AIBU to worry about large numbers of undocumented men arriving in Spain?

[MaturingCheeseball]

Thousands of young men from Morocco and beyond swimming to Spain. Spain obviously has encouraged the problem with their amnesty for existing migrants, but thousands more arriving with no means of support and undocumented is going to cause huge problems. Large numbers will no doubt be ultimately trying to reach the UK.

It’s harsh, but we cannot accept infinite numbers of men.

I think the point is that the vast majority of these migrants are men, yet three of the four who died are women.

Purely for economic benefits, like everyone else

Do people ignore what happened in cologne?

So in February Spain grants an amnesty for illegal migrants in Spain and follows this up with a Court ruling blocking the expulsion of new illegal migrants.

And somehow people are surprised that 60,000 illegal migrants forced their way into Spanish Ceuta?

If Spain has politically and judicially decided to lose control its own borders then Europe needs to control its border with Spain.

I saw that the figures are apparently 50% of the local population, in number, even 70% by the BBC's report.

Just imagine what that means - if most of those immigrants are men, there is now an extra male for every female in Ceuta, and that's if the figure is an extra 50%.

Because if they mention it then they will be called far right racists.

@1dayatatime I look forward to Europe tying to control it's borders.

It couldn't "close " them after the bataclan attack/Paris attack where 130 people were murdered and the perps fled back to Belgium

Denmark too now calling for Spain out of Shengen.

Do you not believe the data then?

Yes, they are still arriving
Yes, the arrivals are down 45% compared to same time last year and 19% the year before

Same in the whole of Europe.

What is happening in Ceuta isn't a normal event.

Selective memories. Not the mention to amount of people mainly women who have been sexually assaulted by a foreigner seeking asylum in the last few years. Random unavoidable attacks.

Well it might talk about the idea for 5 years, with various proposal legislation then settle on an ineffective watered down version.

But yes you are right I can't see it happening- besides we all need to "be kind".

More than 37,000 have now returned to Morocco.

They didn't pay the traffickers.

The response "white man bad as well"

No, but it is remembered 10 years on because it was a rare event.

I assume you don't ignore what happened in the aftermath of the Southport killings either.

The sad part is when convicted no matter what the background is, the supply and demand for prison space isn’t available. In order to put them in prison, thy have to let others out before the sentence is complete, its a revolving door.
If the government’s keep turning a blind eye they should at least build a few prisons.

Was there mass sexual assaults on women in the aftermath? I didn’t see that.

There have been warnings about not enough prisons/prison places for many years. It will take time to recitify.

You can build prisons but you need trained staff to run them.

There was a different kind of mass assaults

But maybe those victims weren't the right kind?

Both can and should be condemned.

Women, children and babies are weaker than the average man. Is there any other explanation that you're referring to.

Yes, there are other explanations. Read the accounts of women who survived and what those men were doing to them. Stop being naive.

Of course they matter, the conversation was about sexual assault. Can you see the difference in an angry mob after children were murdered brutally and an angry mob deciding to sexually assault women. Both wrong, not equal.

@HollyhocksandPeonsyou could just use English to explain what you mean

Cologne New Year might have been an unusual event, it’s not like things have been peaceful since then though.
Multiple stabbings, car rammings, gang rapes… New Year’s 2015 certainly wasn’t the last worrying incident.

Quite.

i keep banging on about how accepting absolutely anyone who arrives in a boat fits in with the housing crisis we’re constantly told about.

How do pps square this circle? Where are these people going to go?

I’m still hoping for an answer…anyone? Because that’s the nub of the problem.