offers. We had been warned about the importance of his insurance choice and we did speak to him about it, but I suppose he was a little arrogant about it all. He’s certainly learnt his lesson now.

We did submit his for remarks because, looking at the grade boundaries, he was very close to getting 3 A stars only two marks off one on one of his subjects. Which is why he was near miss, on results day he was in a waiting pool essentially on hold. We’re still waiting for the Further Maths remark, but that was a few more marks off but we are willing to risk it so he may not even need to resit anything, but we’ll see.
The school isn’t against resits plenty of students resit all the time a friend of ours their son resat last year as he missed on one of his subject and the remark didn’t change. He’s off to uni this year having achieved the grades required. Sometimes students have mitigating circumstances that affect how they do on their exams in May/June.

Either way, he now has 2 A stars and an A. He is a hardworking boy, like so many other students, and this year has also been incredibly difficult for him as he lost someone very close to him, which affected him a lot. I think it’s tough for anyone who has lost a someone they’re close to, to suicide no one knows how they’d deal with that. I sympathise with my son, he did his best whilst also attending therapy we are super proud of him.

We’re going to look around Edinburgh on their open day and see what he thinks as we recently visited the city and he liked it a lot. He is still applying to Oxford again at least this time he has actual grades not predicted, they apply early so he’ll have time to make decisions if he doesn’t get an offer this time. Last time he got an interview and smashed it but he knows he might not get an interview. He has the grades and can do economics so it’s simply a case of whether he gets an interview and, if he does, how it goes. Oxford is incredibly competitive and, honestly, he was lucky to get an interview and get as far as he did last time. There are so many incredibly bright children applying, and there will always be people who are just as bright, if not brighter, than him.

He’s happy to take the gap year anyway. He wants to work for a while as he’s working in an art gallery and throughly enjoying it then hopefully do some travelling, lots of his friends are taking gap years anyway. His girlfriend was always planning to take a gap year, work and travel, so he’ll probably join her.

I do understand how privileged we are. Saying that we want the best for our child doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate that other parents want exactly the same for theirs. We know we’re very lucky to have had the means to send our children to private school. My original post was a typo filled rant not exactly thinking and looking back, it was definitely a privileged rant. That wasn’t my intention, but I can see how it came across that way, and for that I genuinely apologise.

Ultimately I’m just happy for my son he has been through a lot this academic year I think he should just chill and have fun. Those grades are his and he can do whatever he wants with them. We’ve had a long chat about everything a few tears from me and DH nearly got teary we are just so proud of him. He knows that, even if it isn’t Oxford, he has plenty of options. With 2 A*s and an A, regardless of what happens with the FM remark. He can apply to so many excellent universities and doesn’t need to rely on predicted grades. Other than Oxford and Cambridge, lots of universities don’t require an interview. He’s applied for two courses some unis only maths other econ and maths which is what he wants to study anyway.

People saying maybe he’s not that clever because he missed his offer…. You might be right.

He’ll be applying with achieved grades this time rather than predicted grades, so whatever happens he will be fine. His mocks he achieved 3 A stars but this was before his friends passing. He has now got 2 A stars and hopefully this other remark is a success if not that’s fine. His school did let us know that Oxford do take into account mitigating circumstances but our son did not want that associated with his application so no mention of that to either of the universities. He just wanted to focus on revision at the time. I think a gap year is a good idea he’ll have time to think, and reflect on things beyond just education maybe come October time he might not even want to apply to oxford. He’s said he’s going to have a big think after the lengthy conversation.

He’s a privileged boy and maybe I haven’t done the best job at making sure he knows that since this is his first set back in life but he is 17 he will learn and has lots more time for set backs. We will keep guiding him and make better decisions as parents all I can do is try to do even better with his younger siblings in terms of then knowing their privileges.

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PancakeCloud · 17/08/2026 11:31

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:28

I know I was just punching now and I have apologised it was a stupid rant.

Ah got it, missed this. Hope all works out well for you and your son. Although he missed his offer he got a fantastic result overall so am sure he will have plenty of excellent options.

