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Is England’s World Cup entitlement unique, or common in other countries?

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WhenTheDustSettles · 11/06/2026 08:10

Do other countries have the same sense of entitlement to winning the World Cup as we do? All this 30, now 60, years of hurt thing, all the comments about how useless England are, that's gone on for as long as I can remember, how rubbish the managers are etc.

I've never researched it but we can't be the only country to have only won one, or zero World Cups.

Is it unique to England? Or our supporters, I doubt the team has the same sense of entitlement.

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AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 14/06/2026 10:06

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 09:47

Have you never sung and old song?

I personally judge harshly any person who listens to or sings along with ABBA's absolute timeless banger 'Happy New Year' - as anybody in 2026 who intones the ponderance about what life might be like in 1989 is 100% a moral disgrace of the worst kind Grin

MasterBeth · 14/06/2026 10:09

What do you mean We'll Meet Again? The war's over, Vera.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 14/06/2026 10:17

HelpMeGetThrough · 11/06/2026 15:46

I’ll nip out with me paint pot and do a couple of roundabouts.

Maybe that's why Wales doesn't usually qualify for the World Cup - because the flag is far too complicated for supporters to paint on roundabouts?!

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 14/06/2026 10:22

LumenLights · 11/06/2026 18:06

I really don’t agree with this “English arrogance” sentiment that seems to pop up when compared to other European countries. And I’m not just talking about football.

I have a Dutch colleague who is the most arrogant individual I have ever met, to the point where the office is a genuinely unpleasant place to be. They can’t take any feedback or criticism, considers any approach different to how their own to be wrong, constantly belittles or criticises anything and everything to do with the UK whilst waxing lyrical about the wonderful Netherlands.

But it’s the English who are arrogant because they sing a novelty song about wanting to win the World Cup.

Are you all based in the UK? If your colleague is constantly moaning about the UK, then I'm guessing so?

There's nothing more pathetic than somebody who chooses to move to another country and then spends all of their time banging on about how rubbish it is. What does that say about them, then: that they deliberately opt for what they 'know' to be a terrible decision?! "That's obviously shit... so that's the one for me!!!"

LuckyHazelFox · 14/06/2026 10:24

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 14/06/2026 10:17

Maybe that's why Wales doesn't usually qualify for the World Cup - because the flag is far too complicated for supporters to paint on roundabouts?!

😆 🤣 😂

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 14/06/2026 10:37

My STBX French brother in law is of the option that France were robbed, at every WC they didn’t win. Bizarrely DSis gave him an England 1966 replica shirt for his 50th , which have contributed to the STBX nature of their relationship.

Ginmonkeyagain · 14/06/2026 10:45

Ha ha, it's not just us. I was in France the year they won the world cup (2018) and have been there during many european and world cup rounds. It is wall to wall coverage on TV with every single thing poured over by endless panel of experts. France games cause whole cities to come to a halt as everyone gathers outside bars and restaurants to watch the game.

The year France got to the final the town we were in did not stop all night - there were youths driving around all night, all piled in to open car bonnets cheering and sounding their horns.

CovenOfCheeses · 16/07/2026 10:32

WhenTheDustSettles · 11/06/2026 08:10

Do other countries have the same sense of entitlement to winning the World Cup as we do? All this 30, now 60, years of hurt thing, all the comments about how useless England are, that's gone on for as long as I can remember, how rubbish the managers are etc.

I've never researched it but we can't be the only country to have only won one, or zero World Cups.

Is it unique to England? Or our supporters, I doubt the team has the same sense of entitlement.

The sense of entitlement of Switzerland is nauseating. They felt they had a manifest destiny to win a sporting event based on their historical sense of superiority.

They invented the cockoo clock and holey cheese and they believe they are god’s gift to football. They have an inherent sense of superiority and their sense of Swiss exceptionalism make them think they have a manifest destiny to conquer the World Cup. Their flag is even an inverted St George Cross. I am so sick of this false sense of nationalism based on some artefacts of history. They are a third rate nation on the decline and they have not accepted this fact. They have some politicians that pander to their inherent racism and patriotism by looking back to a false nostalgic past of Heidi and Peter the goatherder days which appeals to their anti-EU sentiment but at the end of the day they are a tiny nation that is diminished in world affairs and has very little stake in the history of the world moving forward apart from as part of a bigger entity.

The Swiss have not realised it and their politicians do not have the heart or courage to move rheir people beyond their sense of delusion. They feel that 11 grown men kicking a pig’s bladder around will make up for their decline but at the end of the day, the industrial decline, weak leadership, poor productivity, antagonistic labour relations, a defeated workforce and lack of direction has put paid to any international ambitions The Swiss of the Toblerone and Rolex watch days are a figment of the distant past and they people have not accepted this nor have their leaders.

Sartre · 16/07/2026 10:38

My dad is French and he went absolutely ballistic when they won the 98 cup, it’s etched in my memory. To be fair, they didn’t have to wait as long as England to win it again. Understandably gutting to drop out the other night in the shocking way they did, they played abysmally.

Anyway, yes other countries take it seriously.

SALaw · 16/07/2026 14:15

Enko · 11/06/2026 08:31

I grew up in Scandinavia and no that entitlement. - And I actually think thats a good word for it - is not there. There is hope and wishes and wanting the team to do great but not the "home" I find sportsmanship often lacks in the UK to me thats shown by the reputation British football fans carry abroad.

