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If you support Farage, would you be able to explain why please.

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lightseeker · 10/07/2026 19:48

I know there have probably been other threads asking this, but really .... why?

Why would you say he is a "man of the people?"'(Public school educated stockbroker / multi millionaire)

Genuinely, what appeals about him?

If you voted Brexit, have you forgotten that he resigned from public office that day after his Leave campaign won?

It's an anonymous forum, so please be honest.

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lightseeker · Yesterday 17:06

I'm telling you how you can spot a Reform voter on here because they talk using certain sound bites. Propaganda happens insidiously through subtle language shifts. disseminated via certain media.

You keep putting 'fact' in bold type. My point was, that a few men arriving by boats may be criminals, sure. But the majority will not. Fact.

And yes, it is silly to keep parroting 'able bodied men.' As opposed to what?

The biggest joke are that those pointing the finger at the 'criminal boat people,' are more than happy to match and chant behind TOMMY ROBINSON - who we all know is more than familiar with the criminal underworld and the inside of a prison!

Whst proportion of the men on the TR marches have criminal records do we think? Yet apparently now, these are 'men of the people' marching for 'our women.' Anyone who falls in and chants along behind that lot is beyond help, frankly.

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KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 17:23

You can bleat on as much as you like @lightseeker about Farage and racist Reform voters. Your ideology is outdated. People are done with mass immigration.

The only hope of not having Reform in government next time was to keep Kier Starmer and let Shabana Mahmood implement the reasonable immigration policies and deport en mass illegal immigrants.

Now they have Burnham, who lost two contests to become leader, yet will be PM.
I think Bojo and Truss now have some competition on who was the worst PM this century.

lightseeker · Yesterday 18:01

Even if Farage did get the PM job, he'd probably resign immediately. All very well being a man with a slogan, stirring up division. He'd run a mile if he thinks he would actually have to to be held accountable for his 'policies.'

Ever heard him talk about building better housing for his constituents in Jayswick who are living in prefab huts - some of the worst housing in the U.K? No. He's only interested in the constituents he sees as easily-manipulated voting fodder. That's the only reason he would go there at all - holding his nose..Apart from that, he doesn't give a damn. We all know, Reform could deport all immigrants tomorrow, but the poorest and most vulnerable in our nation will still be where they are for a very long time because Farage will never prioritise anything that doesn't serve his own cynical agenda.

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5128gap · Yesterday 18:24

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 17:23

You can bleat on as much as you like @lightseeker about Farage and racist Reform voters. Your ideology is outdated. People are done with mass immigration.

The only hope of not having Reform in government next time was to keep Kier Starmer and let Shabana Mahmood implement the reasonable immigration policies and deport en mass illegal immigrants.

Now they have Burnham, who lost two contests to become leader, yet will be PM.
I think Bojo and Truss now have some competition on who was the worst PM this century.

Nonsense. People want more money in their pockets, access to affordable housing, good public services and a sense their children have a future.
If a government manages to get closer to those things, the hoo hah about immigration will fade away.
If a Reform government is voted in on the strength of its anti immigration policies, even in the highly unlikely event it executes them, but people find they are still hard up, badly housed and pessimistic about the future (which of course, they will, given immigration is a small contributer to these things) that government will be even more unpopular than previous administrations, because they over promised and failed to deliver.
Burnham has some good ideas to improve things for ordinary people. If things are better, they won't obsess about immigration.

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 19:46

FirstNationsEnglish · Yesterday 14:39

Just to clarify … are you suggesting that the many thousands of mainly young men, from cultures that do not align with the British way of life, and a significant number of whom are already convicted criminals even before they land illegally on our shores (but are only ‘discovered’ once they rape, murder, steal, here) are not being housed? Are you suggesting that they are not fed, clothed, given financial assistance or given free (that is absolutely free because they have never contributed, nor have their countries of origin have a reciprocal arrangement) medical care? What does happen to them whilst waiting for their cases to be heard? What do they do afterwards?

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Ok, let's settle on migrant. Migrant in home office accomodation. Answer the questions based on that. Let's assume the aim is to avoid inflammatory and hyperbolic language and deal instead in facts.

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 19:47

FirstNationsEnglish · Yesterday 14:39

Just to clarify … are you suggesting that the many thousands of mainly young men, from cultures that do not align with the British way of life, and a significant number of whom are already convicted criminals even before they land illegally on our shores (but are only ‘discovered’ once they rape, murder, steal, here) are not being housed? Are you suggesting that they are not fed, clothed, given financial assistance or given free (that is absolutely free because they have never contributed, nor have their countries of origin have a reciprocal arrangement) medical care? What does happen to them whilst waiting for their cases to be heard? What do they do afterwards?

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Who asked you for a torrent of bile? Post sensibly or sit down.

