Vegans

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I find them a bit meh. I'm happy for them to do their own thing if they leave me alone. I think this is overstepping. Do vegans not have pets? After all, keeping pets is just forcing animals to live and be controlled by humans.

BBC News - Darlington birds of prey event cancelled after vegan groups' concern - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6214l61604o?app-referrer=deep-link

How are you typing with no sight though ?

Or get to the hospital ASAFP !

My daughter is vegan, not at all annoying. She’s just found that a vegan diet has improved her health (asthma and allergies). Works for her very well.

Re asthma, I’ve heard that swimming (it might have been specifically front crawl, I’m not sure) is good because it trains people to have more control over their lungs or something like that???

Not my concern tbh.

Fair enough. But you don't like them. You think of them as food. Not sentient beings. That's fine. It's the dishonesty that annoys me.

Very little considering they don’t have the capacity for that kind of thinking

😂😂😂

I can love them and love to eat them. Theyre my favourite animal.l

See, this is some of the annoying rhetoric that gets people’s backs up. Eating food you don’t approve of does not equate to “shoving…in their faces”. People are just eating these foods, you don’t need to make it a value judgement, suggesting gluttony. I’m sure it’s equally possible to “shove some lettuce in your face”.
Vegan or non vegan, people are just eating.

Just like the OP can’t relate to vegans, I can’t relate to those who eat animal flesh. I don’t go around forcing my views on anyone though, and I can respect people who eat meat, even though I don’t understand how they can do this.

@Wynter25 Well then I hope that cows are the only thing you love.
And btw, far better to respect other sentient beings, that may actually benefit them as opposed to this fake love that you profess you have for them which only sees them taken to the slaughter house.

Ignore her, she’s a wind up merchant, who has been banned a number of times,

This.

This thread is fucking ridiculous. Honestly MN and vegans needs it's own bloody board.

There is a vegan board isn’t there?

Are you possibly getting confused among multiple definitions of "vegan"? In the original definition, still the predominant one in US English, "vegans" are people who follow a diet that excludes animal products. The definition doesn't include any specific reason for this behaviour, doesn't require people to be militant or vocal or silent or anything in between about their diet, and doesn't account for any tangentially related activity like wearing animal skins or keeping pets. Someone could follow a vegan diet purely for perceived health reasons and none of your stipulations or projections would mean anything to them. In a more recent tag-on definition, which now appears to be primary in the UK, "vegans" are people who do not use animal products for any purpose.

That said, none of the vegans I know keep house pets, but I am a pescatarian and have a cat. Would that require a separate thread?

@CarbootJunction I would rather the animals never exist than exist just to be killed and eaten and just as you don't see the big deal about eating a free range egg or a chicken that has been killed I don't see what's the big deal about eating meat or dairy. I get by fine without it, well more than get by. I love cooking, eat a wide variety of lovely meals and get all the nutrients my body needs. People are different I guess.

For doing nothing wrong.

I never bullied anyone.

What about those eating a chicken salad?

There are some vegans commenting in this thread - I’d love to hear a vegan’s understanding of how they see humanity interacting with the animal kingdom in a perfect vegan world.

presumably there would be no farm animals, no pets, no zoos or safari parks, any wildlife rescues or animal sanctuaries for wild animals would not allow visitors to view the animals. So none of the animals which exist to serve humanity - no horses, dogs, cattle, pigs, chickens etc.

Do they envisage wild animals with no human interaction taking over from the 90% plus of the world’s animals (by mass) which will no longer exist, or do they envisage a world with far fewer animals and little or no interaction between humans and animals?

or do they envisage reserves set aside for a small number of these animals to live out their lives, unobserved by humans?

I’m genuinely interested to know what the end goal would look like for a vegan?

You got banned for doing nothing? Lol. Many people here and on other sites know what you did and mumsnet banned you because of it. You can’t help but out yourself when you make a new account by what you post. Very silly.

I love the idea of cows having an opinion on MN posters. Is there a Cowsnet? What forum topics do they have?