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Update: to feel as though contextual offers are unfair

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YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 09:41

Update regarding this
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5567476-aibu-to-feel-contextual-offers-are-unfair-after-my-sons-results?callback=in&code=YTYYNJU0NZUTMJAZMY0ZY2RKLWE5NZQTNTY4ZDRLYZQ2YTU3&reply=154196625&state=efb9c2356e9442fe90af05997d0b47e9

Hi,
I posted here yesterday about my son and stopped responding because, to be honest, I was hurt for him and I think my post came across as ridiculous. I didn’t say he was the hardest working boy in the world, but he is hardworking, and as his mum I’m obviously going to think that my son is hardworking whether that is true or not I base it on who he is, he’s spent majority of his life being very disciplined ie waking up early for rowing sessions etc.

He was rejected from Oxford because he didn’t meet the offer of 2 A stars and an A on results day. We understand that wholeheartedly he didn’t meet the offer case closed. He was accepted into Durham for economics and maths which unfortunately wasn’t the university he wanted. We’ve visited Durham he didn’t dislike it but it’s not the uni for him, he preferred other unis that weren’t oxford but declined their offers. We had been warned about the importance of his insurance choice and we did speak to him about it, but I suppose he was a little arrogant about it all. He’s certainly learnt his lesson now.

We did submit his for remarks because, looking at the grade boundaries, he was very close to getting 3 A stars only two marks off one on one of his subjects. Which is why he was near miss, on results day he was in a waiting pool essentially on hold. We’re still waiting for the Further Maths remark, but that was a few more marks off but we are willing to risk it so he may not even need to resit anything, but we’ll see.
The school isn’t against resits plenty of students resit all the time a friend of ours their son resat last year as he missed on one of his subject and the remark didn’t change. He’s off to uni this year having achieved the grades required. Sometimes students have mitigating circumstances that affect how they do on their exams in May/June.

Either way, he now has 2 A stars and an A. He is a hardworking boy, like so many other students, and this year has also been incredibly difficult for him as he lost someone very close to him, which affected him a lot. I think it’s tough for anyone who has lost a someone they’re close to, to suicide no one knows how they’d deal with that. I sympathise with my son, he did his best whilst also attending therapy we are super proud of him.

We’re going to look around Edinburgh on their open day and see what he thinks as we recently visited the city and he liked it a lot. He is still applying to Oxford again at least this time he has actual grades not predicted, they apply early so he’ll have time to make decisions if he doesn’t get an offer this time. Last time he got an interview and smashed it but he knows he might not get an interview. He has the grades and can do economics so it’s simply a case of whether he gets an interview and, if he does, how it goes. Oxford is incredibly competitive and, honestly, he was lucky to get an interview and get as far as he did last time. There are so many incredibly bright children applying, and there will always be people who are just as bright, if not brighter, than him.

He’s happy to take the gap year anyway. He wants to work for a while as he’s working in an art gallery and throughly enjoying it then hopefully do some travelling, lots of his friends are taking gap years anyway. His girlfriend was always planning to take a gap year, work and travel, so he’ll probably join her.

I do understand how privileged we are. Saying that we want the best for our child doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate that other parents want exactly the same for theirs. We know we’re very lucky to have had the means to send our children to private school. My original post was a typo filled rant not exactly thinking and looking back, it was definitely a privileged rant. That wasn’t my intention, but I can see how it came across that way, and for that I genuinely apologise.

Ultimately I’m just happy for my son he has been through a lot this academic year I think he should just chill and have fun. Those grades are his and he can do whatever he wants with them. We’ve had a long chat about everything a few tears from me and DH nearly got teary we are just so proud of him. He knows that, even if it isn’t Oxford, he has plenty of options. With 2 A*s and an A, regardless of what happens with the FM remark. He can apply to so many excellent universities and doesn’t need to rely on predicted grades. Other than Oxford and Cambridge, lots of universities don’t require an interview. He’s applied for two courses some unis only maths other econ and maths which is what he wants to study anyway.

People saying maybe he’s not that clever because he missed his offer…. You might be right.

He’ll be applying with achieved grades this time rather than predicted grades, so whatever happens he will be fine. His mocks he achieved 3 A stars but this was before his friends passing. He has now got 2 A stars and hopefully this other remark is a success if not that’s fine. His school did let us know that Oxford do take into account mitigating circumstances but our son did not want that associated with his application so no mention of that to either of the universities. He just wanted to focus on revision at the time. I think a gap year is a good idea he’ll have time to think, and reflect on things beyond just education maybe come October time he might not even want to apply to oxford. He’s said he’s going to have a big think after the lengthy conversation.