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:31

Threetyy · 17/08/2026 11:30

That’s another way to say get onto clearing!

Not for any of the unis he originally declined and any variation of econ and maths is popular. He is born in August he’s not even 18 yet some of his classmates will be much older than him based on birthdays I think a gap year is the right call anyway.

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Hayleylulljah · 17/08/2026 11:33

Why aren’t Oxford holding his place pending remark? They usually do. My niece had a hairy time waiting and she’s heading into 2nd year there soon.

Heronwatcher · 17/08/2026 11:33

Remarks exist for a reason the stats and evidence say the first marking is only usually about 80%

What does this mean/ where did you get this from? I’d be really wary about passing this on to your son as I am not sure it’s correct. Honestly you just need to take a step back and chill out whilst you wait for the outcome of the re-mark. Can’t you go out for the day/ go to the beach or something?

SarahMused · 17/08/2026 11:34

If his offer was 2A* and an A and he now has this via a remark, why won’t Oxford honour his place?

Threetyy · 17/08/2026 11:37

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:31

Not for any of the unis he originally declined and any variation of econ and maths is popular. He is born in August he’s not even 18 yet some of his classmates will be much older than him based on birthdays I think a gap year is the right call anyway.

There’s thousands of uni degrees. Plenty related to standard economics maths which might be even more specialised.

If you accept through clearing I think you can then defer. So atleast you have something in the bag.

It’s late now but it’s worth a look. Half the uni courses most people don’t even know exist. I certainly didn’t know mine did and it’s served me very well.

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:38

Heronwatcher · 17/08/2026 11:33

Remarks exist for a reason the stats and evidence say the first marking is only usually about 80%

What does this mean/ where did you get this from? I’d be really wary about passing this on to your son as I am not sure it’s correct. Honestly you just need to take a step back and chill out whilst you wait for the outcome of the re-mark. Can’t you go out for the day/ go to the beach or something?

We had access to the grace boundaries he was under 5 marks off. His school thought it was worth it and it’s worked out well for one of them. The other might not be an A star he will survive. He’s over it now says he wants to just research unis better and has learnt his lesson hopefully next time he will have another outcome whereby even if he doesn’t get his firm, he will like his insurance choice.

We have had lengthy conversations with him. Not sure how many 17 year olds can deal with the grief of their friend taking their own lives and also focus on exams. At his age u would have broken down and shut myself away but we are different he’s far more resilient than I am and people make mistakes, he’s 17 I would like to give my son grace. We are proud of him, he’s engaged very well even with his results he’s got in touch with his therapist he was very proud of himself nonetheless.

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YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:40

Hayleylulljah · 17/08/2026 11:33

Why aren’t Oxford holding his place pending remark? They usually do. My niece had a hairy time waiting and she’s heading into 2nd year there soon.

Because we decided to just let it go at the time and not bother.

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poodlemum01 · 17/08/2026 11:40

I sympathise OP @YourWaryHam as we had a similar situation last year although not oxford.

We're in Scotland and DD had applied to 5 universities to study a certain subject. Due to widening participation / contextual offers, her school bully got a conditional offer with lower grades than DD got and DD got rejected (same course). All because of postcodes - school bully has a nice house, with more rooms than us, but its in a non desirable area.

DD did what it appears your DS did - pinned all her hopes on that one university as it was 'the best' for her subject and her friends were going there. We took her to other open days but she would call us after half an hour saying she'd seen all she needed to see and could we pick her up - I did warn her but she didn't listen.

well she got 2 conditionals 2 rejections and 1 unconditional - which she ended up accepting. She has made no friends as yet and is unhappy but understands its a means to an end - its the type of degree where every graduate gets a job due to demand. Fortunately she commutes in so still sees her local friends.

the postcode thing p*ssed me off - it seems so unfair and what made it more upsetting is that DD should have met the contexual criteria anyway as she's a young carer. I think the postcode is easier for universities to check though.

hotsocks27 · 17/08/2026 11:43

Heronwatcher · 17/08/2026 11:33

Remarks exist for a reason the stats and evidence say the first marking is only usually about 80%

What does this mean/ where did you get this from? I’d be really wary about passing this on to your son as I am not sure it’s correct. Honestly you just need to take a step back and chill out whilst you wait for the outcome of the re-mark. Can’t you go out for the day/ go to the beach or something?

