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AIBU to worry about large numbers of undocumented men arriving in Spain?

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MaturingCheeseball · 30/07/2026 17:34

Thousands of young men from Morocco and beyond swimming to Spain. Spain obviously has encouraged the problem with their amnesty for existing migrants, but thousands more arriving with no means of support and undocumented is going to cause huge problems. Large numbers will no doubt be ultimately trying to reach the UK.

It’s harsh, but we cannot accept infinite numbers of men.

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ShutUpChris · 30/07/2026 18:18

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MissyB1 · 30/07/2026 18:20

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Where? And who?

Lumpycat · 30/07/2026 18:21

Down 13%. Legal migration is down much more. But we can control legal migration much more easily.

Saltysweetspicy · 30/07/2026 18:21

Dunnocantthinkofone · 30/07/2026 18:17

Maybe not - it’s how I read it though
4 people died is sufficient info- the fact that the women tally was raised led me to believe this somehow made it more awful

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Why do you think 3 women died though? Baring in mind there are usually no women or very few. Out of all the people on board, and 4 died, why were 3 of them women do you think?

MaturingCheeseball · 30/07/2026 18:21

MissyB1 · 30/07/2026 18:17

Another scaremongering “those dangerous immigrants are invading and taking over” thread.

Do you not think thousands of single men without work away from home is any kind of a problem? And what about accommodation? Where would you suggest they live and how would it be financed?

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Palmtreesinthegarden · 30/07/2026 18:21

titchy · 30/07/2026 17:46

OP are you under the impression MN is a Spanish site?

Net migration to the UK is down significantly btw - half what it was last year, and illegal migration also on a downward trend.

This made me laugh 🤣🤣

mtobrokeme · 30/07/2026 18:21

Dunnocantthinkofone · 30/07/2026 18:15

Newsflash. Women’s lives are equal to men’s. Not more important

Well, that’s not strictly true is it? I mean in our culture it is, but you cannot say women are equal in all cultures. That would simply be a lie.

Lumpycat · 30/07/2026 18:22

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I don’t think there’s a central organisation running the show. It’s individuals. From no-hope countries migrating in the only way they can.

Saltysweetspicy · 30/07/2026 18:24

Lumpycat · 30/07/2026 18:22

I don’t think there’s a central organisation running the show. It’s individuals. From no-hope countries migrating in the only way they can.

assimilating nicely when they get here? with each other, in pockets that are spreading

MissyB1 · 30/07/2026 18:24

MaturingCheeseball · 30/07/2026 18:21

Do you not think thousands of single men without work away from home is any kind of a problem? And what about accommodation? Where would you suggest they live and how would it be financed?

Are you in Spain? Surely this is for the Spanish to decide? I’m in the UK.

TopPocketFind · 30/07/2026 18:25

Dunnocantthinkofone · 30/07/2026 18:15

Newsflash. Women’s lives are equal to men’s. Not more important

Just pointing out that it's not just men crossing.

There were children amongst the injured

Saltysweetspicy · 30/07/2026 18:25

MissyB1 · 30/07/2026 18:24

Are you in Spain? Surely this is for the Spanish to decide? I’m in the UK.

What is happening there is the same as what is happening here. Why can't we discuss somewhere we don't live?

nomas · 30/07/2026 18:26

MaturingCheeseball · 30/07/2026 17:34

Thousands of young men from Morocco and beyond swimming to Spain. Spain obviously has encouraged the problem with their amnesty for existing migrants, but thousands more arriving with no means of support and undocumented is going to cause huge problems. Large numbers will no doubt be ultimately trying to reach the UK.

It’s harsh, but we cannot accept infinite numbers of men.

What’s it to do with you?

Spain are dealing with forest fires, they don’t need your hand wringing.

Ir are you a Brit ex-pat’ in Spain? Hmm

MandingoAteMyBaby · 30/07/2026 18:27

Open a legal route and guarantee deportation to irregular arrivals and the danger to the people desperately crossing will massively reduce.

