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Update: to feel as though contextual offers are unfair

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YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 09:41

Update regarding this
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5567476-aibu-to-feel-contextual-offers-are-unfair-after-my-sons-results?callback=in&code=YTYYNJU0NZUTMJAZMY0ZY2RKLWE5NZQTNTY4ZDRLYZQ2YTU3&reply=154196625&state=efb9c2356e9442fe90af05997d0b47e9

Hi,
I posted here yesterday about my son and stopped responding because, to be honest, I was hurt for him and I think my post came across as ridiculous. I didn’t say he was the hardest working boy in the world, but he is hardworking, and as his mum I’m obviously going to think that my son is hardworking whether that is true or not I base it on who he is, he’s spent majority of his life being very disciplined ie waking up early for rowing sessions etc.

He was rejected from Oxford because he didn’t meet the offer of 2 A stars and an A on results day. We understand that wholeheartedly he didn’t meet the offer case closed. He was accepted into Durham for economics and maths which unfortunately wasn’t the university he wanted. We’ve visited Durham he didn’t dislike it but it’s not the uni for him, he preferred other unis that weren’t oxford but declined their offers. We had been warned about the importance of his insurance choice and we did speak to him about it, but I suppose he was a little arrogant about it all. He’s certainly learnt his lesson now.

We did submit his for remarks because, looking at the grade boundaries, he was very close to getting 3 A stars only two marks off one on one of his subjects. Which is why he was near miss, on results day he was in a waiting pool essentially on hold. We’re still waiting for the Further Maths remark, but that was a few more marks off but we are willing to risk it so he may not even need to resit anything, but we’ll see.
The school isn’t against resits plenty of students resit all the time a friend of ours their son resat last year as he missed on one of his subject and the remark didn’t change. He’s off to uni this year having achieved the grades required. Sometimes students have mitigating circumstances that affect how they do on their exams in May/June.

Either way, he now has 2 A stars and an A. He is a hardworking boy, like so many other students, and this year has also been incredibly difficult for him as he lost someone very close to him, which affected him a lot. I think it’s tough for anyone who has lost a someone they’re close to, to suicide no one knows how they’d deal with that. I sympathise with my son, he did his best whilst also attending therapy we are super proud of him.

We’re going to look around Edinburgh on their open day and see what he thinks as we recently visited the city and he liked it a lot. He is still applying to Oxford again at least this time he has actual grades not predicted, they apply early so he’ll have time to make decisions if he doesn’t get an offer this time. Last time he got an interview and smashed it but he knows he might not get an interview. He has the grades and can do economics so it’s simply a case of whether he gets an interview and, if he does, how it goes. Oxford is incredibly competitive and, honestly, he was lucky to get an interview and get as far as he did last time. There are so many incredibly bright children applying, and there will always be people who are just as bright, if not brighter, than him.

He’s happy to take the gap year anyway. He wants to work for a while as he’s working in an art gallery and throughly enjoying it then hopefully do some travelling, lots of his friends are taking gap years anyway. His girlfriend was always planning to take a gap year, work and travel, so he’ll probably join her.

I do understand how privileged we are. Saying that we want the best for our child doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate that other parents want exactly the same for theirs. We know we’re very lucky to have had the means to send our children to private school. My original post was a typo filled rant not exactly thinking and looking back, it was definitely a privileged rant. That wasn’t my intention, but I can see how it came across that way, and for that I genuinely apologise.

Ultimately I’m just happy for my son he has been through a lot this academic year I think he should just chill and have fun. Those grades are his and he can do whatever he wants with them. We’ve had a long chat about everything a few tears from me and DH nearly got teary we are just so proud of him. He knows that, even if it isn’t Oxford, he has plenty of options. With 2 A*s and an A, regardless of what happens with the FM remark. He can apply to so many excellent universities and doesn’t need to rely on predicted grades. Other than Oxford and Cambridge, lots of universities don’t require an interview. He’s applied for two courses some unis only maths other econ and maths which is what he wants to study anyway.

