AIBU to be English, but really really want Scotland to win the world cup.

[fruitandbarley]

After decades of disappointment I've pretty much given up on watching England with any hope.

I have Scottish in laws and love the place anyway but after seeing all the videos of the tartan army in Boston I'd so love for them to win ( however unlikely that may be!)

Scotland isn’t defined by Rangers and Celtic, and pretending otherwise is just ignorance.

Every country has louts around derby matches — that’s not a Scottish problem, it’s a football problem. Living in England, I see firsthand how some people here show a level of bitterness toward Scotland that’s honestly embarrassing.

The Tartan Army is known worldwide for their good behaviour and the charity work they do while supporting their team. Yet there’s always someone — usually English — desperate to criticise them. It’s unfair, it’s outdated, and it says more about the critic than it does about Scotland.

Is 1977 the new 1966?

YANBU OP! DH is English but has lived in Scotland for many years and is definitely rooting for us. It’s so nice walking around and seeing all the flags, the kids are chatting about it all the time, it’s just a nice thing for the country. No one expects us to get very far but just being there is a great time! It’s hard not to get swept up in it all really.

And even then it's a minority of Celtic and Rangers fans who cause issues. True, both clubs have violent and sectarian groups associated with them but I know plenty of people who go regularly who are passionate about the football but are absolutely not drunken thugs. It's patently ridiculous to judge an entire country's fans on the basis of the actions of a small proportion of people associated with 2 clubs. That's like judging all England fans by the standards of say Millwall or Leeds supporters in the 80s. And let's not kid ourselves that football hooliganism is unique to these shores either.

Nothing wrong with wanting a particular country to win the tournament who is not your home country. You can admire particular players, the manager, or any other reason.

Scotland or England won't win, don't get your hopes up.

I work with loads of nhs, social workers and admin and many of them are English, no one cares or treats them any differently, what you’ve said seems bizarre to me, are you sure it was because you are English? There’s literally people working here from all over the world

Hurling, golf, athletics tennis?

Of course not, all live in Britain.

We’ve these things I think it’s fine to want another team to win but it would be unreasonable to want England to lose. If you want Scotland to win their matches and do well because you have a connection to the country/ people that’s nice. I have a friend with a Scottish parent - they have lived in England all their lives but still love Scotland. It irks me that they are desperate for England to lose everything (every match, every sport etc) 😂

Well yes but I don’t think the majority of Scottish people feel British. I certainly never think of myself as anything other than Scottish.

Of course that’s not unreasonable. I’m English and I’d love Scotland to do well; as long as they lose if we play them!

And it’s all academic because neither Scotland or England are going to win the World Cup.

I’m Irish (so no skin in the game) but I’m supporting Scotland, mainly cos I love the country and Robertson is their captain and Liverpool is my team. My English dh is a bit disappointed I’m not supporting England.

YABU … they don’t stand a chance and they hate England with a passion! Why would you want someone to win when they want nothing more than your country to lose.

Hell will freeze over before that happens!

About 5 Scottish people have said it already

They don’t hate England they hate the English media and it’s in jest, English and Scottish get on, it’s an age old sports rivalry that’s a bit of fun

My 6 year old daughter keeps asking if Scotland might win The World Cup. I don’t know how many times I can explain the zero probability of it actually happening. I’ve got more chance of being wealthier than Musk this time next year.

But that’s part of the appeal, the underdog and the dream of it happening… the biggest party since the year 2000!

Now England on the other hand have an outside chance. Keep it low expectations and let the lads get on. Would also be a phenomenal thing to see so best of luck to them.

Don’t worry. We wouldn’t support Ireland, so no problems there….

Well having lived in Scotland, I totally understand why they are so jealous of the English lol.

This was in the late 80s and 90s.
i moved up from London and could not believe it. I had worked with people from everywhere, but in Aberdeen it was a different world.

I will crack the jokes! 😂😂😂😂

That’s very rude on a thread with a lot of Scottish people.

@fruitandbarley yes that would be nice, but highly unlikely, but we can dream.

@countrylife00 maybe bacause we would never hear the end of it. 1966 was 60 years ago and ee still hesr about is as if England was the best in the world.

Not for a lot of them it isn’t!

Unlikely they are football fans.