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AIBU to worry about large numbers of undocumented men arriving in Spain?

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MaturingCheeseball · 30/07/2026 17:34

Thousands of young men from Morocco and beyond swimming to Spain. Spain obviously has encouraged the problem with their amnesty for existing migrants, but thousands more arriving with no means of support and undocumented is going to cause huge problems. Large numbers will no doubt be ultimately trying to reach the UK.

It’s harsh, but we cannot accept infinite numbers of men.

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randomchap · 31/07/2026 14:00

Lisheenss · 31/07/2026 13:51

Horrendous and undoubtedly co ordinated.
Europe has been destroyed.

Really? Destroyed?

Stop talking shite

parallhel · 31/07/2026 14:01

I'm wondering if other North African men will be emboldened now. For example Tunisia to Italy, a well worn path to Lampedusa swollen again, and maybe to Malta etc. Who knows? The domino effect is real, and the traffickers are everywhere now.

Meloni is threatening to suspend Schengen travel to Italy, I wonder what her response might be if 60,000 arrive in Sicily or wherever.

It is a deeply serious issue now I think for all countries in Europe. I hate to be THAT conspiracy theorist but there is something about this that smells of planning and organisation. I doubt it will end there.

IcedCoffee26 · 31/07/2026 14:01

OneStarAwake · 31/07/2026 13:59

No it hasn't been destroyed. I am sitting here, in Europe, typing this.

Sitting here in Spain, also not worried.

But then I don't consider a multi cultural society a destroyed one.

OneStarAwake · 31/07/2026 14:01

noddysyellowhat · 31/07/2026 14:00

Oh boy, whatever next ?🙄

I agree @MaturingCheeseball is being ridiculous.

Cucurella · 31/07/2026 14:01

IcedCoffee26 · 31/07/2026 13:40

Spain’s Sánchez blames trafficking gangs as estimated 60,000 migrants reach Ceuta with at least 34 dead – Europe live https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/jul/31/cueta-spain-morocco-italy-migration-schengen-europe-latest-news-updates?page=with%3Ablock-6a6c53488f08448bd1b0bb38

Sanchéz now in Ceuta.

As I said. Don't worry. Spain can deal with this just fine. Pedro Sanchéz is a very competent President.

@Cucurella the autonomous community of Andalucía is currently governed by a coalition of PP (right leaning mainstream party) and Vox (far right, similar to Reform type party). Their local news sources may reflect that.

My Spanish friends are perfectly capable of formulating their own opinions and if they wish to feel worried about the situation they are entitled to do so, in the same way that British people would be entitled to feel concerned if 60k people suddenly arrived on our shores. Their thinking is not determined purely by local news sources. They are concerned for the safety and wellbeing of their fellow citizens in Ceuta and the wider Spanish community.

OneStarAwake · 31/07/2026 14:04

Cucurella · 31/07/2026 14:01

My Spanish friends are perfectly capable of formulating their own opinions and if they wish to feel worried about the situation they are entitled to do so, in the same way that British people would be entitled to feel concerned if 60k people suddenly arrived on our shores. Their thinking is not determined purely by local news sources. They are concerned for the safety and wellbeing of their fellow citizens in Ceuta and the wider Spanish community.

IcedCoffee26 is in Spain!

Cucurella · 31/07/2026 14:05

IcedCoffee26 · 31/07/2026 14:01

Sitting here in Spain, also not worried.

But then I don't consider a multi cultural society a destroyed one.

Neither do I. I live in a small cul de sac of 10 houses and my neighbours are a mix of black, white, Asian and mixed race. The nationalities are German, French, British, Russian and Portuguese. I live in London, one of the most multicultural cities in the world and I wouldn’t live anywhere else.

I would still be concerned at 60000 illegal migrants arriving in one day.

IcedCoffee26 · 31/07/2026 14:05

Cucurella · 31/07/2026 14:01

My Spanish friends are perfectly capable of formulating their own opinions and if they wish to feel worried about the situation they are entitled to do so, in the same way that British people would be entitled to feel concerned if 60k people suddenly arrived on our shores. Their thinking is not determined purely by local news sources. They are concerned for the safety and wellbeing of their fellow citizens in Ceuta and the wider Spanish community.

Yes and those who are not worried, we are also entitled to feel how we feel.

I am just letting you know that your friends live in an autonomous community whose government are run by parties who will be rubbing their hands together in glee about this as they will try to use it as a way to discredit Sanchéz and the PSOE so there might be a little bit of bias in the reporting down there.

If you knew about who governs Andalucía at the moment and their political leanings, I apologise.

Cucurella · 31/07/2026 14:06

OneStarAwake · 31/07/2026 14:04

IcedCoffee26 is in Spain!

I realise that. But she cannot assume that she speaks for all Spanish people and that my friends opinions are formed by their local news. Their opinions are as valid as hers.

IcedCoffee26 · 31/07/2026 14:06

Cucurella · 31/07/2026 14:05

Neither do I. I live in a small cul de sac of 10 houses and my neighbours are a mix of black, white, Asian and mixed race. The nationalities are German, French, British, Russian and Portuguese. I live in London, one of the most multicultural cities in the world and I wouldn’t live anywhere else.

I would still be concerned at 60000 illegal migrants arriving in one day.

If they arrived in Gibraltar how worried would you be?

Of course that would be reported by the British press as Spain's fault also, no doubt 😬

HollyhocksandPeons · 31/07/2026 14:07

You are absolutely right to be concerned, but your view is at odds with quite of number of posters here, who see no problem with illegal migrants or legal migrants overrunning host countries.

