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If you support Farage, would you be able to explain why please.

328 replies

lightseeker · 10/07/2026 19:48

I know there have probably been other threads asking this, but really .... why?

Why would you say he is a "man of the people?"'(Public school educated stockbroker / multi millionaire)

Genuinely, what appeals about him?

If you voted Brexit, have you forgotten that he resigned from public office that day after his Leave campaign won?

It's an anonymous forum, so please be honest.

OP posts:
LilOleMe2 · 11/07/2026 23:37

Careful- you are going to throw your back out if you virtue signal any harder! You have no genuine interest in answers to this You are just trying to start a bunfight!

ThatMauveQuail · Yesterday 01:41

ClarkeandNewman · 11/07/2026 17:20

I think if you're going to use that (unverified) quote in point six you might want to make it clear you're referring to Thomas Sowell, the economist, rather than Thomas Sewell the neo-Nazi. Otherwise, the main body of your text would make it hard for the typical reader to know which one you endorse.

(As an ex-teacher, you may also want to check the first sentence in point six too, because it doesn't make sense.)

Apart from that, your post is genuinely funny.

Yes, I do mean Thomas Sowell.

Re "Your post is genuinely funny", sneering is not a substitute for argument but I get that it's
easier.

5128gap · Yesterday 07:42

Lemonraider · 11/07/2026 17:38

Why do you think the indigenous population should become a minority? What's your justification? Does this stand for everywhere? Are Nigerians racist for not becoming a minority in Nigeria? Please clarify.

My own view is that it doesn't matter what colour skin the people I share my environment with have. I don't care what their ethnicity is, what they wear, eat, or how they worship. I don't care if more people have a different skin colour to me than not.
I care only for a society that let's me live my life as I please within reasonable laws that don't disadvantage me and don't harm others.
Fear of becoming a white minority betrays a deep awareness of the racism you would try to deny.
You fear becoming a minority because you have observed how minorities are treated. You know that in the UK having a different skin colour, religion or ethnicity to the majority means you are disadvantaged, and you don't want the tables turned on you. Which is of course understandable.
My view in that is there's no point bleating about a shift in population demographic. If it happens, it happens. Energy is far better spent on breaking down inequalities due to race, working towards a society where it really makes no difference.

EvieBB · Yesterday 07:59

LilOleMe2 · 11/07/2026 23:37

Careful- you are going to throw your back out if you virtue signal any harder! You have no genuine interest in answers to this You are just trying to start a bunfight!

How do you know that? She might genuinely just want to understand (I know I do)

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 08:18

ThatMauveQuail · Yesterday 01:41

Yes, I do mean Thomas Sowell.

Re "Your post is genuinely funny", sneering is not a substitute for argument but I get that it's
easier.

Edited

I found your misinformed diatribe amusing. You've gotta laugh, right? The alternative is worse.

But glad you cleared up that you hadn't yet gone so far as to quote an actual neo Nazi!

Lovernotafighter83 · Yesterday 08:24

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 10/07/2026 19:50

I think a lot of people vote for him as a protest vote. Hoping that the other parties will take note and change their policies.

That is what is happening in Germany. The far right are getting stronger and stronger and so the other parties are changing their policies to appeal to far-right voters.

I think a lot of people will vote for reform so that that it happens in the UK as well.

Edited

I agree. I’m not a reform voter but my DH is and it’s all based on not feeling like they have a voice elsewhere, being bored of being over looked with very little meaningful change. Protest votes are definitely a real thing. I know some people who protest voted to leave the EU because of past experience with joining! It’s a messy system.

ThatMauveQuail · Yesterday 11:15

5128gap · Yesterday 07:42

My own view is that it doesn't matter what colour skin the people I share my environment with have. I don't care what their ethnicity is, what they wear, eat, or how they worship. I don't care if more people have a different skin colour to me than not.
I care only for a society that let's me live my life as I please within reasonable laws that don't disadvantage me and don't harm others.
Fear of becoming a white minority betrays a deep awareness of the racism you would try to deny.
You fear becoming a minority because you have observed how minorities are treated. You know that in the UK having a different skin colour, religion or ethnicity to the majority means you are disadvantaged, and you don't want the tables turned on you. Which is of course understandable.
My view in that is there's no point bleating about a shift in population demographic. If it happens, it happens. Energy is far better spent on breaking down inequalities due to race, working towards a society where it really makes no difference.