The 80% statistic has been misused here. (Exam marker here). Markers are expected to have a minimum accuracy of 80% in random checks on marking on a particular question, and if found to be at 80%, to improve accuracy on subsequent marking.

It does not mean that marking is 80% accurate overall. Ofqual data shows that at paper review, 55% of papers have been marked at 100% accuracy, and the rest are overwhelmingly 2 marks or less out, on papers that could be worth 90 marks or more.

Heronwatcher · 17/08/2026 11:44

Remarks exist for a reason the stats and evidence say the first marking is only usually about 80%

What I was asking was what does this mean- that on the first marking only 80% of marks are awarded, or that 80% of re-marked papers end up changing grade? Or something else?

Great that your son has started looking at other options though, that’s exactly the right thing to do. This, and not having an insurance option he actually wanted, may well have taught him a really valuable lesson.

BerryTwister · 17/08/2026 11:44

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:40

Because we decided to just let it go at the time and not bother.

@YourWaryHam why doesn’t he approach Oxford now he’s got the required grades, and see if he can secure a place for next year. Then there’ll be no stress, no retakes, he can earn some money, do some hobbies, and go to Oxford next year.

Hayleylulljah · 17/08/2026 11:45

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:40

Because we decided to just let it go at the time and not bother.

Wow. That’s absolutely wild.

Anjo2011 · 17/08/2026 11:45

I think you are getting a hard time and don’t deserve the pile on you are getting. I think there is a lesson in your experience and you’ve acknowledged that. The majority of parents are invested in their kids education and want the best for them. It’s an extremely stressful time and you can see the amount of work they have put in. My DD didn’t get her first choice and was inconsolable on results day. She has an excellent option to go to still and has accepted it, but is still disappointed that she didn’t get her first choice. As someone said this is a life lesson and we don’t always get what we want however hard we work. We have to move on and make the best of what is available. Your DS has done amazingly well, everything will turn out for the best in the end. Best wishes OP

Heronwatcher · 17/08/2026 11:46

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:40

Because we decided to just let it go at the time and not bother.

Having already requested 2 reviews? And/ or already having received one higher grade back?

Yeah I still have no idea what’s going on.

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:49

Hayleylulljah · 17/08/2026 11:45

Wow. That’s absolutely wild.

It was a tough day for him and I think he just wanted to relax and go for food with his friends he can’t even legally drink he’s counting the days till he’s 18 has a night out planned with his friends. DH and I are not bothered what uni he chooses as long as that is where he wants to go it’s his decision we met him decide at the end of the day it is his academic life we can on my guide.

I think it was a blessing in disguise he will be less arrogant and a gap year is a good idea for him anyway.

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SarahMused · 17/08/2026 11:52

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:40

Because we decided to just let it go at the time and not bother.

This was a massive mistake if he didn’t want to go to his insurance and you were planning to get a remark. They would have held the place if you had requested a priority remark. You basically turned down what was a certain place for applying next year with all the uncertainty that brings.

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:52

Heronwatcher · 17/08/2026 11:46

Having already requested 2 reviews? And/ or already having received one higher grade back?

Yeah I still have no idea what’s going on.

I am not going to force my son. It was his day and he has been through a lot the last 7 months. Yes he might not get another offer for oxford he will be fine life goes on. He even said that himself the world isn’t going to stop. Very different attitude to how he was after he got through the interview.

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Dilemma999 · 17/08/2026 11:53

My dc got 11 x 9 GCSE’s and 4 x A star (state school) and didn’t get an Oxford offer. They were not as confident at interview as their friends who weren’t quite as academic. Thems the breaks unfortunately. Your dc has lots of options but will be feeling a bit dejected as will you. Thank your lucky stars he has the option for you to pay to have his results reviewed and to support him in a gap year whilst he reapplies. He really is lucky and privileged.