People saying maybe he’s not that clever because he missed his offer…. You might be right.

He’ll be applying with achieved grades this time rather than predicted grades, so whatever happens he will be fine. His mocks he achieved 3 A stars but this was before his friends passing. He has now got 2 A stars and hopefully this other remark is a success if not that’s fine. His school did let us know that Oxford do take into account mitigating circumstances but our son did not want that associated with his application so no mention of that to either of the universities. He just wanted to focus on revision at the time. I think a gap year is a good idea he’ll have time to think, and reflect on things beyond just education maybe come October time he might not even want to apply to oxford. He’s said he’s going to have a big think after the lengthy conversation.

He’s a privileged boy and maybe I haven’t done the best job at making sure he knows that since this is his first set back in life but he is 17 he will learn and has lots more time for set backs. We will keep guiding him and make better decisions as parents all I can do is try to do even better with his younger siblings in terms of then knowing their privileges.

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OP posts:
Lampzade · 17/08/2026 10:12

I personally think a gap year is a fantastic idea anyway
I encouraged my three DC to take either a gap year or take a course whereby they can study abroad for a year

CypressMoon · 17/08/2026 10:12

@Stormyseasallround has explained so well the importance of contextual offers. This is fair.

But he's your son, so of course you feel his pain. He can reapply. When does the remark come out? He could contact his chosen college or Oxford clearing (it does exist) if he meets the grade. Was he put on their wait list? Some people drop out anyway. It would be worth contacting both the college he applied to and the central admin office with a polite note saying that if for any reason a place becomes available an any college for his chosen subject, please would they consider him, as he is taking a gap year and hasn't accepted elsewhere.

Oxford can be funny about people desperate to 'go to Oxford' just for the kudos, but take seriously people who want to study their chosen subject there due to the teaching/lecturing expertise and library/research opportunities etc.

But (and this is very important if he is applying to do Maths and taking a gap year) the tutors get concerned that Math skills drop off quickly without practise. In Maths, above other subjects, the mental skill is akin to sporting prowess. So ensure he does something to keep those skills alive and developing. Maybe he could go back to his old school and offer himself as a TA for Further Maths and Maths A level. He could also earn a small fortune accepting students for GCSE and A level revision as a private tutor, and also enrol on a course - online if necessary, which primes him for undergraduate study - perhaps in a given field of Maths he's interested in. He could mention these in his reapplication. As well, of course, as having a lot of fun in his gap year.

People do get in on second application. But if he doesn't get in next time, he needs to learn it's not failure, it's finding a place that's right for him. DS2 failed to get into Cambridge and ended up somewhere far better suited to him in every way, pursuing a career and a semi-pro hobby he'd not have had the chance to do in Cambridge. And if he is still obsessed, it is far easier to get in, post grad. If he gets a first from another good uni, he could more easily do post grad study there. DS had a few friends who did this.

BigDanBurnHesFromBlyth · 17/08/2026 10:13

I think maybe your expectations are very skewed. No kid who ‘isn’t the brightest’ is going to get the grades he did with the disruption you say he suffered as a result of his friend sadly dying. Your son is very clever and your expectations seem off.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 17/08/2026 10:13

Does your son know his mum is posting a pretty identifying load of information about online?
I mean even if you've changed some information his privacy at a tricky time clearly isn't your top priority

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:16

BigDanBurnHesFromBlyth · 17/08/2026 10:13

I think maybe your expectations are very skewed. No kid who ‘isn’t the brightest’ is going to get the grades he did with the disruption you say he suffered as a result of his friend sadly dying. Your son is very clever and your expectations seem off.

I am saying he is not the brightest because people on my previous post said he wasn’t. I’m not going to argue for some reason they thought I said he was a prodigy or something.

OP posts:
YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:17

Hobnobswantshernameback · 17/08/2026 10:13

Does your son know his mum is posting a pretty identifying load of information about online?
I mean even if you've changed some information his privacy at a tricky time clearly isn't your top priority

I told him as we did discuss contextual offers and my uneducated views. DH knows too it’s not a secret I go on MN.