He’s a privileged boy and maybe I haven’t done the best job at making sure he knows that since this is his first set back in life but he is 17 he will learn and has lots more time for set backs. We will keep guiding him and make better decisions as parents all I can do is try to do even better with his younger siblings in terms of then knowing their privileges.

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Araminta1004 · 17/08/2026 10:32

@YourWaryHam - rejected at interview stage or before that and all A stars post A level. It happens a lot. Plenty don’t reapply, some do.
Would be interesting to see the full list of the 7245 who got all A stars in 2026 and know how many actually go to Oxbridge.

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:32

Hobnobswantshernameback · 17/08/2026 10:31

And not being funny but if your son with all his advantages, hard work and apparently near genius intellect didn't work out he needed a sensible insurance choice then I'm not sure he's as bright as you think he is

Yes he’s not bright

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MiceSpiders · 17/08/2026 10:34

I went to Durham, first person in my family to go to university, my dad worked in a factory and my mum had various jobs such as cleaning, retail etc. They separated when I was young , we often didn't have enough money to keep 50p in the electricity meter. Both my parents left school at 14 with no qualifications straight into manual jobs because their families needed the money. Do not tell me your son's experience was the same as mine. I didn't get a contextual offer because they didn't exist back then. I was expected to achieve exactly the same as those at private schools ,or with parents to check their coursework ,arrange for internships and work experience placements with their middle class friends, pay for tutoring, send them to clubs and activities there was no way we could afford and tbh didn't even know they existed, I was expected to achieve the same as those who were free to focus without the worry of not knowing if there was money for food or utilities. Without working babysitting jobs from 12, waitressing in pubs from 15 to help the household pot. For those who get contextual offers now, bloody good for them! They deserve to.

Your son didn't put down an insurance because he's arrogant and everything has always gone his way so why shouldn't it now. Have a word with yourself.

isitoverno · 17/08/2026 10:34

I got contextual offers for both my degrees because nobody in my area goes to uni.

Because they’re mostly over 90! They based it on applicants in the last 12 months. I find it funny to be honest

BezMark · 17/08/2026 10:34

you just never know how it will go. I was encouraged to apply to Durham but didn't get the marks needed, and went to Edinburgh instead. I don't think I would have gotten on as well at Durham honestly. I can't even remember which other unis were on my list. Lancaster was maybe one just randomly because they had such a nice prospectus?

All of this to say he'll get on with it, he'll be fine and in the future none of this will seem all that important (although I fully accept it feels super important now!)

Jellycatspyjamas · 17/08/2026 10:34

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:16

I am saying he is not the brightest because people on my previous post said he wasn’t. I’m not going to argue for some reason they thought I said he was a prodigy or something.

Please stop saying he’s not the brightest, his results are an achievement by any measure particularly given the loss of his friend. I read your other thread and while I think you were being spectacularly narrow minded, I also think there were a fair few people happy to stick the boot in.

Your son is enormously privileged, he has also done very well in his exams, maybe not quite where he wanted to be but he has many options open to him that won’t be available to young people who did less well. Don’t let random people online take anything away from his achievements, it’s like being pissed you got silver at the Olympics.

You were pulled up for your attitude, and you’ve accepted that with good grace. Go and celebrate your boy - he sounds fab.

pimplebum · 17/08/2026 10:36

Twiglets1 · 17/08/2026 09:59

I didn't see your original thread but it sounds like you and your son have both benefitted from some reflection time. It's an emotional time when your child doesn't get into the uni they have their heart set on (I know because my daughter went through Clearing a few years ago).

A gap year sounds a very good idea if he does not feel enthusiastic about going to Durham. He will get some unconditional offers next year with his grades already known, and will have time to decide which unis he really would be enthusiastic about. He will learn from this set back and it won't define him - he will go to a great uni in the end and do very well I'm sure.

Wow

my parents were on holiday on results day snd had nothing to do with clearing

they came home and id sorted it

i did visits/ , paperwork - they didn’t even know what A levels i was taking or what unis i was applying to

kind loving parents

ThatsCute · 17/08/2026 10:37

Gengha · 17/08/2026 10:19

Not just on this thread but I’m surprised at the amount of remarking papers that goes on. How shit is the marking in the first place that this is necessary? Again though assuming it’s paid for (we are in Scotland so I don’t know much about A levels) something else only open to the privileged.