The UK is one of the most tolerant countries in the world. Name one that's more tolerant. Why do people risk their lives crossing the Channel to get here when they're already in a safe country?
Your post is naive at best.
I observe how minorities treat us (the rape gangs) when they're minorities.
I observe how minorities are treated now (Henry Nowak's killer, DEI nonsense that excludes white people from opportunities. I could go on but you get the gist).
You should read some Thomas Sowell (consevative American professor). In one article he asks if the Japanese have ever been disadvantaged by being homogeneous. He asks if the Balkans benefited by being heterogenous.
I am not arguing for no immigration and neither is Reform. Farage has repeatedly said that it is the pace and scale of immigration that is the issue because it affects integration.

Theolittle · Yesterday 11:41

ThatMauveQuail · Yesterday 11:15

The UK is one of the most tolerant countries in the world. Name one that's more tolerant. Why do people risk their lives crossing the Channel to get here when they're already in a safe country?
Your post is naive at best.
I observe how minorities treat us (the rape gangs) when they're minorities.
I observe how minorities are treated now (Henry Nowak's killer, DEI nonsense that excludes white people from opportunities. I could go on but you get the gist).
You should read some Thomas Sowell (consevative American professor). In one article he asks if the Japanese have ever been disadvantaged by being homogeneous. He asks if the Balkans benefited by being heterogenous.
I am not arguing for no immigration and neither is Reform. Farage has repeatedly said that it is the pace and scale of immigration that is the issue because it affects integration.

Yes the UK is tolerant. But I can’t stand the flags as they are at worst a sign of racism and at best make people living in communities feel unwanted and disliked. One welcome thing about the football is that the flags seem great again!

Immigrants cross the channel because they have contacts here and speak English. Many many more immigrants stay in EU countries rather than risking their lives crossing the channel, the UK has relatively few

You talk about immigrants committing horrible crimes as if they’re the only ones that commit horrible crimes. White British men commit crimes against women and children EVERY SINGLE DAY and no one goes rioting about it

When I was young there were biker gangs on the park plying teenage girls with alcohol. It wasn’t called rape then it was just part of life. I’m not condoning this but it’s not just Asians that treat women badly.

i am not someone that is racist and I do take everyone as I find them no matter the colour of their skin. Society absolutely benefits from immigration imo. But I do have a concern that parts of Britain are unrecognisable as “British” and can see how people that live there start to feel alienated. The irony is, after Brexit there are millions more coming legally from the cultures that people are sceptical about,where women have lesser rights, to fill the jobs that jmany young white people don’t want to do, rather than the EU migrants of that previously came.

ExBert80 · Yesterday 11:51

Not sure whether Farage will still be around for the next GE, but even if he wasn’t, Reform will get in. A lot of BAME support Reform, not just white people. People want change, proper change. That change may be a good or a bad thing, but change is what is craved. Reform are going to lead this country whether we like it or not, lead us into a golden future, or lead us into the dung heap, they are going to be heading up the country, for at least one term. If they only make one term they will be consigned to the history books, like Labour will be because people have no faith in them either. It will take a miracle for Labour to get in again.

MustTryHarderAndHarder · Yesterday 13:02

Lovernotafighter83 · Yesterday 08:24

I agree. I’m not a reform voter but my DH is and it’s all based on not feeling like they have a voice elsewhere, being bored of being over looked with very little meaningful change. Protest votes are definitely a real thing. I know some people who protest voted to leave the EU because of past experience with joining! It’s a messy system.

Yes, my DH also voted Reform and he is the most un-racist white person I have ever met. He often does not see colour at all (sometimes I point out that someone is non-white and he has not even noticed).

He gets so angry when other white people speak to him about negatively about non-white people expecting him to agree with them.

But he votes Reform because he is fed up of the way that people of all colours are able to come here when there are British people (of all colours) who are homeless.

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 13:40

@Theolittle What are you talking about?
You hate the English flag?
Have you ever visited Switzerland or France or Italy or America where the national flags are everywhere, and people are not considered racist for flying them?

Immigrants cross the channel primarily because when they get here they are given benefits, are not expected to pay into the system and are rarely deported.

Yes the indigenous population commit more crime, but why import women hating immigrants who rape even more women? What good is that?

High level immigration is good, the low level people we have been letting in is not.
It should not be that indefinite leave to remain is granted after only 5 years, that needs to be 10.

If Burnham eases up on immigration and bleats on about Palestine, then Reform will get in next time if they can field enough people.

mashandgravy · Yesterday 14:03

Izzyink · 10/07/2026 19:56

I doubt Reform voters are that bright. It's all about the 'boat' people to Reform voters.