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 19:48

suburburban · Yesterday 15:56

I totally get the crimes being committed by those here argument but why import anymore people, we’ve got enough criminality here already

Where do you get that rhetoric? I hear it virtually word for word so often. Someone is telling you to say it - who?

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 19:50

lightseeker · Yesterday 16:00

It's astonishing how the media has insidiously ingrained certain set phrases into the national consciousness. It's like they have tapped into latent xenophobia that lies beneath the facade of a section of the public and given it a supposedly acceptable repetitive mantra of set 'GB News' phrases.

When Reform say they 'give a voice' to 'the people,' what is clear is that it's a very limited type of voice.

This is what the voices parrot, on repeat -

"Young able-bodied men"
"Men from cultures not aligning with our way of life"
"Women hating men"
"Men who rape our women."

Do the people who parrot this kind of thing ever just stop and actually listen to themselves..

A rapist is a certain personality type. Propensity to be a rapist, has nothing to do with ethnicity, or religion, or place of birth, or culture, or economic status or class within a society.

Why do you think an asylum seeker is more likely to be a rapist than the man who lives next-door to you? Why? Because GB News have declared this to be so? Because Farage and Robinson - "nooo, no misogyny with us, look over there - have whipped you up into a frenzy of fear? Why?

Yes women are treated differently across the world - to put it mildly. Sexual harassment will take different forms according to where you are - eg. British men tend to shout things out of vans or grope you in bars; men in Mediterranean countries do their own various versions of this; whereas men from other countries such as Afghanistan or Iran are more likely to stare in a way that makes you uncomfortable. We all know this. But what you can't say, is that men from any cultural group or religion have a higher propensity to be a rapist.

As a woman anywhere, you are far more likely to be raped or sexually abused by a male in your family, a male known to you, or on a date. If Farage et al really cared about women's safety, this is where their policies need to be targeted. More girls are raped at universities, every day of the week, than by 'boat people.' Far, far more children are sexually abused by their own fathers or grandfathers, than by random men of other ethnic groups in their society.

Men who are the biggest risk are often the ones who everyone thought was harmless. The quiet boy next-door who you never saw much (because he was chronically addicted to porn, online violence and incel culture).

All religions are misogynistic at the core. Being Muslim does not mean you are going to be more predisposed to be a rapist ffs! A man from Pakistan is no more likely to be a rapist than a man from Peterborough. This is so obvious. Well, I feel like this was obvious to everyone maybe ten years ago, but now certain people have been weirdly brainwashed by fear and 'othering.'

Whenever, there is a tragic murder or any horrific incident, GB News and the Reform contingent are literally waiting with bated breath to find out if it was an immigrant. If it was, the bias confirmation is exponential and off they go on a march. The days, there may even be riots. Farage will, of course, be all over the media. It's all so very predictable. But if it's a white man? No marches. No statements from Farage on the news. No tarring of all white British men as rapists, or groomers.

For instance, Anne Widdicombe has been murdered and it's horrific. If the murderer turns out to be any form of immigrant, there will probably be riots. Tommy Robinson will be out in a flash, leading his marches. If it is a white British man, there will be no riots or marches. This is the state of society due to the politics of hate and division.

Also, regarding people who flee from countries or regimes within countries - the key word is flee. Just because a man is born in Afghanistan, doesn't mean he is a member of the Taliban! Anyone arriving here is far more likely to be more against such regimes than anyone in Reform could even begin to comprehend.

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Excellent post, well said.

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 19:54

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 17:23

You can bleat on as much as you like @lightseeker about Farage and racist Reform voters. Your ideology is outdated. People are done with mass immigration.

The only hope of not having Reform in government next time was to keep Kier Starmer and let Shabana Mahmood implement the reasonable immigration policies and deport en mass illegal immigrants.

Now they have Burnham, who lost two contests to become leader, yet will be PM.
I think Bojo and Truss now have some competition on who was the worst PM this century.

You jest. Starmer was ousted almost exclusively because he was opening the door to Downing Street and ushering Reform in. The vast majority of the UK electorate is decent and wouldn't give Farage and his merry band the time of day. You only have to look at Caerphilly, Makerfield and Gorton & Denton to appreciate the strength of feeling against the hard right. People organised their own tactical voting to keep them out. Don't confuse your own longing for Reform with any widespread popularity on their part.

TankFlyBossW4lk · Yesterday 19:56

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 10/07/2026 19:53

Well it's working in Germany so why shouldn't it work here?

It is a clever strategy I don't know why you are being sarcastic.

Err no, it's not a clever strategy.

TankFlyBossW4lk · Yesterday 19:58

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 10/07/2026 20:10

Yes, it is immigration. Why do you think that it isn't?

Also poverty, but they blame that on immigration.