OP on last thread you came across extraordinarily badly last night and your son not any better, you can’t be surprised you got people’s backs up.

Edited

The marking is pretty shit (at least it is at GCSE IME). DC’s English Lit results were unexpected, so we put in for a remark. A high 5 was remarked to a high 6–not even just a few points to get over the barrier, but a FULL grade off. After going through the remarking process, we found out that this is not unusual at all, and has happened to quite a few people we know IRL.

LancashireButterPie · 17/08/2026 10:39

You said yourself he's not the brightest.
Oxford know who are the brightest and who will survive the brutality of their courses.
I know several kids who went to Oxbridge and crashed out without the support of their private school tutors spoon feeding them.

Gengha · 17/08/2026 10:41

ThatsCute · 17/08/2026 10:37

The marking is pretty shit (at least it is at GCSE IME). DC’s English Lit results were unexpected, so we put in for a remark. A high 5 was remarked to a high 6–not even just a few points to get over the barrier, but a FULL grade off. After going through the remarking process, we found out that this is not unusual at all, and has happened to quite a few people we know IRL.

That’s quite shocking. One of mine has missed an A by one mark and we have put into appeal but not expecting it to get anywhere. (Scotland)

takealettermsjones · 17/08/2026 10:43

I thought TAATs were not allowed 🙄

hiermetzandvullen · 17/08/2026 10:45

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:32

Yes he’s not bright

If he's "not bright", don't push him into Oxford. I know from my own experience as a state school "genius" (ha, ha, ha, no) going up to Oxford that it's a massive step in intellectual rigour, and not for anyone who will crumble when those first shitty marks start coming in (usually after week 1 and your first essay mark shocker, followed in the new year after your first set of collections). There are so many other, excellent universities where he will thrive.

nam3c4ang3 · 17/08/2026 10:46

WHY are you both so hell-bent on Oxford?! It might not even suit him. Look - he's not good enough for it, Durham is a really, really good uni as well! You need to teach your son not to be so spoilt - because that's what he sounds like, and YOU have enabled him.

lifeturnsonadime · 17/08/2026 10:49

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:12

Agree we haven’t disagreed with Oxford decision. He didn’t meet the offer. We are waiting for one more remark he was 4 marks off so we shall see. If it does go up then he’ll meet the offer and can apply next year no resits requires. He might not get an interview again but the application is much earlier so he can shuffle his choices come January time anyway.

What was the offer?

What grades did he get?

Which course?

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:49

nam3c4ang3 · 17/08/2026 10:46

WHY are you both so hell-bent on Oxford?! It might not even suit him. Look - he's not good enough for it, Durham is a really, really good uni as well! You need to teach your son not to be so spoilt - because that's what he sounds like, and YOU have enabled him.

I am not fussed what uni he wants to attend. He does not want to go to Durham uni he doesn’t have to go to a uni he doesn’t want to go to. His choices matter too. He might not get into Oxford we’ve had a length chat after the remark. A lot of unis will take him with 2 A stars and an A we are waiting for another remark so it might be 3 A stars either way a gap year will be beneficial to him. He’s still dealing with a lot of grief in regards to his friend and attending counselling sessions I think a gap year will be a nice break for him. He is planning to do more research, we are going to visit Edinburgh uni for open day and others he liked the city so hopefully he’ll enjoy the open day and other unis.

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UninitendedShark · 17/08/2026 10:49

I’m glad you’ve had a rethink on your original post because it’s really very unfair to suggest that parents who can’t afford public school don’t want the best for their kids.

I’d also like to add that my child just got 4x A star A’levels from a mediocre rural 6th form (whilst holding down a part time job) and didn’t even apply to Oxbridge as they will have to work part time to afford to live away at uni. Even contextual offers don’t mitigate for kids who come from very poor households.

It is frustrating being a few marks away, but that’s just life. I hope he is happy with whatever pans out for him. He’s going to need resilience if you keep saying he isn’t bright.

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 10:51

hiermetzandvullen · 17/08/2026 10:45

If he's "not bright", don't push him into Oxford. I know from my own experience as a state school "genius" (ha, ha, ha, no) going up to Oxford that it's a massive step in intellectual rigour, and not for anyone who will crumble when those first shitty marks start coming in (usually after week 1 and your first essay mark shocker, followed in the new year after your first set of collections). There are so many other, excellent universities where he will thrive.