You mean the many thousands of mostly men from incompatible cultures showing up on our shores and being housed and accommodated at the taxpayer's expense? Those boat people?

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 14:17

mashandgravy · Yesterday 14:03

You mean the many thousands of mostly men from incompatible cultures showing up on our shores and being housed and accommodated at the taxpayer's expense? Those boat people?

Edited

Explain that housing. What it's like, what refugees are given to go along with their housing, what happens to them while waiting for their cases to be heard, what happens afterwards. It would be interesting to hear your perspective.

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 14:19

MustTryHarderAndHarder · Yesterday 13:02

Yes, my DH also voted Reform and he is the most un-racist white person I have ever met. He often does not see colour at all (sometimes I point out that someone is non-white and he has not even noticed).

He gets so angry when other white people speak to him about negatively about non-white people expecting him to agree with them.

But he votes Reform because he is fed up of the way that people of all colours are able to come here when there are British people (of all colours) who are homeless.

Not "seeing colour" doesn't make someone less likely to be racist. Often the opposite in fact. You know your husband, I'm not casting any aspersions on him. Just pointing out that being apparently "colourblind" is no indicator of whether someone hold racist views or not.

mashandgravy · Yesterday 14:24

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 14:17

Explain that housing. What it's like, what refugees are given to go along with their housing, what happens to them while waiting for their cases to be heard, what happens afterwards. It would be interesting to hear your perspective.

They're not refugees.

PrettyLittleRose · Yesterday 14:25

EvieBB · Yesterday 07:59

How do you know that? She might genuinely just want to understand (I know I do)

It's none of your business.

No-one has to explain themselves to you - or anyone else.

Just so they can be mocked and derided and berated - and called thick, racist, stupid, uneducated, gammon, flag shagger etc etc etc...

.

PrettyLittleRose · Yesterday 14:27

mashandgravy · Yesterday 14:24

They're not refugees.

Exactly!

PrettyLittleRose · Yesterday 14:29

mashandgravy · Yesterday 14:03

You mean the many thousands of mostly men from incompatible cultures showing up on our shores and being housed and accommodated at the taxpayer's expense? Those boat people?

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This. ^

Theolittle · Yesterday 14:32

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FirstNationsEnglish · Yesterday 14:39

ClarkeandNewman · Yesterday 14:17

Explain that housing. What it's like, what refugees are given to go along with their housing, what happens to them while waiting for their cases to be heard, what happens afterwards. It would be interesting to hear your perspective.

Just to clarify … are you suggesting that the many thousands of mainly young men, from cultures that do not align with the British way of life, and a significant number of whom are already convicted criminals even before they land illegally on our shores (but are only ‘discovered’ once they rape, murder, steal, here) are not being housed? Are you suggesting that they are not fed, clothed, given financial assistance or given free (that is absolutely free because they have never contributed, nor have their countries of origin have a reciprocal arrangement) medical care? What does happen to them whilst waiting for their cases to be heard? What do they do afterwards?

Lemonraider · Yesterday 14:45

5128gap · Yesterday 07:42

My own view is that it doesn't matter what colour skin the people I share my environment with have. I don't care what their ethnicity is, what they wear, eat, or how they worship. I don't care if more people have a different skin colour to me than not.
I care only for a society that let's me live my life as I please within reasonable laws that don't disadvantage me and don't harm others.
Fear of becoming a white minority betrays a deep awareness of the racism you would try to deny.
You fear becoming a minority because you have observed how minorities are treated. You know that in the UK having a different skin colour, religion or ethnicity to the majority means you are disadvantaged, and you don't want the tables turned on you. Which is of course understandable.
My view in that is there's no point bleating about a shift in population demographic. If it happens, it happens. Energy is far better spent on breaking down inequalities due to race, working towards a society where it really makes no difference.

Where have I mentioned skin colour? That's just you.

Lemonraider · Yesterday 14:47

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2076183092700565865.html

If an employer benefits from a larger labour supply, while the state must provide additional housing, water, sewage capacity, healthcare, education and transport, and lower-paid communities experience the greatest local pressure, it is perfectly legitimate for a workers' party to ask whether the benefits and costs are being distributed fairly.

Labour write these rules. They made these arguments.

So when did making these same points start becoming a "far right" narrative?

