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AIBU to worry about large numbers of undocumented men arriving in Spain?

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MaturingCheeseball · 30/07/2026 17:34

Thousands of young men from Morocco and beyond swimming to Spain. Spain obviously has encouraged the problem with their amnesty for existing migrants, but thousands more arriving with no means of support and undocumented is going to cause huge problems. Large numbers will no doubt be ultimately trying to reach the UK.

It’s harsh, but we cannot accept infinite numbers of men.

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IcedCoffee26 · 30/07/2026 20:38

EmeraldShamrock000 · 30/07/2026 20:27

Unfortunately those laws don’t apply only to war-zone areas. They pretend to be gay escaping persecution and a lot of other blatant lies. It’s easy, if they refuse you sure you just stay in the country illegally.

You should stop making things up. Moroccan migrants are not "pretending to be gay".

Good grief.

Anyway, once again - people in Europe, whether ciudadanos comunitarios themselves or third country nationals who have migrated to EU states are not all desperately trying to move to the UK. Relax and indeed mind your own business. The UK voted out of the EU so you've no more right to moan about Spanish immigration policy than you have to moan about Russian immigration policy. None of the UK's business.

TopPocketFind · 30/07/2026 20:38

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 30/07/2026 20:30

Oh yes, all these women and children coming over. Must’ve missed those.

I was aaking if you would stop them from coming too

EppingTrain · 30/07/2026 20:38

Papyrophile · 30/07/2026 20:37

That was written in 1951. It is ridiculous to apply it in 2026, almost 70 years later. It was written to cope with the aftermath of WW2, among people who were culturally similar. Mostly Christian. Not to absorb hundreds of thousands of Muslim economic migrants.

Took the words out of mouth. You are always a beacon of wisdom on here (I mean this seriously)

EppingTrain · 30/07/2026 20:40

TopPocketFind · 30/07/2026 20:38

I was aaking if you would stop them from coming too

I probably would TBF. What "right" do they have to be in the United Kingdom?

BiteSizedLife · 30/07/2026 20:40

I think overwhelming migration AND billionaires are both problems tbh...

it doesnt have to be either or?

Whatdidyoujustcallme · 30/07/2026 20:41

2dogsandabudgie · 30/07/2026 18:56

Before Brexit it was people being trafficked in the backs of lorries, but after the tragic deaths of a high number of migrants who suffocated to death on two separate occasions which resulted in prosecutions and a major crackdown, the traffickers had to find other ways to get people across the channel. This is organised crime.

But before Brexit we could immediately send them back to the first safe country, regardless of how they arrived. Claim asylum, back you go. Actual illegals have no recourse to public funds, because they’re illegal. Mostly overstayers.

Brexit removed first safe country so however someone arrives and claims asylum, we then have to start to process to feed and house, until the Tory decimated asylum claim processing department wades through them.

you’re right it’s organised crime - organised by Brexiteers, disaster capitalists and owners of huge property portfolios raking in the rent paid by taxpayers.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 30/07/2026 20:41

nomas · 30/07/2026 19:21

Per Capita, the slogan for the Tommy brigade.

If you want to post a stat, do it. But the majority of rapists are are white men.

Oh come on you must understand per capita.
I know a previous poster stated the 1 in 6 of the adult population has the numeracy skills of an 11 year old, if you have a look at what per capita means it will improve your numeracy skills.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 30/07/2026 20:41

IcedCoffee26 · 30/07/2026 20:38

You should stop making things up. Moroccan migrants are not "pretending to be gay".

Good grief.

Anyway, once again - people in Europe, whether ciudadanos comunitarios themselves or third country nationals who have migrated to EU states are not all desperately trying to move to the UK. Relax and indeed mind your own business. The UK voted out of the EU so you've no more right to moan about Spanish immigration policy than you have to moan about Russian immigration policy. None of the UK's business.

What lies will tell the government when they apply for immigration? They just fancy living in Europe. Tough shit.

EppingTrain · 30/07/2026 20:42

Why are they fleeing Morocco

LuckyHazelFox · 30/07/2026 20:43

EmeraldShamrock000 · 30/07/2026 20:41

What lies will tell the government when they apply for immigration? They just fancy living in Europe. Tough shit.

They've had enough of living in France. I wonder why.

EppingTrain · 30/07/2026 20:43

Whatdidyoujustcallme · 30/07/2026 20:41

But before Brexit we could immediately send them back to the first safe country, regardless of how they arrived. Claim asylum, back you go. Actual illegals have no recourse to public funds, because they’re illegal. Mostly overstayers.

Brexit removed first safe country so however someone arrives and claims asylum, we then have to start to process to feed and house, until the Tory decimated asylum claim processing department wades through them.

you’re right it’s organised crime - organised by Brexiteers, disaster capitalists and owners of huge property portfolios raking in the rent paid by taxpayers.

@EasternStandard on many threads actually explains why this wasn't actually true

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 30/07/2026 20:44

TopPocketFind · 30/07/2026 20:38

I was aaking if you would stop them from coming too

I’d welcome women and children, yes.

IcedCoffee26 · 30/07/2026 20:44

OneStarAwake · 30/07/2026 20:29

That is what I basically said, that the Moroccan people coming into Spain will likely want to stay there. But that won't stop the frothing from some in the UK about this. Or the demonising of Moroccan people, which we have already seen on this and other threads today.

Of course. This thread is racism.

"I'm scared of brown men and I want an excuse to demonise them on the internet."

Don't worry about what we are doing here, we are fine, thank you.