MaturingCheeseball · 30/07/2026 18:28

People don’t stop in the first place they reach. We know that and some posters are very keen to point out that you can claim asylum wherever you like. Therefore we cannot accept assume that more than a few migrants will be making their way here. Especially if Spain feels itself overwhelmed.

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titchy · 30/07/2026 17:46

OP are you under the impression MN is a Spanish site?

Net migration to the UK is down significantly btw - half what it was last year, and illegal migration also on a downward trend.

Illegal migration is “down” this year due to the rough seas, the only deterrent is the weather, the government are doing nothing. The illegal unvetted men are now arriving in mega dinghy’s that hold around 160-170 people so numbers will soon start increasing rapidly. We are being invaded and the UK hasn’t got the infrastructure to cope with tens of thousands of illegals arriving each year.

TheSmallAssassin · 30/07/2026 18:31

Well, we won't accept "infinite men" @MaturingCheeseball, because there aren't infinite men. If there were an infinite number of people on the planet, then we would definitely be in trouble.

Maybe lay off the hyperbole and more people would take you seriously.

TopPocketFind · 30/07/2026 18:33

user1484056932 · 30/07/2026 18:29

Illegal migration is “down” this year due to the rough seas, the only deterrent is the weather, the government are doing nothing. The illegal unvetted men are now arriving in mega dinghy’s that hold around 160-170 people so numbers will soon start increasing rapidly. We are being invaded and the UK hasn’t got the infrastructure to cope with tens of thousands of illegals arriving each year.

It isn't due to rough seas or the weather.

I already linked the inews article explaining it
Here is another link
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/small-boat-uk-immigration-arrivals-migration-b3018798.html

Why small boat crossings to the UK and Europe are falling

The number of small boat arrivals to the UK is down 42 per cent from the same period in 2025, at 12,214. Holly Bancroft reports

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/small-boat-uk-immigration-arrivals-migration-b3018798.html

Whatevergoes2025 · 30/07/2026 18:33

Whenever I think of the boats I think of the poor little girl who was crushed to death by a pile of men clambering on top. Absolutely we need to stop the boats.

nomas · 30/07/2026 18:33

TheSmallAssassin · 30/07/2026 18:31

Well, we won't accept "infinite men" @MaturingCheeseball, because there aren't infinite men. If there were an infinite number of people on the planet, then we would definitely be in trouble.

Maybe lay off the hyperbole and more people would take you seriously.

🤣

Well said.

Even when net immigration is so low, people
find a way to moan, moan, moan.

Sending a donation to Spain for its forest fires would be a better use of your time, OP.

MaturingCheeseball · 30/07/2026 18:34

It’s funny how posters appear with insulting comments and desperate to shut down discussion.

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GaaNeen · 30/07/2026 18:35

Ballooney · 30/07/2026 18:08

Why is it invariably women that die when there are far more men? I wonder.

Good point @Ballooney
we know why -
misogyny

SadiraOfTyr · 30/07/2026 18:35

Do they stay in camps in Ceuta or are they transported to mainland Spain? My impression was that they remained in Ceuta until their claims were processed.

nomas · 30/07/2026 18:38

MaturingCheeseball · 30/07/2026 18:34

It’s funny how posters appear with insulting comments and desperate to shut down discussion.

What insult have you been given?

labamba007 · 30/07/2026 18:38

titchy · 30/07/2026 17:46

OP are you under the impression MN is a Spanish site?

Net migration to the UK is down significantly btw - half what it was last year, and illegal migration also on a downward trend.

People are leaving that’s why. People with jobs who pay tax. People who owns businesses who employ people. Doctors and dentist and nurses and teachers.

But yes it’s going down hooray! We’ll add more people in who don’t have skills and don’t pay tax and lose the people that do. Brilliant plan.

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