Thread by @KingBobIIV on Thread Reader App

@KingBobIIV: 🧵 I have spent days going back through old Labour governments, Labour manifestos, speeches and Hansard, because I wanted to know when it apparently became "far-right" to suggest that rapid population gr...…

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2076183092700565865.html

suburburban · Yesterday 15:56

Theolittle · Yesterday 11:41

Yes the UK is tolerant. But I can’t stand the flags as they are at worst a sign of racism and at best make people living in communities feel unwanted and disliked. One welcome thing about the football is that the flags seem great again!

Immigrants cross the channel because they have contacts here and speak English. Many many more immigrants stay in EU countries rather than risking their lives crossing the channel, the UK has relatively few

You talk about immigrants committing horrible crimes as if they’re the only ones that commit horrible crimes. White British men commit crimes against women and children EVERY SINGLE DAY and no one goes rioting about it

When I was young there were biker gangs on the park plying teenage girls with alcohol. It wasn’t called rape then it was just part of life. I’m not condoning this but it’s not just Asians that treat women badly.

i am not someone that is racist and I do take everyone as I find them no matter the colour of their skin. Society absolutely benefits from immigration imo. But I do have a concern that parts of Britain are unrecognisable as “British” and can see how people that live there start to feel alienated. The irony is, after Brexit there are millions more coming legally from the cultures that people are sceptical about,where women have lesser rights, to fill the jobs that jmany young white people don’t want to do, rather than the EU migrants of that previously came.

I totally get the crimes being committed by those here argument but why import anymore people, we’ve got enough criminality here already

lightseeker · Yesterday 16:00

It's astonishing how the media has insidiously ingrained certain set phrases into the national consciousness. It's like they have tapped into latent xenophobia that lies beneath the facade of a section of the public and given it a supposedly acceptable repetitive mantra of set 'GB News' phrases.

When Reform say they 'give a voice' to 'the people,' what is clear is that it's a very limited type of voice.

This is what the voices parrot, on repeat -

"Young able-bodied men"
"Men from cultures not aligning with our way of life"
"Women hating men"
"Men who rape our women."

Do the people who parrot this kind of thing ever just stop and actually listen to themselves..

A rapist is a certain personality type. Propensity to be a rapist, has nothing to do with ethnicity, or religion, or place of birth, or culture, or economic status or class within a society.

Why do you think an asylum seeker is more likely to be a rapist than the man who lives next-door to you? Why? Because GB News have declared this to be so? Because Farage and Robinson - "nooo, no misogyny with us, look over there - have whipped you up into a frenzy of fear? Why?

Yes women are treated differently across the world - to put it mildly. Sexual harassment will take different forms according to where you are - eg. British men tend to shout things out of vans or grope you in bars; men in Mediterranean countries do their own various versions of this; whereas men from other countries such as Afghanistan or Iran are more likely to stare in a way that makes you uncomfortable. We all know this. But what you can't say, is that men from any cultural group or religion have a higher propensity to be a rapist.

As a woman anywhere, you are far more likely to be raped or sexually abused by a male in your family, a male known to you, or on a date. If Farage et al really cared about women's safety, this is where their policies need to be targeted. More girls are raped at universities, every day of the week, than by 'boat people.' Far, far more children are sexually abused by their own fathers or grandfathers, than by random men of other ethnic groups in their society.

Men who are the biggest risk are often the ones who everyone thought was harmless. The quiet boy next-door who you never saw much (because he was chronically addicted to porn, online violence and incel culture).

All religions are misogynistic at the core. Being Muslim does not mean you are going to be more predisposed to be a rapist ffs! A man from Pakistan is no more likely to be a rapist than a man from Peterborough. This is so obvious. Well, I feel like this was obvious to everyone maybe ten years ago, but now certain people have been weirdly brainwashed by fear and 'othering.'

Whenever, there is a tragic murder or any horrific incident, GB News and the Reform contingent are literally waiting with bated breath to find out if it was an immigrant. If it was, the bias confirmation is exponential and off they go on a march. The days, there may even be riots. Farage will, of course, be all over the media. It's all so very predictable. But if it's a white man? No marches. No statements from Farage on the news. No tarring of all white British men as rapists, or groomers.

For instance, Anne Widdicombe has been murdered and it's horrific. If the murderer turns out to be any form of immigrant, there will probably be riots. Tommy Robinson will be out in a flash, leading his marches. If it is a white British man, there will be no riots or marches. This is the state of society due to the politics of hate and division.

Also, regarding people who flee from countries or regimes within countries - the key word is flee. Just because a man is born in Afghanistan, doesn't mean he is a member of the Taliban! Anyone arriving here is far more likely to be more against such regimes than anyone in Reform could even begin to comprehend.