Having said that, I have yet to see on MN a post along the lines of 'My dh and I decided to pay for 2, 3, 4 private school places for the children of new arrivals. Any advice gratefully appreciated.' And a flurry of responses - oh, me too, me too, us too, are also doing it. And of course, a number of dissenting answers 'we don't agree with private education, therefore my dh and I have decided to allow to live, rent-free, a family of the new arrivals'.

Cucurella · 31/07/2026 14:07

IcedCoffee26 · 31/07/2026 14:05

Yes and those who are not worried, we are also entitled to feel how we feel.

I am just letting you know that your friends live in an autonomous community whose government are run by parties who will be rubbing their hands together in glee about this as they will try to use it as a way to discredit Sanchéz and the PSOE so there might be a little bit of bias in the reporting down there.

If you knew about who governs Andalucía at the moment and their political leanings, I apologise.

I do know, yes, but no need to apologise. I am interested in your views.

localnotail · 31/07/2026 14:07

IcedCoffee26 · 31/07/2026 14:01

Sitting here in Spain, also not worried.

But then I don't consider a multi cultural society a destroyed one.

There is a lot of resentment in Spain towards tourists - "your Airbnb used to be my home" - as there is a housing crisis and there is not enough housing. So how is arrival of all these people going to help? It's not about their culture. Where they are going to live?

inamarina · 31/07/2026 14:08

ColourThief · 31/07/2026 13:06

The most sense in this whole thread, summed up in just two sentences 👏👏👏

Not really, no.

greencatwitch · 31/07/2026 14:08

Cucurella · 31/07/2026 09:10

Spain have now reported that 49000 migrants arrived in Ceuta yesterday. I feel for the Spanish people. Sanchez has allowed this to happen.

And our government continues to do nothing significant to stop the boats. Around 700 people, I imagine mostly men, in one day yesterday.

We are entitled to feel angry and threatened.

Get your facts right.

Our government is not 'doing nothing to stop the boats'.

Data from the University of Oxford shows that small boat arrivals in the first half of 2026 were about 41% lower than during the same period in 2025.

In fact small boat crossings were at their highest under the Tories.

IcedCoffee26 · 31/07/2026 14:08

Cucurella · 31/07/2026 14:06

I realise that. But she cannot assume that she speaks for all Spanish people and that my friends opinions are formed by their local news. Their opinions are as valid as hers.

I never said their opinions were invalid. I gave you information that I thought you might perhaps not have about the autonomous community of Andalucía 's current political climate.

Waitingfordoggo · 31/07/2026 14:08

LuckyHazelFox · 31/07/2026 09:01

That's already been done and combated. You'd see if you RTFT.

My apologies- I didn’t see the Epstein files mentioned.

Waxingmoons · 31/07/2026 14:10

Guess who creates unsafe environments so those who can, will flee? Blame the governments creating the conflicts and conditions these young men are running from. Sudan war, Iran war, etc

Spain has had similar policies to legalise its undocumented immigrants on a regular basis. It’s better for all concerned.

Only a few days ago everyone was celebrating Jamaal as a success story for a migrant family that was able to settle in Spain. Please, consider they as human beings full of potential not as future criminals. Many have died trying to escape horrible things. Love your neighbour is a good principle to live by.

Cucurella · 31/07/2026 14:10

IcedCoffee26 · 31/07/2026 14:06

If they arrived in Gibraltar how worried would you be?

Of course that would be reported by the British press as Spain's fault also, no doubt 😬

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I would be concerned for citizens in any country if 60k citizens landed on their shores in one day in the way they have in Ceuta.

Waitingfordoggo · 31/07/2026 14:10

EmeraldShamrock000 · 31/07/2026 09:04

Have you heard about the grooming gangs? Probably heard less about the grooming gangs than the Epstein files.
There are 100’s of brown and black children trafficked into Europe yearly for sexually abuse. 100’s of children. Many of those poor innocents children have already been raped over and over.

I’ve heard about all of those things, yes- you’ll notice I didn’t comment on them.

I was simply challenging the idea that billionaire men are not dangerous.

Cucurella · 31/07/2026 14:11

Waxingmoons · 31/07/2026 14:10

Guess who creates unsafe environments so those who can, will flee? Blame the governments creating the conflicts and conditions these young men are running from. Sudan war, Iran war, etc

Spain has had similar policies to legalise its undocumented immigrants on a regular basis. It’s better for all concerned.

Only a few days ago everyone was celebrating Jamaal as a success story for a migrant family that was able to settle in Spain. Please, consider they as human beings full of potential not as future criminals. Many have died trying to escape horrible things. Love your neighbour is a good principle to live by.

They’re coming from Morocco, a place people travel safely to for holidays.

greencatwitch · 31/07/2026 14:11

Lisheenss · 31/07/2026 13:51

Horrendous and undoubtedly co ordinated.
Europe has been destroyed.

Is that you Elon?

This is just hysterical nonsense.

LuckyHazelFox · 31/07/2026 14:13

Waitingfordoggo · 31/07/2026 14:08

My apologies- I didn’t see the Epstein files mentioned.

Sorry, I was sharp x

IcedCoffee26 · 31/07/2026 14:13

localnotail · 31/07/2026 14:07

There is a lot of resentment in Spain towards tourists - "your Airbnb used to be my home" - as there is a housing crisis and there is not enough housing. So how is arrival of all these people going to help? It's not about their culture. Where they are going to live?

In Catalunya, there will be no more Airbnb as of 2028.

Catalunya, a PSOE governed autonomous community.

As I said, I am not worried about Spain's ability to protect its residents and protect their fundamental rights.

Cucurella · 31/07/2026 14:14

I didn’t say ‘nothing’. I said ‘nothing significant’. The Tories did no better, I agree.

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