AIBU to worry about large numbers of undocumented men arriving in Spain?

[MaturingCheeseball]

Thousands of young men from Morocco and beyond swimming to Spain. Spain obviously has encouraged the problem with their amnesty for existing migrants, but thousands more arriving with no means of support and undocumented is going to cause huge problems. Large numbers will no doubt be ultimately trying to reach the UK.

It’s harsh, but we cannot accept infinite numbers of men.

Of course I don't. The riots were wrong but they were at least "in response" to something.

There was no reason at all for cologne or for the subsequent assaults and harassments that have followed.

Are you blaming the housing crisis on asylum seekers?

Refugees and asylum seekers make up less than 1% of the population.

Applications this year are down by 19%

And the paltry number of actual prosecutions following the cologne mass sexual assaults is/was shameful. That night changed how Germany and other western countries put on large scale gatherings. The sorry excuses of why it happened was maddening. The men thought unaccompanied girls and women in public meant they wanted it. It is quite unbelievable how it has been quietly confined to history.

Then again, many migrants have not been here for long. That would tend to make them less likely to be offenders I would think.

If, despite that, their rates are comparable to long-term residents, doesn't this indicate a greater propensity for crime?

I gather that the collection of data re ethnicity is patchy, so perhaps it is difficult to draw conclusions.

IIRC a good percentage of that angry mob were abusers. They care nothing about MVAWG, they just like an excuse for a riot.

Cologne changed my attitude toward immigration overnight.

I wish people would realise that in any group of men be they lawyers, drs, binmen, retail workers, young, old, far right, far left there will be a percentage who commit DV. I dont have the exact figures.

In Glasgow at least, asylum seekers are a major cause of people not being able to get social housing.
They declared themselves a sanctuary city so a lot of refugees head there once their asylum is approved, and because of that status, they get housed as priority.

But beyond that, legal migration in the numbers we've seen over the last few years has obviously had an impact on the housing shortage, and artificially inflating house prices.
Okay the worst of it in terms of raw numbers was the Boriswave, but we're still talking hundreds of thousands annually, on top of those who are already here.
And there are these random limited companies that are allowed to sponsor dozens of visas each, for things like taxi driver and kebab shop worker. And they all have to live somewhere.

Same.

Agreed. I wish they wouldn’t as it overshadows the crime, two recent’s incidents in Ireland, a 10 year old was sexually assaulted at an international protection hotel and a man was nearly beheaded, both of these incidents caused riots and once again the actual crime is out of the media and the riots are highlighted.
Then there is Jamey Carey a left wing lady who fell in love with a new arrival, she was found last month with her head caved in by her teenage daughter, people where cruel over the circumstances surrounding her death.

20% of those arrested during the Southport riots.

A lot of blame should be laid at the door of the complete ineffectiveness of the UN.
Wars are allied to drag on with no intervention or mediation, appalling governments are allowed to plunder and impoverish their countries with impunity.

Destination countries should be supported by international law with enabling deportations and repatriations, with asylum appeals begin granted on the thinnest of grounds.

Unfortunately nations which benefit from this chaos are now too powerful on the UN. The EU should also be making a better joint effort instead of leaving the border countries to just fend for themselves.

They are not the major cause, just one of the many causes.

https://www.paih.org/Glasgows-Housing-Emergency-Not-Caused-by-Refugees

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly0g184l9ro

Yes the skilled worker nonsense to work in a chicken shop or vape shop so plenty coming to UK using this method

"Positive Action in Housing is a Glasgow-based, Scotland-wide, independent, Black & Minority Ethnic led, antiracist homelessness and human rights charity (Scottish charity reg SCO27577) dedicated to supporting people from refugee and immigrant communities in rebuilding their lives."

Sounds like a super unbiased source.

@TonTonMacoute agree like they watched Putin build up on Ukraine border. These large organisations are useless .

Same. 1200+ sexual assaults on women. Yes they were assaulted by men, but all migrant men.

How else would Spain get workers for the canvas peach and tomato greenhouses? It needs to be people not unionised and that won’t be missed. Who else will work in such unbearable conditions so that tourists can enjoy the local cuisine?

Do they need 50,000 people to pick peaches?

So it's only tourists who eat peaches?

How about them supporting the people who were actually born there as a priority for a change

None of the locals eat local cuisine then, it's all the nasty tourists responsible for exploitation of migrant workers?

Most places aren't multi cultural because most areas including mine they keep themselves to themselves and don't mix. Perhaps unless people live in these types of areas might be best to be quiet as you don't have experience of living in these places.

I think the thread has jumped the shark with this comment.

Utterly ridiculous.

If people in t-shirts are being judged, then what hope do minorities have.

Please stop romantising these multi cultural areas.