OP posts:
FirstNationsEnglish · Yesterday 16:37

lightseeker · Yesterday 16:00

It's astonishing how the media has insidiously ingrained certain set phrases into the national consciousness. It's like they have tapped into latent xenophobia that lies beneath the facade of a section of the public and given it a supposedly acceptable repetitive mantra of set 'GB News' phrases.

When Reform say they 'give a voice' to 'the people,' what is clear is that it's a very limited type of voice.

This is what the voices parrot, on repeat -

"Young able-bodied men"
"Men from cultures not aligning with our way of life"
"Women hating men"
"Men who rape our women."

Do the people who parrot this kind of thing ever just stop and actually listen to themselves..

A rapist is a certain personality type. Propensity to be a rapist, has nothing to do with ethnicity, or religion, or place of birth, or culture, or economic status or class within a society.

Why do you think an asylum seeker is more likely to be a rapist than the man who lives next-door to you? Why? Because GB News have declared this to be so? Because Farage and Robinson - "nooo, no misogyny with us, look over there - have whipped you up into a frenzy of fear? Why?

Yes women are treated differently across the world - to put it mildly. Sexual harassment will take different forms according to where you are - eg. British men tend to shout things out of vans or grope you in bars; men in Mediterranean countries do their own various versions of this; whereas men from other countries such as Afghanistan or Iran are more likely to stare in a way that makes you uncomfortable. We all know this. But what you can't say, is that men from any cultural group or religion have a higher propensity to be a rapist.

As a woman anywhere, you are far more likely to be raped or sexually abused by a male in your family, a male known to you, or on a date. If Farage et al really cared about women's safety, this is where their policies need to be targeted. More girls are raped at universities, every day of the week, than by 'boat people.' Far, far more children are sexually abused by their own fathers or grandfathers, than by random men of other ethnic groups in their society.

Men who are the biggest risk are often the ones who everyone thought was harmless. The quiet boy next-door who you never saw much (because he was chronically addicted to porn, online violence and incel culture).

All religions are misogynistic at the core. Being Muslim does not mean you are going to be more predisposed to be a rapist ffs! A man from Pakistan is no more likely to be a rapist than a man from Peterborough. This is so obvious. Well, I feel like this was obvious to everyone maybe ten years ago, but now certain people have been weirdly brainwashed by fear and 'othering.'

Whenever, there is a tragic murder or any horrific incident, GB News and the Reform contingent are literally waiting with bated breath to find out if it was an immigrant. If it was, the bias confirmation is exponential and off they go on a march. The days, there may even be riots. Farage will, of course, be all over the media. It's all so very predictable. But if it's a white man? No marches. No statements from Farage on the news. No tarring of all white British men as rapists, or groomers.

For instance, Anne Widdicombe has been murdered and it's horrific. If the murderer turns out to be any form of immigrant, there will probably be riots. Tommy Robinson will be out in a flash, leading his marches. If it is a white British man, there will be no riots or marches. This is the state of society due to the politics of hate and division.

Also, regarding people who flee from countries or regimes within countries - the key word is flee. Just because a man is born in Afghanistan, doesn't mean he is a member of the Taliban! Anyone arriving here is far more likely to be more against such regimes than anyone in Reform could even begin to comprehend.

Edited

It would appear that in your head you are making- up things that have never been said, or putting your own prejudiced embellishment onto people’s genuine concerns. You also would appear to unable to see beyond your prejudiced stereotype of the very many people who do not align with your way of thinking -people who live with the adverse consequences of a significantly increased population, of a particular demographic, being foisted onto their communities.

1 "Young able-bodied men"
2 "Men from cultures not aligning with our way of life"
3 "Women hating men"
3 "Men who rape our women."

1, The vast majority of people arriving, illegally, on our shores are able-bodied young men. It is a matter of fact. Perhaps it is folk like your good self who appear to object to this fact, is the reason you perceive it being ‘parroted on repeat’?

2, For whatever reason, you appear, again, to not accept that many of the people arriving, illegally, on our shores come from cultures that do not align with the British way of life. It is a matter of fact. Perhaps it is folk like your good self who appear to object to this fact, is the reason you perceive it being ‘parroted on repeat’?

3 Well, there are a number of folk who hate women, but why would you want to import more? See 2 for further information.

4 It is a matter of fact that a significant number of the men arriving, illegally, on our shores have not only raped, but also murdered British women. Perhaps it is folk like your good self who appear to object to this fact, is the reason you perceive it being ‘parroted on repeat’?