Help end medical misogyny. Sign our petition.

Help end medical misogyny.
Sign our petition.

Sign the petition

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU to be English,  but really really want  Scotland to win the world cup.

383 replies

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:36

After decades of disappointment I've pretty much given up on watching England with any hope.

I have Scottish in laws and love the place anyway but after seeing all the videos of the tartan army in Boston I'd so love for them to win ( however unlikely that may be!)

OP posts:
Thread gallery
5
theresbeautyinwindysun · 17/06/2026 18:53

I’m Scottish and I want England to win

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 17/06/2026 19:02

BuildbyNumbere · 17/06/2026 18:53

Unlikely they are football fans.

So they said it but you’re decided it doesn’t count 🤣

BuildbyNumbere · 17/06/2026 19:30

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 17/06/2026 19:02

So they said it but you’re decided it doesn’t count 🤣

I was talking about football fans … 🤷🏻‍♀️

soupmaker · 17/06/2026 19:35

theresbeautyinwindysun · 17/06/2026 18:53

I’m Scottish and I want England to win

Aye, right. 😂

dopaminego · 17/06/2026 19:40

countrylife00 · 17/06/2026 18:28

Well having lived in Scotland, I totally understand why they are so jealous of the English lol.

Can't think why you weren't well liked by the Scots. What a mystery!

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 17/06/2026 19:47

BuildbyNumbere · 17/06/2026 18:53

Unlikely they are football fans.

You’re so blinded by your own bias you’ve stopped even pretending to read what people actually wrote.

Multiple posters have already said they support Scotland or England, yet you’re still trying to speak for them as if their own words don’t matter.

You’re not correcting anyone — you’re just inventing a narrative because the real one doesn’t suit you.

It’s beyond pathetic at this point.

Differentforgirls · 17/06/2026 19:47

NotAnotherScarf · 16/06/2026 21:41

I understand your sentiments...but do watch the video of Scotland fans in 1977 at Wembley. The media has painted a rosey picture of these lovely Scottish people in their wee kilts and hats... whilst churning out the view that the English are like the hordes of Atilla the Hun. Whilst the huge majority of Scotland fans are well behaved, I have personal experience of the opposite.

50 years ago?

six666 · 17/06/2026 19:53

countrylife00 · 16/06/2026 22:07

Um. You said you wanted Scotland to win.
I am still waiting for a single Scottish person to say they want England to win……
I might have a long wait.

I am a Scottish person and I would be delighted if England won....

Differentforgirls · 17/06/2026 19:53

Catsandcheese · 16/06/2026 22:48

What rubbish.

Ned land with a wee 🥲. Jeezo.

bignewprinz · 17/06/2026 19:58

I'm English and watching/cheering for both. Not least because I am a Villa supporter and John McGinn is one of my heros ♥️

StrictlyCoffee · 17/06/2026 19:59

YANBU but I can’t imagine it’s likely!

I am Scottish but would love England to do well

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 17/06/2026 20:01

NotAnotherScarf · 16/06/2026 21:41

I understand your sentiments...but do watch the video of Scotland fans in 1977 at Wembley. The media has painted a rosey picture of these lovely Scottish people in their wee kilts and hats... whilst churning out the view that the English are like the hordes of Atilla the Hun. Whilst the huge majority of Scotland fans are well behaved, I have personal experience of the opposite.

Using the 1977 Wembley incident as if it defines Scotland fans today is just outdated.

Football in the 70s was chaotic everywhere, and it’s simply not accurate to pretend that was some uniquely Scottish disgrace.

If we’re going to talk about fan behaviour, then we can’t ignore the far more serious and far more recent issues involving England supporters.

The Euro 2020 Wembley disorder, the Marseille clashes in 2016, and a long list of fines and sanctions over the years didn’t appear out of thin air.

That’s not an attack on anyone’s identity — it’s just acknowledging well‑documented events.

Meanwhile, the Tartan Army has spent decades building a reputation as one of the friendliest and most respectful travelling supports in Europe. Host cities praise them. UEFA praises them. Rival fans praise them.

