AIBU to be English, but really really want Scotland to win the world cup.

[fruitandbarley]

After decades of disappointment I've pretty much given up on watching England with any hope.

I have Scottish in laws and love the place anyway but after seeing all the videos of the tartan army in Boston I'd so love for them to win ( however unlikely that may be!)

Hope they get knocked out ASAP

You been on chat gpt? 🤣

Nope, it's just a common theme when discussing England's International history, so much so it's fairly simple to recount.

Who?

The Scottish and English male fans generally like a lot of alcohol so are likely similar when pissed. I can’t see why English men would be inherently more violent than Scottish men

You might want to go look at the history of travelling English supporters then.

Remember, English clubs were banned entirely from Continental competition for a period for no other reason than travelling fans could not behave themselves. The culmination of this which prompted UEFA to finally act was the disgrace in the Heysel Stadium in which English hooligans precipitated a stampede which resulted in the deaths of 39 mostly Italian fans.

This coincided with a period whereby any International Tournament England qualified for invariably saw England fans embroiled in pitched battles wherever they went, sometimes with opposing fans, but more often with the local constabulary and any locals who just happened to be passing by. This was a frequent and routine occurrence right up in to the 2000s and 2010s, and it hasn't entirely gone away considering English fans gatecrashed their own national stadium in 2021 and some of the footage coming back from the USA recently.

This all occurred during a period when the Scotland National side was also qualifying for International Tournaments regularly, and Scottish club sides were playing in Continental competition, and doing rather well for themselves to boot.

Why the marked discrepancy between English and Scottish fan behaviour when all other circumstances are much the same?

Clearly not as english fans are still chanting the German bombers song......

It’s football banter- definitely said in jest. We have a German manager after all!

Just googled it 😱

I quite like the latest one about Trump and Epstein!

Do they sing your national anthem? Apologies, I’ve never watched an England game.

Like some English football chants though. Posted this before

”His name is Rio and he sits behind the stand” 🤣

I just found that, I hadn't come across it. You don't have to be a Trump fan (which I'm not) to find that ugly. Way to shit on the fun. Ew.

Do better England fans. You can do it!

oh dear

Oh come on! Trump deserves it! @Murica

The chants and banter is a huge part of football- god it would be a boring world if the professionally offended had their way.

But yeah I think all teams sing their national anthem.
Although the English one is a bit royalist so not everyone does for that reason I guess.

Ours is the best imo. What's your team apart from your national one?

One of the midlands teams- don’t wanna say too much in case it’s outing with all my other posts on here.

I prefer watching the national teams really though- especially the women who are a breath of fresh air and there’s definitely no trouble with any of the fans at those matches as far as I’m aware. 😊

I just love the game- think it brings people together more than it drive them apart. Love the fact that most teams now are made up from people all over the world and it’s the kind of game most kids can afford to play, pretty much anywhere- you just need a ball!

Any Scottish person would cringe about using the term “ sweetie”
You have been so charming on this thread - no wonder they loved you . I suspect they were taking the piss. But you sound lacking in emotional intelligence.

Maybe.

Cunt is a misogynist insult here only used for women. I'm not a snowflake for not liking it.

I understand you would find it cringey. That’s why I used it darling.

Agree with the bringing people together bit.

I support Glasgow Celtic and we had a player called Scott Sinclair (English), I loved him and I loved his chant. It was to the tune of "the logical song". He was getting a lot of racist stuff from other teams supporters (Rangers) due to his colour, not his nationality.

So he had been having a hard time and at one game our supporters (Green Brigade made it up) sang "Scotty Sinclair, he is so wonderful, he's beautiful, he's magical. When he runs down the wing, he's as fast as lightening, it's frightening, and he makes all the bhoys sing", next words were just "doo doo doo" to the tune. You should google it.

Then at the end of the game Scott and his fellow team members came back onto the pitch with "show racism the red card" t shirts on and clapped the supporters.

Scott Sinclair had an entirely different chant when he played at our place , good player though .

You might not like this, but it's almost like a term of endearment in Scotland now.

When I was a wee girl, it was the worst word. The lesser bad words were things like "bloody". And we had an answer to that.

"Bloody's in the bible, bloody's in the book, if you don't believe me, take a bloody look"

But now? People use it indiscriminatley.

"Aw, see that wee guy, he's a good c*nt really".

"We were away for the weekend and had a c*nt of a time"

"Met a guy in the pub at the weekend and he was the funniest c*nt I've ever met".

I remember walking back from work one day around 2014, and this woman came out of a shop and roared "aww jeanie ya lovely c*nt, how are you doing".

I laughed all the way home as I couldn't believe the brass neck of her but loved the fact she didn't give a flying one.

I rarely use the word, though I have on here, once, still ashamed of it.

I don't like it either tbh and you are not a snowflake, but language evolves.

Has anyone ever used the word "boring" to describe you?

I’d agree ( also Scottish)

People also use utter cunt for pisstakers as in that complete and utter cunt

Kevin Bridges does a funny bit on how “that cunt” is a gender neutral term in Glasgow.

I see you have been on this post all day.
That is beyond boring. But each to their own.
i feel sorry for you if MN is your life.

Plenty of english players, normally younger ones, have played abroad in recent years.

It was a problem in the past. Primary due to the high PL wages.