We are outperforming the UK in terms of economic growth threefold for several years now. https://www.socialeurope.eu/sir-keir-starmer-wants-growth-perhaps-he-should-learn-spanish

Despite (or...here's a thought in part BECAUSE IF) the fact that we treat undocumented migrants with humanity.

Pedro Sanchéz or whoever is Prime Minister of the UK this week.....no contest.

A man in a suit looks at Big Ben and the Houses of Parliament.

Sir Keir Starmer Wants Growth—Perhaps He Should Learn Spanish

Spain’s socialist government has delivered economic growth three times faster than Britain’s; Labour would do well to study how.

https://www.socialeurope.eu/sir-keir-starmer-wants-growth-perhaps-he-should-learn-spanish

EppingTrain · 30/07/2026 20:44

LuckyHazelFox · 30/07/2026 20:43

They've had enough of living in France. I wonder why.

I wonder why as well. I actually like Paris even though it's a bit run down and suffering issues.

EppingTrain · 30/07/2026 20:45

IcedCoffee26 · 30/07/2026 20:44

Of course. This thread is racism.

"I'm scared of brown men and I want an excuse to demonise them on the internet."

Don't worry about what we are doing here, we are fine, thank you.

We are outperforming the UK in terms of economic growth threefold for several years now. https://www.socialeurope.eu/sir-keir-starmer-wants-growth-perhaps-he-should-learn-spanish

Despite (or...here's a thought in part BECAUSE IF) the fact that we treat undocumented migrants with humanity.

Pedro Sanchéz or whoever is Prime Minister of the UK this week.....no contest.

Official demographic and judicial statistics indicate that individuals of Moroccan nationality or origin register a higher per capita crime and conviction rate than native populations in several European countries, including Spain and the Netherlands.

Facts don't mean anything to you?

LuckyHazelFox · 30/07/2026 20:45

EppingTrain · 30/07/2026 20:44

I wonder why as well. I actually like Paris even though it's a bit run down and suffering issues.

Paris has fallen.

noddysyellowhat · 30/07/2026 20:46

LuckyHazelFox · 30/07/2026 20:45

Paris has fallen.

Paris is a dump.

IcedCoffee26 · 30/07/2026 20:46

EmeraldShamrock000 · 30/07/2026 20:41

What lies will tell the government when they apply for immigration? They just fancy living in Europe. Tough shit.

Here's a bit of news for you - they don't need to tell anyone lies at all 🙂

Feel free to browse the relevant law and educate yourself.

https://www.boe.es/eli/es/rd/2024/11/19/1155/con

BOE-A-2024-24099 Real Decreto 1155/2024, de 19 de noviembre, por el que se aprueba el Reglamento de la Ley Orgánica 4/2000, de 11 de enero, sobre derechos y libertades de los extranjeros en España y su integración social.

https://www.boe.es/eli/es/rd/2024/11/19/1155/con

LuckyHazelFox · 30/07/2026 20:47

IcedCoffee26 · 30/07/2026 20:44

Of course. This thread is racism.

"I'm scared of brown men and I want an excuse to demonise them on the internet."

Don't worry about what we are doing here, we are fine, thank you.

We are outperforming the UK in terms of economic growth threefold for several years now. https://www.socialeurope.eu/sir-keir-starmer-wants-growth-perhaps-he-should-learn-spanish

Despite (or...here's a thought in part BECAUSE IF) the fact that we treat undocumented migrants with humanity.

Pedro Sanchéz or whoever is Prime Minister of the UK this week.....no contest.

When are undocumented migrants going to treat young mothers working in migrant hotels, with humanity?

Clavinova · 30/07/2026 20:47

Whatdidyoujustcallme · 30/07/2026 20:41

But before Brexit we could immediately send them back to the first safe country, regardless of how they arrived. Claim asylum, back you go. Actual illegals have no recourse to public funds, because they’re illegal. Mostly overstayers.

Brexit removed first safe country so however someone arrives and claims asylum, we then have to start to process to feed and house, until the Tory decimated asylum claim processing department wades through them.

you’re right it’s organised crime - organised by Brexiteers, disaster capitalists and owners of huge property portfolios raking in the rent paid by taxpayers.

But before Brexit we could immediately send them back to the first safe country, regardless of how they arrived.

Nonsense.

Maddy70 · 30/07/2026 20:48

FineWineVine · 30/07/2026 18:15

They're entering Cueta, one of Spain's enclaves on the coast of north Africa. Not the same as swimming across the Mediterranean to mainland Spain.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/30/thousands-enter-spanish-enclave-ceuta-morocco-africa

This.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/07/2026 20:48

noddysyellowhat · 30/07/2026 20:46

Paris is a dump.

It is now and he breaks my heart.

Naunet · 30/07/2026 20:48

IcedCoffee26 · 30/07/2026 20:38

You should stop making things up. Moroccan migrants are not "pretending to be gay".

Good grief.

Anyway, once again - people in Europe, whether ciudadanos comunitarios themselves or third country nationals who have migrated to EU states are not all desperately trying to move to the UK. Relax and indeed mind your own business. The UK voted out of the EU so you've no more right to moan about Spanish immigration policy than you have to moan about Russian immigration policy. None of the UK's business.

We can talk about whatever we like thanks, and just a reminder, you're on a BRITISH forum.

OneStarAwake · 30/07/2026 20:50

LuckyHazelFox · 30/07/2026 20:45

Paris has fallen.

Your choice of words is very revealing.

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