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Gengha · 17/08/2026 10:19

Not just on this thread but I’m surprised at the amount of remarking papers that goes on. How shit is the marking in the first place that this is necessary? Again though assuming it’s paid for (we are in Scotland so I don’t know much about A levels) something else only open to the privileged.

OP on last thread you came across extraordinarily badly last night and your son not any better, you can’t be surprised you got people’s backs up.

Seagulldancing · 17/08/2026 10:23

Hes 17, just had a friend die, done his Alevel and sees his amazing grades as a failure? You need to do some hard core psychological support for him over the next year, he seems very vulnerable to me and has a poor grasp of reality. A gap year travelling could bring challenges he can't cope with. Maybe staying at home and regular sessions with a therapist would set him on a good footing for the future.
Edit to add that even his DM thinks he's not the brightest. Thats not a good long term basis for his self esteem.

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:23

Araminta1004 · 17/08/2026 10:06

Durham has like 40% privately educated kids now. It is probably a great place to network and have a good time and come out with a good degree. My DD has friends who got all A stars and were rejected from Oxbridge and ended up at Durham. After the initial disappointment and it being “too far”, they are all having a great time.

How were they rejected with A stars. If you get through the interview and get an offer it’s a contract and they have to accept you.

Ds had already gone through the interview. He might not even get interview the next time round

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Sizzer40 · 17/08/2026 10:23

Yeah, you lost me at rowing sessions.

Codfg · 17/08/2026 10:24

Twiglets1 · 17/08/2026 10:04

LSE isn't for everyone. Some people prefer a more collegiate uni or one not in London. It's not all about graduate prospects, the young person also has to feel happy with where they are living as well as studying for the next 3 years.

My child went to LSE. It's a great uni for economics. London actually has things to do and plenty of opportunity to grow and develop. It's also very prestigious.

HollyhocksandPeons · 17/08/2026 10:24

Stormyseasallround · 17/08/2026 09:48

The thing you’re still not recognising is that while he may well be very hard working, he is not as hard working as Chantelle. She also got A grades, but couldn’t join a rowing team because her state comp in a deprived area didn’t have one. They did have a girls’ football team but she couldn’t join it because her mum is disabled, and she had to leave school bang on time every day to collect her little sister from school. On an evening she found it hard to study because she shared a bedroom with two siblings so didn’t have anywhere quiet to study. On a Saturday and Sunday she had to work in a part time job because, since her mum fell ill and her dad left them, money is really tight and she has to chip her wages in to keep the family afloat. So she wasn’t able to study much then either. Despite ALL of this, she still got the same grades as your son and therefore some universities made her a contextual offer based on it because let’s face it, Chantelle is a genius to still get those grades despite all of the adversity she’s faced, and she deserves a bit of a break in life.

Who the fuck if Kemal? (c)

OneNewLeader · 17/08/2026 10:26

You know your son will be fine. You love him, you want the best for him. Understandable. You mentioned he lost a close friend, think about how awful this time must be for them. I think your son showed a great character trait in not using a devastating loss as a mitigating factor. I’d be beyond proud.

SP2024 · 17/08/2026 10:26

Codfg · 17/08/2026 10:24

My child went to LSE. It's a great uni for economics. London actually has things to do and plenty of opportunity to grow and develop. It's also very prestigious.

I went to LSE. It’s a great uni and it definitely opened doors for me applying for grad schemes. But the experience was a bit rubbish, all spread out. If I had my time again I would have gone to a campus uni for sure.

sugarapplelane · 17/08/2026 10:27

Why on earth didn’t he put down an insurance? That was terribly shortsighted of him, his school and you and your DH as parents. There is no guarantee that he would get the grades for his first choice so you HAVE to put down a second. It’s just logical.
BTW my DD lost a Grandparent right in the middle of study leave. It did put her off kilter a bit, but I told her just to concentrate on getting her grades. She got 3A* and an A. She went to a state comp who don’t get the best results, but she worked her socks off.
You need to give your head a wobble in terms of your attitude towards your son and his privilege. Others have less but are just as deserving.

