AIBU to think refusing treatment from non-white medical professionals should have consequences?

[MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack]

There has apparently been a significant rise in racism towards NHS staff, with a growing number of people refusing to allow non-white NHS staff to treat them. This is sad but not surprising given the shift in society as a whole towards people expressing their racism much more openly.

https://news.sky.com/story/nhs-staff-experiencing-unconscionable-levels-of-racist-abuse-survey-finds-13569575

I have always admired the commitment of NHS staff who treat all patients with care and compassion, even when those patients are rude and abusive. But if people are actually refusing to let certain staff provide treatment, surely there should be consequences for this?

AIBU to think that everyone has the right to refuse treatment if they so wish, but if a patient refuses treatment from a medical professional simply because they don't like the colour of that medical practitioner's skin, then they should then forfeit the right to receive that treatment on the NHS. So they can either go without or find the money to be treated privately by a medical professional of their choice?

There would need to be signs warning people of the consequences of their choices, of course, but if someone doesn't want a Black or Asian radiographer carry out their x-ray, then fine... they just don't get an x-ray.

It depends on the clinic. i said earlier when I was at uni the closest sexual health clinic made it clear they could not accommodate requests foe appointments with female gynos as there were not enough available. And that was signposted at the clinic.

I also don’t think they would cancel and reschedule other people’s appointments to accommodate some people’s requests. I imagine though a rape kit would be done in a specialist venue with female clinicians available.

I think that if people in a serious condition refuse treatment because of race, sex, or because their HCP has a squint, and a person they will accept treatment from is available, then the humane thing to do would be to get the preferred HCP to treat them. People who are in pain or ill aren't always rational, and shouldn't be left to suffer or die.

(I do think if it's non-urgent and race-related, they should just get popped at the bottom of the list of whatever HCP they wish to see).

So if I am assaulted by a white person, I can ask for a non-white doctor?

i have been assaulted by a white man, actually. Therefore I will now hate all white men.

Would you say the same of a woman that wanted a same sex doctor?
Its not all men but its mainly men.

I'm still curious to know how exactly assessing a clinical need would happen?

Truama affects people in different ways.

People are allowed to be scared for whatever reason and it doesn't mean that they are racist.

Which of those are genuine reasons to be scared of black people? Why would being a DV mean my fear of the black nurse is not racist?

Tbf, you shouldn't have to have a male doctor.

You can’t understand a single Irish or Scottish person? How on earth do you contact your bank!

Discrimination on the basis of race is racist actually.

You can defend their reaction but to try to say it is not racist is silly.

Sex is not the same as race. I don't want a man to perform a smear test on me. Not.because I think he will rape me. The same reason I don't want to share a loo with a man. Modesty, dignity, comfort.
That's why the SC has spoken in favour of same sex spaces.
The deflection on this thread!

Because truama triggers different people in different ways.

Oh we forgot it was now ok to be racist if it's a man. That doesn't count.

I cannot believe some of the posts I am reading.
You realise that others will say that it's ok to be racist if it's a woman? Because that's the same thing!

If the assault has traumatised you to such an extent that being treated by a white HCP would be hugely detrimental to your mental health, then sure.

i suspect the number of people who would genuinely need to make such requests in respect of any race is extremely low, but I’d hope HCPs would be able to recognise genuine trauma when they see it.

But we don’t all get female doctors, do we?

I am happy with any doctor for non- intimate procedures.

Where did I say that?

@Octavia64what wrong with that?

I bet they'd change their mind about only being treated by white people if they were in agony.

Oddly, I have never seen anyone say " I am scared of white people or white men".
Why is that?

We’re not talking about wanting a same race doctor. But being scared of a billion people globally and saying it’s not racism.

And yes I think that being scared of an entire gender is misandry / misogyny.

(But to be clear is, unless going private my experience is I can request but won’t necessarily get and may have to wait longer to get what I want.)

YABU. People have the right to withdraw consent to their treatment at anytime and for any reason.

Some of you need to read the SC judgement on same sex spaces and gender critical beliefs. They are legal.
Racism is not legal.
There is no such thing as racism againat men. Men are not a race. They are a sex.🙄

The NHS is a universal healthcare system - that includes treating wankers.

Okay? Good for you. My point was simply that women shouldn't be forced to see male HCPs if female ones are available. And a common reason that many women don't want to see male HCPs is because of trauma, so your example seemed to work against your point.