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AIBU to refuse weekly lifts to a neighbour's hospital appointments?

564 replies

IGotDreams · Today 10:40

We have lived in our house for 4 years and know the neighbours to say hello to, taken a parcel in for them occasionally, we chat sometimes but we don’t know them well. We are friendly but not friends. We are busy with work, kids and general life.

One of the neighbours has asked if we can take her to a hospital appointment once every week for the next 4 weeks. One of their adult children can apparently bring her home.

Technically we could do it if we moved things around without too much difficulty, but as we don’t know her well, we said no. She looked shocked when we said we couldn’t help and she walked away without saying goodbye.

I mentioned it to my parents in passing last week and they said I should have said I’d help but I explained we are busy and she can make other arrangements. When I spoke to my parents last night, they asked me if I had changed my mind and was going to help the neighbour out. I said no and that we hadn’t even thought/spoke about it since as we are busy. My mum said I should be willing to help people more. I disagreed. We are busy and have enough going on with our own family and friends and that the neighbours aren’t my responsibility. In my neighbours situation, I wouldn’t ask for help from neighbours who we hardly know.

Would you have helped? I won’t be changing my mind and helping but wondered if people would generally be more helpful than me. I did say to my parents that they could help my neighbours out if they wanted to but apparently it isn’t there place to. They said they would do it for their own neighbours if asked.

OP posts:
BellaBobandBernietoo · Today 11:24

YANBU - I have done lots for my neighbours over the last 28 years, not one of them has helped us out in any way.

Also, there is no way I would expect my parent's neighbours to ferry them to hospital every week especially if they don't know them well, I would move all of my plans etc to do that myself or arrange for a taxi etc.

Moveoverdarlin · Today 11:24

As a gesture of goodwill and to keep neighbourly relations amicable I think I would have compromised and said something like ‘I can do the first week but not the others, have you tried that local cab firm? They’re really good.’

I think a bit of a chit-chat back and forth about how to best help them would have been nicer than a flat no.

Having a good relationship with your NDN is pretty important.

BeaLola · Today 11:24

I said context was everything. Perhaps the fact it was a 2hr round trip and the fact you are working all day could have been mentioned in post as it would have changed quite a few responses

IGotDreams · Today 11:25

MayaLui · Today 11:21

I think it's nice to have a community though. No man is an island and all that. Did you never do playdates or childcare favours either?

We did play dates. I only looked after friends and family children as a favour though and never asked anyone for childcare that wasn’t friends, family or paid for.

OP posts:
Silverbirchleaf · Today 11:25

IGotDreams · Today 11:23

If she was let down on the day and had no alternative, I would have helped if I was free. Thats a very different scenario to this.

Don’t offer ‘in an emergency’ because she may deliberately not arrange a lift…

Passingthrough123 · Today 11:26

Genuinely surprised by the amount of posters who'd be willing to rearrange their work schedule to drive a neighbour they don't know that well to a hospital an hour away. Do you really mean it or are you just saying it to make OP feel bad for saying no?

WeatherOrNothing · Today 11:26

Cheeky F!
2 hours?? Damn cheek. To look shocked and walk off like that. Good for not being a pushover!

Kirbert2 · Today 11:26

SunIsGreat · Today 11:24

My child has regular hospital appointments and of course I do the two hour round trip for my child. This is part of the reason I wouldn't have time to schedule a two hour round trip for a neighbour for four weeks. There have also been times I've taken my child by taxi, so it can be done. Ten minutes away, sure. Two hours is a huge ask for many people.

Taxis are expensive, not everyone can afford it.

OP did initially say that she could do it without too much difficulty.

Owly11 · Today 11:27

A two hour round trip once a week for four weeks - that is a very big ask. I think maybe if the neighbour had told you the four dates and asked if you could do one of them that would have been more reasonable but still quite a big favour from someone she doesn't know well. Asking for all four sounds cheeky to me. She could ask you to do one, another neighbour to do another, arrange a taxi for another and a friend for another. I would have said no because I simply don't have two hours free in the day time. YANBU and your parents are being unreasonable to be telling you what you should and shouldn't be doing.

WeatherOrNothing · Today 11:27

Passingthrough123 · Today 11:26

Genuinely surprised by the amount of posters who'd be willing to rearrange their work schedule to drive a neighbour they don't know that well to a hospital an hour away. Do you really mean it or are you just saying it to make OP feel bad for saying no?

I would think lots of liars. Can’t imagine anyone with kids, school run, an actual job would fiddle and fart around with a 2 hour trip on a work day.
this is Mn though 😅

GardenAnarchist · Today 11:27

Passingthrough123 · Today 11:26

Genuinely surprised by the amount of posters who'd be willing to rearrange their work schedule to drive a neighbour they don't know that well to a hospital an hour away. Do you really mean it or are you just saying it to make OP feel bad for saying no?

Wot I reckon is it's the naice equivalent of being a keyboard warrior Wink

Gealach · Today 11:27

you mentioned it was an hours drive away so no I don’t think I could do that. I would have thought about it and I would help out a neighbour when possible. I would have been kinder in my reply to her. She is clearly very ill to have so many appointments and she must feel desperate to ask.

I think I’d try and investigate another solution for her.

OvernightBloats · Today 11:28

Does she know that you work from home? She probably assumes you have lots of free time because your car is at your house during the day.