Nocameltoeleggingsplease · 17/08/2026 10:27

OP well done for this post and good luck to your son. Take care x

PetulaGordeno · 17/08/2026 10:28

Gengha · 17/08/2026 10:19

Not just on this thread but I’m surprised at the amount of remarking papers that goes on. How shit is the marking in the first place that this is necessary? Again though assuming it’s paid for (we are in Scotland so I don’t know much about A levels) something else only open to the privileged.

OP on last thread you came across extraordinarily badly last night and your son not any better, you can’t be surprised you got people’s backs up.

Edited

Every parent I have spoken to is demanding remarks. So if they all move up 1/2 marks, what about the kids 1 point behind them?
I have been an examiner and did a thorough job.
The only time as a teacher we ever looked at getting something looked at was when the grade was way off.
I am so old I can remember when A levels were marked by percentage not by banded mark grades. So the top 5 per cent or so got an A the top grade then. And that was it. We all got on with it.
Even in the best school there would be a few A’s in a class and they were real, real high flyers. We would get 2/3 to Oxbridge every year in the whole school and it was the best school in the region. They would usually sit 5 A levels, usually including Further Maths.
They would be the ones who would get all A’s but that would be out of 60 odd students.
I think something like a third of students get an A or an A* now and I am not sure which system is best.

Chesatony · 17/08/2026 10:28

Your son is bright, has had huge advantage in his private education because of its resources, intake and class sizes, and sounds ambitious and capable. Wonderful. You don’t have to worry that this issue is unfair. He is already at the top of the pile and no one can predict which uni is the best fit. You could be collecting him after a term for all we know - so much living and so many choices. This one issue won’t determine anything.

Cosyblankets · 17/08/2026 10:28

Stormyseasallround · 17/08/2026 09:48

The thing you’re still not recognising is that while he may well be very hard working, he is not as hard working as Chantelle. She also got A grades, but couldn’t join a rowing team because her state comp in a deprived area didn’t have one. They did have a girls’ football team but she couldn’t join it because her mum is disabled, and she had to leave school bang on time every day to collect her little sister from school. On an evening she found it hard to study because she shared a bedroom with two siblings so didn’t have anywhere quiet to study. On a Saturday and Sunday she had to work in a part time job because, since her mum fell ill and her dad left them, money is really tight and she has to chip her wages in to keep the family afloat. So she wasn’t able to study much then either. Despite ALL of this, she still got the same grades as your son and therefore some universities made her a contextual offer based on it because let’s face it, Chantelle is a genius to still get those grades despite all of the adversity she’s faced, and she deserves a bit of a break in life.

With bells on!

Bonden · 17/08/2026 10:29

Your poor bloody son. What his home life is like atm I cannot imagine.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 17/08/2026 10:30

This whole business of demanding re-marking because a student didn't get exactly the grades they want in the hope of scraping up a few extra marks is unethical. It's reasonable to ask for a re-mark if a student is sure they rocked an exam and then they failed, but otherwise it's a dick move. And it's creating a generation of stroppy entitled young people with unrealistic expectations from education and then maybe employers too.

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:30

sugarapplelane · 17/08/2026 10:27

Why on earth didn’t he put down an insurance? That was terribly shortsighted of him, his school and you and your DH as parents. There is no guarantee that he would get the grades for his first choice so you HAVE to put down a second. It’s just logical.
BTW my DD lost a Grandparent right in the middle of study leave. It did put her off kilter a bit, but I told her just to concentrate on getting her grades. She got 3A* and an A. She went to a state comp who don’t get the best results, but she worked her socks off.
You need to give your head a wobble in terms of your attitude towards your son and his privilege. Others have less but are just as deserving.