That reputation exists because it reflects how the vast majority behave.

You’ve had a few bad encounters, and that’s fair enough. Everyone has with every fanbase. But using isolated personal experiences to paint Scotland fans as the problem, while overlooking the much larger and more recent issues elsewhere, isn’t a balanced comparison.

The reality today is straightforward: Scotland fans overwhelmingly travel well, behave well, and bring atmosphere rather than trouble.

That’s why there positive stereotype exists worldwide! #NoScotlandNoParty

Alba1981 · 17/06/2026 20:03

Livelovebehappy · 16/06/2026 23:47

England all the way for me. But I do feel sorry for Scotland. They just never seem to be successful at any sport. It must be frustrating for them….

Andy Murray was absolutely useless at tennis right enough!🙄😂

PomplaMouse · 17/06/2026 20:03

I'm Welsh - I never actively support England in a tournament, and sometimes I'll enjoy it if they're beaten by a massive underdog, but I do find myself somewhat rooting for them quite often (e.g., in the last Euros).

The only real chip on my shoulder is with regards to the "British" sports media, who didn't give Wales a fraction on the coverage when they made the semis of the Euros in 2016 as they do for England in every tournament.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 17/06/2026 20:13

Alba1981 · 17/06/2026 20:03

Andy Murray was absolutely useless at tennis right enough!🙄😂

Sir Chris Hoy , Kenny Dalglish to name a few others.

GrievanceList · 17/06/2026 20:16

countrylife00 · 17/06/2026 18:28

Well having lived in Scotland, I totally understand why they are so jealous of the English lol.

Hmm wonder why nobody warmed to you. Maybe wasn't anything to do with your nationality, but something else. And why jealous? Of what? What does England have that other parts of the UK don't.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 17/06/2026 20:20

England will naturally have more well‑known figures simply because its population is around ten times larger than Scotland.

But our wee country doesn’t need to tear others down to feel good about itself — we stand on our own merits.

Scotland doesn’t need to drag anyone else down to feel good about who we are.

Livelovebehappy · 17/06/2026 20:23

Alba1981 · 17/06/2026 20:03

Andy Murray was absolutely useless at tennis right enough!🙄😂

Or as they say, British when he wins, Scottish when he loses. And has to be said he doesnt win anything these days..

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 17/06/2026 20:25

Well he’s 39, and busy running a very posh hotel

celticnations · 17/06/2026 20:25

Curious why England has adopted Sweet Caroline as "their" song when the Northern Irish have been using it as "their" song since 1969!

But a grand wee tune altogether.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 17/06/2026 20:26

Livelovebehappy · 17/06/2026 20:23

Or as they say, British when he wins, Scottish when he loses. And has to be said he doesnt win anything these days..

He retired in 2024 🤔

countrylife00 · 17/06/2026 20:26

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 17/06/2026 20:20

England will naturally have more well‑known figures simply because its population is around ten times larger than Scotland.

But our wee country doesn’t need to tear others down to feel good about itself — we stand on our own merits.

Scotland doesn’t need to drag anyone else down to feel good about who we are.

And all the famous Scots choose to live in England. Even flipping Nicola has decided which is the better place to live…

Harry12345 · 17/06/2026 20:27

countrylife00 · 17/06/2026 18:28

Well having lived in Scotland, I totally understand why they are so jealous of the English lol.

Why do so many move here then?

Namingbaba · 17/06/2026 20:29

Catsandcheese · 16/06/2026 22:47

I think the tartan army are pretty amazing. They raise money for charities local to where they visit - £10k to one children’s charity in Boston and others.
Scotland will be very unlikely to move from the group stage but their support knows that and is still happy to follow. the social media from Boston is amazing. Everyone is having a great time it seems.

Why very unlikely? They have three points and another point from the remaining games would do it. It’s possible. Even with three they might do it depending on how others do.

countrylife00 · 17/06/2026 20:31

Harry12345 · 17/06/2026 20:27

Why do so many move here then?

We went to make money in the oil business and then moved on. Sad to see Aberdeen is so run down now.

Swipe left for the next trending thread