Is England’s World Cup entitlement unique, or common in other countries?

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Do other countries have the same sense of entitlement to winning the World Cup as we do? All this 30, now 60, years of hurt thing, all the comments about how useless England are, that's gone on for as long as I can remember, how rubbish the managers are etc.

I've never researched it but we can't be the only country to have only won one, or zero World Cups.

Is it unique to England? Or our supporters, I doubt the team has the same sense of entitlement.

We don't need other nations to support us. We just aren't interested in people who have to shout from the rooftops anyone but England.

Sounds like Max Verstappen. Always everyone else’s fault apart from his, when he doesn’t win a race.

Or it’s the ball not bouncing right… it’s too hot… or too cold …

Simply because I dont find something funny doesnt mean I am not able to see irony or find humour in things

I just do not agree this is humorous.

Unless you are suggeting the song and the phrase actually meanals they dont want to win again ever there is no irony what so ever - as it is not stating the opposite of what is meant for humerous effect.

Not finding something funny also dosesnt mean people are taking it "to seriously " it means they have a different view to you.

Thats ok in life but many do not get that..

I think people sometimes overestimate the strength of our national team because of the quality and wealth of the Premier League, but our Prem is far more international than equivalent countries (Bundesliga is 50% German, for example, whereas the Prem is only about 30% English).

@Enko but the home bit refers to the fact England were playing at home when the song first came out.

Do other countries have the same sense of entitlement to winning the World Cup as we do?
It's not so much entitlement as the weird idea that the World Cup should be awarded on Buggin's Turn.
"Please, Sir. It's been 60 years, isn't it time we won?"

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I really don’t agree with this “English arrogance” sentiment that seems to pop up when compared to other European countries. And I’m not just talking about football.

I have a Dutch colleague who is the most arrogant individual I have ever met, to the point where the office is a genuinely unpleasant place to be. They can’t take any feedback or criticism, considers any approach different to how their own to be wrong, constantly belittles or criticises anything and everything to do with the UK whilst waxing lyrical about the wonderful Netherlands.

But it’s the English who are arrogant because they sing a novelty song about wanting to win the World Cup.

No, it's because England wrote the rules of the game. We invented it but aren't very good at it.

I was just thinking “Three Lions surely can’t be 30 years old” Thank god “Vindaloo” has died a death.

The “football’s coming home” part was the whole tournament (Euro 96 was held in England) not specifically the trophy. Obviously doesn’t make a lot of sense for the World Cup.

Yes, but the “coming home” part in 1996 when the song was written was about the tournament (Euros) “coming home” to the country that invented football. It didn’t mean that the trophy belongs in England. And definitely didn’t mean we are the rightful winners of the World Cup! It wasn’t even a World Cup year…

Anyway, the rightful anthem of the World Cup will always be Shakira (any Shakira song)

Thank you, the entire thread was not meant to be about the song, the song is only part of it.

It was a mash-up of two different competitions (Euros and World Cup) that probably only makes sense to football fans.

Speaking of Shakira, she looks amazing; she’s done about 6 world cups and still looks about 30!

Well I bet none of you on this thread will remember that immortal
Scotland World Cup song We're On the March with Ally's Army. I now have that earworm in my head and am rather disturbed to find that I actually remember the words.

I did thing think the song was Three Lines on a Shirt when it first came out. My excuse for that is being Scottish.🤣

I’m not sure it’s even legal to host the World Cup without a Shakira song 🤣

it's funny because in one breath we say it's coming home and in the next we're all going on about how rubbish they are! if their fans don't believe in them what chance have they got 😅

Northern Ireland had a song with Dana, "Yer Man" - When Yer Man gets the ball .......

I remember that Scottish song 😃

Unfortunately for everybody else, Glenn Hoddle & Chris Waddle set the bar for top-class football-related songs so unreachably high, there's no point in anybody else even trying anymore.

I enjoyed that. Very upbeat and fun

Is there a joke in there 😆

Just poured a bicardi and ice with coke 😋

I thought u meant when Waddles penalty went over the bar in Italia 90 @AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle 😆

Was that when he got sent off or something, for petulantly kicking someone from the other team?

I still remember the Sun (IIRC) the next day - front page said, ‘Sorry lads, no tits on page 3 today - only….’
(and on page 3) - Beckham!’

There are times when I do love our tabloids….