He did put down an insurance choice but alright. We will just wait and see how this other remark goes. First one has been successful so it’s just a matter of waiting. He is happy with taking a gap year, he isn’t even 18 yet another year at home won’t hurt as he’s working part time anyway

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Hobnobswantshernameback · 17/08/2026 10:31

And not being funny but if your son with all his advantages, hard work and apparently near genius intellect didn't work out he needed a sensible insurance choice then I'm not sure he's as bright as you think he is

HollyhocksandPeons · 17/08/2026 10:31

CypressMoon · 17/08/2026 10:12

@Stormyseasallround has explained so well the importance of contextual offers. This is fair.

But he's your son, so of course you feel his pain. He can reapply. When does the remark come out? He could contact his chosen college or Oxford clearing (it does exist) if he meets the grade. Was he put on their wait list? Some people drop out anyway. It would be worth contacting both the college he applied to and the central admin office with a polite note saying that if for any reason a place becomes available an any college for his chosen subject, please would they consider him, as he is taking a gap year and hasn't accepted elsewhere.

Oxford can be funny about people desperate to 'go to Oxford' just for the kudos, but take seriously people who want to study their chosen subject there due to the teaching/lecturing expertise and library/research opportunities etc.

But (and this is very important if he is applying to do Maths and taking a gap year) the tutors get concerned that Math skills drop off quickly without practise. In Maths, above other subjects, the mental skill is akin to sporting prowess. So ensure he does something to keep those skills alive and developing. Maybe he could go back to his old school and offer himself as a TA for Further Maths and Maths A level. He could also earn a small fortune accepting students for GCSE and A level revision as a private tutor, and also enrol on a course - online if necessary, which primes him for undergraduate study - perhaps in a given field of Maths he's interested in. He could mention these in his reapplication. As well, of course, as having a lot of fun in his gap year.

People do get in on second application. But if he doesn't get in next time, he needs to learn it's not failure, it's finding a place that's right for him. DS2 failed to get into Cambridge and ended up somewhere far better suited to him in every way, pursuing a career and a semi-pro hobby he'd not have had the chance to do in Cambridge. And if he is still obsessed, it is far easier to get in, post grad. If he gets a first from another good uni, he could more easily do post grad study there. DS had a few friends who did this.

Edited

Best advice, absolutely best - about TA and maths skills being akin to sport skills, bravo.
I hope the OP will follow this advice and not the idiotic gap year travelling or working in a gallery.
Love MN for posts like yours - offers advice and explanation for the advice.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 17/08/2026 10:31

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 09:51

Amazing for her. My son isn’t the brightest but we he was close to the 3 A stars which is why the school has submitted for the remarks so we will wait for the third one to get remarked and see if might still just be an A and he can decide what he’d like to do.

I’ve said my view on contextual offers wasn’t correct I have apologised. I know nothing about them to be honest I was just ranting and it was wrong.

My son isn’t the brightest but we he was close to the 3 A stars

And he got those because he’s been hot-housed in a privileged system based on your income. Private schools exist to prise the best results out of even the most dullard children of the rich, and those kids are supported by ambitious parents who know how to play the system.

If he still didn’t work hard enough to get the results he needed, even with such a loaded springboard, then he could do with some time out to reflect on that. Working in an art gallery and taking a Gap Yah are a very easy fallback for an incredibly privileged and - as you say yourself - arrogant child who’s wasted the very rarefied opportunities afforded to him. Maybe a year of something a bit more like actual work will give him a different perspective.

You say you understand your initial position was misguided but isn’t that mainly because you’ve had your arse handed to you? Your latest post reads like a stream of consciousness about your wonderful son, rather than a genuine acknowledgment that vast numbers of bright, talented hardworking kids, in a system that’s fully loaded against them, deserve the minor adjustments that might give them access to a world-class education.

An education of the type you and your son take completely and utterly for granted, to the extent of moaning on here that it’s sooo unfair when he fucks up and doesn’t get handed the silver spoon your investment dictates he’s entitled to.

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