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:54

SarahMused · 17/08/2026 11:52

This was a massive mistake if he didn’t want to go to his insurance and you were planning to get a remark. They would have held the place if you had requested a priority remark. You basically turned down what was a certain place for applying next year with all the uncertainty that brings.

It’s his life not mine. He’s since over the oxford saga. He will apply again next year and we shall see this time he’ll be applying with achieved grades.

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EstherGreenwood63 · 17/08/2026 11:58

EnjoythemoneyJane · 17/08/2026 10:31

My son isn’t the brightest but we he was close to the 3 A stars

And he got those because he’s been hot-housed in a privileged system based on your income. Private schools exist to prise the best results out of even the most dullard children of the rich, and those kids are supported by ambitious parents who know how to play the system.

If he still didn’t work hard enough to get the results he needed, even with such a loaded springboard, then he could do with some time out to reflect on that. Working in an art gallery and taking a Gap Yah are a very easy fallback for an incredibly privileged and - as you say yourself - arrogant child who’s wasted the very rarefied opportunities afforded to him. Maybe a year of something a bit more like actual work will give him a different perspective.

You say you understand your initial position was misguided but isn’t that mainly because you’ve had your arse handed to you? Your latest post reads like a stream of consciousness about your wonderful son, rather than a genuine acknowledgment that vast numbers of bright, talented hardworking kids, in a system that’s fully loaded against them, deserve the minor adjustments that might give them access to a world-class education.

An education of the type you and your son take completely and utterly for granted, to the extent of moaning on here that it’s sooo unfair when he fucks up and doesn’t get handed the silver spoon your investment dictates he’s entitled to.

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👏🏼 What they said. ⬆️

WallowingInMud · 17/08/2026 12:00

Lots of kids get four A star's and don't get into Oxford. Most just get on with their lives and have good ones.

Not all of them have a privileged upbringing and the arrogance to believe they will get in to their top choice. This is the problem your son had and for you to have blamed it on anything other than this is a mistake.

However lots of people have no clue what disadvantaged students have to get through to achieve the same as their more advantaged peers so your ignorance is not unusual. It is just depressing.

hotsocks27 · 17/08/2026 12:01

Heronwatcher · 17/08/2026 11:44

Remarks exist for a reason the stats and evidence say the first marking is only usually about 80%

What I was asking was what does this mean- that on the first marking only 80% of marks are awarded, or that 80% of re-marked papers end up changing grade? Or something else?

Great that your son has started looking at other options though, that’s exactly the right thing to do. This, and not having an insurance option he actually wanted, may well have taught him a really valuable lesson.

It doesn't mean either of those things. Why would only 80% of marks be awarded?!

Markers are trained on a mark scheme and then start marking and their work is checked my a senior examiner at various stages. It has to be 80% accurate minimum per question. So a marker may have 100% accuracy on 8 questions and less than 100% on 3 others. Less than 80% means they would get extra supervision and could be stopped from marking on that question. 80% means they are allowed to continue.

A very small number of papers have some inaccuracies in marking,and most of the time, it's 1 or 2 marks out, which makes it 98-99% accurate.

All papers are fully marked. Ofqual data shows that only 20-25% of reviews lead to a change of grade, and that most of those are for candidates who were one mark short-. .

feellikeanalien · 17/08/2026 12:04

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:31

Not for any of the unis he originally declined and any variation of econ and maths is popular. He is born in August he’s not even 18 yet some of his classmates will be much older than him based on birthdays I think a gap year is the right call anyway.

I totally agree OP. I went to school in Scotland and attended an English uni when I had only just turned 17.

This was many years ago but, with hindsight, I should have stayed on for an extra year at school. Of course at that age you are keen to strike out on your own so won't listen.to anyone who tries to tell you otherwise.

I didn't do as well at uni as I could have and I think a lot of that was down to lack of maturity. Most of my fellow students were at least a year older if not 2 or 3.

GreenCandies · 17/08/2026 12:04

Is there away unis can crack down on people that attend private schools then switch to grammer six forms for uni applications

As this does feel like playing the system

Mind you I don't agree with Welsh and Scottish kids getting more help than English kids

The system needs an overhaul

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