The neighbour was cheeky to ask for such a huge favour and very rude when you told her it wasn't possible. Why can't her children help? Why can't she pay for her own transport? Why can't she ask a friend?

Her ungracious response to you shows that she has no understanding or consideration. Her transport is not your responsibility and shouldn't guilt you when you said no.

QueenOfSwedenRose · Today 11:28

IGotDreams · Today 11:11

Yes we work from home, but we still have to work! We both start work around 7am ish, one of us takes a break to take the kids to school and college and pick them up and then work til 5pm ish.

The hospital is an hours drive away so 2 hours round trip for us.

She is 60 ish, lives alone but has a partner who doesn’t live with her. I see him there sometimes but I don’t know how often she sees him.

She looked shocked, said ‘right’ and walked off without saying goodbye.

What's the reason for a 60 year old being unable to get themselves to the hospital? Either drive, public transport or taxi?

SunIsGreat · Today 11:28

Kirbert2 · Today 11:26

Taxis are expensive, not everyone can afford it.

OP did initially say that she could do it without too much difficulty.

I used my child's disability funding to pay for it.

I think two hours would be difficult for most people. If I could combine it with something else in the area then I might be able to do one or two of the weeks. It doesn't make sense for me to take time off work when the neighbour's child could take time off work though.

thepariscrimefiles · Today 11:29

CurlewKate · Today 10:55

Why on earth would you say no?

Because she hardly knows her neighbour and OP isn't a taxi driver.

Why on earth would the neighbour who hardly knows OP ask her to take her to a hospital appointment, not just once but four weeks' running? OP mentioned that this woman's adult child would give her a lift back so why can't they take her there as well? If they have other commitments, they should cancel them for their own mum.

britnay · Today 11:29

A lot of people think that people who work from home aren't really working. I work from home, and while I can be flexible with my hours, I can't just randomly "pop out" for two hours to run an errand for someone else. Those who are saying that you should help her, how many of your work places would be happy with this?

Your hospital should have a patient transport service. This is usually run by volunteers. Why don't you pass on the details to your neighbour :)

MustTryHarderAndHarder · Today 11:29

Bloozie · Today 10:43

I voted YABU because I can't imagine how desperate I'd need to be to ask a neighbour I don't really know for a regular lift to the hospital.

There are neighbours I see once a year at another neighbour's annual christmas gathering. If Donna or Tony came and asked ME for a lift, I'd know that they'd exhausted other options and I'd step in.

Do you know why they asked you? What the condition is?

You have no idea how desperate they are or if they just being cheeky because they don't want to pay for a taxi.

Some people just expect everything for free unfortunately and you don't know if they are really desperate or not.

Just because you are decent and wouldn't take advantage, it doesn't mean that others won't.

You must have read all the CF stories on here.

Kirbert2 · Today 11:30

SunIsGreat · Today 11:28

I used my child's disability funding to pay for it.

I think two hours would be difficult for most people. If I could combine it with something else in the area then I might be able to do one or two of the weeks. It doesn't make sense for me to take time off work when the neighbour's child could take time off work though.

I was going by OP saying that it wouldn't be too difficult for her. She seems to have changed her story now though.

bigboykitty · Today 11:31

You should have said in your OP that it's a 2 hour round trip. It was really inappropriate of her to ask anyway and to be rude afterwards was awful. I'd do it for a good friend. Not for an acquaintance or for a neighbour I barely knew.

QueenOfSwedenRose · Today 11:32

QueenOfSwedenRose · Today 11:28

What's the reason for a 60 year old being unable to get themselves to the hospital? Either drive, public transport or taxi?

I'm only 5 years less than that. Is there some disability or something that means she can't get herself to places?

thepariscrimefiles · Today 11:32

IGotDreams · Today 11:11

Yes we work from home, but we still have to work! We both start work around 7am ish, one of us takes a break to take the kids to school and college and pick them up and then work til 5pm ish.

The hospital is an hours drive away so 2 hours round trip for us.

She is 60 ish, lives alone but has a partner who doesn’t live with her. I see him there sometimes but I don’t know how often she sees him.

She looked shocked, said ‘right’ and walked off without saying goodbye.

That's outrageous! A two hour round trip when you should be working? She's only in her 60s so should be capable or ordering an Uber.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · Today 11:32

If you do it , she might say " My appointment will only be half an hour . Why don't you get yourself a coffee and I;ll get a lift back with you ? I;ll just let Gavin know he doesn't need to collect me . As you're already here ......"

Parking ££
Coffee££
Sitting in a hospital with rubbish WiFi Angry

Anyahyacinth · Today 11:32

IGotDreams · Today 10:45

But Ubers/public transport are available. She didn’t tell me what the condition is and I didn’t ask. It wouldn’t have altered my answer anyway.

Edited

A taxi often let's you down, is used by multiple people etc etc...

It's clearly not the same interchangeable thing. I would have done what I could to help and been super grateful for my own health.. what it must have taken to ask you 😔

SunIsGreat · Today 11:32

Kirbert2 · Today 11:30

I was going by OP saying that it wouldn't be too difficult for her. She seems to have changed her story now though.

Either way, I think the neighbour reaction showed OP did the right thing. Did she offer any petrol money OP?

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