I am not pushing him I’m agreeing with all those saying he’s not bright. I know my own son I’ve known him for 17 years now. I know what he can and can’t do, sadly no one can predict how they will deal with the suicide of a friend. We will take it day by day he’s done incredibly well to get 2 A stars an A revising whilst also focusing on therapy and dealing with grief. He’s still a young man I want to give him grace I would have gone awol if I lost a friend at that age to suicide.

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ProudCat · 17/08/2026 10:54

Teacher here, working in a really deprived area / school. Top 10% in the country.

I have a kid predicted 3 x A*. Would love to take the credit but frankly it's all their own work. Literally a sub-genius.

I asked them about Oxford / Cambridge. Not interested. Reasons given, doesn't want to be surrounded by 'those sort of people'.

hotsocks27 · 17/08/2026 10:56

Gengha · 17/08/2026 10:19

Not just on this thread but I’m surprised at the amount of remarking papers that goes on. How shit is the marking in the first place that this is necessary? Again though assuming it’s paid for (we are in Scotland so I don’t know much about A levels) something else only open to the privileged.

OP on last thread you came across extraordinarily badly last night and your son not any better, you can’t be surprised you got people’s backs up.

Edited

I mark A-level papers. We expect accuracy of at least 80% when we check marking. So yes, there are mistakes, and sometimes it can be a bit subjective if a candidate has almost got it right, but not quite. Some markers might award the mark in that situation, others might not. But really marking and grading is just a way of ranking candidates from best to worst. It's fuzzy at the boundaries but there's no way round that. About 20-25% of grades change with a marking review, and this mostly involves candidates at the boundary who missed by 1 or 2 marks.

GirlsInGreen · 17/08/2026 10:56

@YourWaryHam I dont understand. He missed his grades for Oxford on Thursday, today you're saying a priorty look has come back & he now has the grades needed? Surely his place is still available? Have you spoken to the admissions at his Oxford college?
Im not disbelieving you but I've never known a paper to come back so quick for a remark. The script just for teachers to look at, but not for examiners to take a priority look.
If he now has his grades on remark you must contact the admissions office at his College asap.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 17/08/2026 10:58

hotsocks27 · 17/08/2026 10:56

I mark A-level papers. We expect accuracy of at least 80% when we check marking. So yes, there are mistakes, and sometimes it can be a bit subjective if a candidate has almost got it right, but not quite. Some markers might award the mark in that situation, others might not. But really marking and grading is just a way of ranking candidates from best to worst. It's fuzzy at the boundaries but there's no way round that. About 20-25% of grades change with a marking review, and this mostly involves candidates at the boundary who missed by 1 or 2 marks.

Can marks go down or only up?

YourWaryHam · 17/08/2026 11:00

GirlsInGreen · 17/08/2026 10:56

@YourWaryHam I dont understand. He missed his grades for Oxford on Thursday, today you're saying a priorty look has come back & he now has the grades needed? Surely his place is still available? Have you spoken to the admissions at his Oxford college?
Im not disbelieving you but I've never known a paper to come back so quick for a remark. The script just for teachers to look at, but not for examiners to take a priority look.
If he now has his grades on remark you must contact the admissions office at his College asap.

Priority marking can take up to 10 calendar days they work over the weekends too depending on exam board. One of his friends had his back on Friday.
He was a near miss reject, he was on hold but in the end they couldn’t accept the grades and his insurance accepted him but he didn’t want to attend Durham so gap year is better option.

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hotsocks27 · 17/08/2026 11:01

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 17/08/2026 10:58

Can marks go down or only up?

Up or down. And generally we don't know where the grade boundary is when we review. So potentially a candidate could go down a grade.

Codfg · 17/08/2026 11:02

SP2024 · 17/08/2026 10:26

I went to LSE. It’s a great uni and it definitely opened doors for me applying for grad schemes. But the experience was a bit rubbish, all spread out. If I had my time again I would have gone to a campus uni for sure.

My son is a recent lse grad, the uni has massively massively changed and he had a great experience. More and new central buildings on campus. Fun events. Great speakers and events. Nobel laureates.

He left and did a masters at a "campus uni" and hated it. It was like a field. And offered so much less than LSE.

ProfessorLayton1 · 17/08/2026 11:04

@YourWaryHam- why do you say he is not the brightest. He certainly is, grades and how the exams work may not suit everyone. A boy who is exceptional in maths who was helping my daughter with her maths got B in further maths and missed his imperial offer. Honestly, this boy is one of the cleverest student I have known and maths comes so easily for this boy.

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