@MustTryHarderAndHarder

Do you think poverty will improve if we had no immigration at all?

MustTryHarderAndHarder · Yesterday 19:58

TankFlyBossW4lk · Yesterday 19:56

Err no, it's not a clever strategy.

It is if it stops the far-right gaining power or would you rather they did?

TankFlyBossW4lk · Yesterday 20:01

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 10/07/2026 20:43

I don't think that he will be able to do it because of the legal challenges, but he has said that he will and people need hope, so they vote for him

Who else are the going to vote for? The Tories and Labour have both proved that they can't do it.

The man doesn't even turn up to work. Really, it's that simple.

TankFlyBossW4lk · Yesterday 20:03

MustTryHarderAndHarder · Yesterday 19:58

It is if it stops the far-right gaining power or would you rather they did?

He is the far right. Are you a bit simple?

suburburban · Yesterday 20:36

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 19:48

Where do you get that rhetoric? I hear it virtually word for word so often. Someone is telling you to say it - who?

Oh yes I can’t think for myself

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 20:58

suburburban · Yesterday 20:36

Oh yes I can’t think for myself

Evidently. But that doesn't answer my question. Where does it come from?

Lemonraider · Yesterday 22:09

You don't think it's an ordinary natural reaction to the inevitable laissez-faire disinterested retort that white men rape?

As far as I can see the equality agenda is now so extreme that we have an equal opportunity approach to the worlds rapists in Britain because "white men rape". Anti white racists say it every time. White men rape so immigrants should have the same opportunity here. They want the statistics to balance out. We must have as many as possible immigrant rapists here and immigrant rape must increase in line with increasing immigration because "representation" is a goal, even in rape, for them to be happy, because "white men rape".

Equal opportunity for global rapists in Britain, it's public policy and the liberal left's preferred approach to immigration.

lightseeker · Yesterday 22:13

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EvieBB · Yesterday 22:15

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 13:40

@Theolittle What are you talking about?
You hate the English flag?
Have you ever visited Switzerland or France or Italy or America where the national flags are everywhere, and people are not considered racist for flying them?

Immigrants cross the channel primarily because when they get here they are given benefits, are not expected to pay into the system and are rarely deported.

Yes the indigenous population commit more crime, but why import women hating immigrants who rape even more women? What good is that?

High level immigration is good, the low level people we have been letting in is not.
It should not be that indefinite leave to remain is granted after only 5 years, that needs to be 10.

If Burnham eases up on immigration and bleats on about Palestine, then Reform will get in next time if they can field enough people.

But the flag is flown here as a hate symbol and I feel depressed when I see it flown for that reason

Sunshinesuzsie · Yesterday 22:24

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 19:47

Who asked you for a torrent of bile? Post sensibly or sit down.

What's nonsensical about that post?

Sunshinesuzsie · Yesterday 22:25

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He/she raises a good point, actually.

5128gap · Yesterday 22:41

Sunshinesuzsie · Yesterday 22:25

He/she raises a good point, actually.

Except its not a good point. Its a ridiculous point, offensively made.
People who say 'white men rape' are obviously making the point that the rape is not something caused by immigration and not something reducing immigration will get even close to solving.
I don't know if PP thought they were being clever in using rape to parody support for equalities, but its in appalling taste, to say the least.

FirstNationsEnglish · Yesterday 22:43

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 19:46

Ok, let's settle on migrant. Migrant in home office accomodation. Answer the questions based on that. Let's assume the aim is to avoid inflammatory and hyperbolic language and deal instead in facts.

A previous poster, the opening poster of the thread in fact, has made it clear earlier on this page, they do not much like facts. I think my post did answer your questions albeit in a roundabout way, and I reflected a couple back onto you. In the context of the people arriving here, illegally, via sea from France (and also it would seem now, from Belgium) I do not feel ‘migrant’ to be an honest description and actually sullies those migrant people and families who migrate here through sometimes difficult, long winded, but legal channels. Migrants who are honest about who they are and from where they originate, and who do not feel the need to destroy or ‘lose’ their paperwork because they have something to hide.

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 22:54

FirstNationsEnglish · Yesterday 22:43

A previous poster, the opening poster of the thread in fact, has made it clear earlier on this page, they do not much like facts. I think my post did answer your questions albeit in a roundabout way, and I reflected a couple back onto you. In the context of the people arriving here, illegally, via sea from France (and also it would seem now, from Belgium) I do not feel ‘migrant’ to be an honest description and actually sullies those migrant people and families who migrate here through sometimes difficult, long winded, but legal channels. Migrants who are honest about who they are and from where they originate, and who do not feel the need to destroy or ‘lose’ their paperwork because they have something to hide.

Stop hiding behind semantics. Answer the questions.