Ive always disliked the song as the idea a trophy being able to have a "home" annoys me. I recall a song done in my birth country when I was a child for a world cup where the lyric went something like "we will win and get the trophy with us home" aka they would go home with the trophy not the trophy coming home. (they didnt win but were still greeted as heros on return)

However I also fully expect to be told Im wrong and I just dont get Britishness or humour. As heavens forbid someone has a different view to the.majority. I do understand its a song. That doesn't mean I have to like it or that I think everyone thinks thst. It just means that I think its inappropriate and my view is that there is entitlement.

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It’s a song that couldn’t be less about entitlement. It basically says they always lose and probably will again. The “coming home” was about the fact Euro 96 was being held in England, not about the trophy being brought back to England as winners.

JHound · 16/07/2026 14:17

We don’t have a world cup entitlement here. So I cannot answer the question.

Waitingfordoggo · 16/07/2026 14:44

Enko · 11/06/2026 20:16

When the song came out. What's the excuse now.

No one needs an excuse or a justification to sing or listen to a song, you silly sausage 😂

HateLongCovid · 16/07/2026 15:06

sittingonabeach · 11/06/2026 09:05

Doesn’t the home bit also refer to the fact that England were playing at home too (just like when they won the World Cup)

Yes this is exactly what the song was referring to.

HateLongCovid · 16/07/2026 15:13

SALaw · 16/07/2026 14:15

It’s a song that couldn’t be less about entitlement. It basically says they always lose and probably will again. The “coming home” was about the fact Euro 96 was being held in England, not about the trophy being brought back to England as winners.

This with bells 🔔 on. Can’t believe so many people do not understand what the song is about 🙄,so make up a completely false narrative and run with it.

hourglass2 · 16/07/2026 15:19

HateLongCovid · 16/07/2026 15:13

This with bells 🔔 on. Can’t believe so many people do not understand what the song is about 🙄,so make up a completely false narrative and run with it.

I know it really fucks me off too, people are too bone idle to read the lyrics, the words are very self depricating...

Ablondiebutagoody · 16/07/2026 15:33

WhenTheDustSettles · 11/06/2026 08:34

I'm trying to understand, not belittle anyone. Most of this doesn't come from the team themselves does it? Look at the abuse they got when those penalties were missed in the Euros. As a kid I remember getting upset with a sort of Guy Fawkes thing made of David Beckham and hung from a noose being shown in the papers. And that was without social media.

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I see your distress at a beckham mannequin and raise you the Colombian goalkeeper being shot dead for scoring an own goal.

England are mild in comparison to other countries.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 16/07/2026 15:40

Ablondiebutagoody · 16/07/2026 15:33

I see your distress at a beckham mannequin and raise you the Colombian goalkeeper being shot dead for scoring an own goal.

England are mild in comparison to other countries.

Andres Escobar was a defender, not a goalkeeper. He wasn't shot dead because of the result, or the fact that the O.G. cost his nation the game, he was killed because a gambling ring had staked huge sums of money against that specific event happening.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/07/2026 15:41

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 14/06/2026 10:17

Maybe that's why Wales doesn't usually qualify for the World Cup - because the flag is far too complicated for supporters to paint on roundabouts?!

That’ll be it!

ENGLANDalltheway · 16/07/2026 17:31

Watching other supporters it is common for teams to think they will win, not just England. You don't go along assuming you win lose.

ENGLANDalltheway · 16/07/2026 17:32

hourglass2 · 16/07/2026 15:19

I know it really fucks me off too, people are too bone idle to read the lyrics, the words are very self depricating...

This.

ComeOnEngland12 · 16/07/2026 17:52

HRTQueen · 11/06/2026 08:27

I’ve been in France and Italy when they have been playing in the World Cup and the streets are empty and the celebrations after when they won was far more exuberant than they are here

but they also don’t appear to sneer at the passion some people have for football I think much of this is down to our good old snobbery as football really is a working class game here

Omg ! Yes the drums and processions in streets I was in London when a middle Eastern team won a game and that was manic also .

ComeOnEngland12 · 16/07/2026 17:53

ENGLANDalltheway · 16/07/2026 17:31

Watching other supporters it is common for teams to think they will win, not just England. You don't go along assuming you win lose.

Amazing one has to explain this 😂

GasPanic · 16/07/2026 17:58

I mean look at the fans in the Azteca when Mexico played England.

Do you really think England "have a unique sense of entitlement?"

There were fans outside the England hotel trying to keep them awake at night and tire them out for the game (allegedly).

No team or fan turns up wanting to lose and they hope that they will win, no matter how slender the chance.

ComeOnEngland12 · 16/07/2026 18:06

NotAnotherScarf · 11/06/2026 22:43

Brazil fell apart as a nation after losing 7-1 in their home world Cup.

Colombias goal keeper was shot because of an error

There was a war between i ink Ecuador and Peru because of a world Cup game.

Italy are devastated because they haven't made it (again)

So no other countries are as bad

By the way Messi was hated in Argentina till they won it

Why is Messi hated in Argentina ? Because he plays for Spain ?

MrsShawnHatosy · 16/07/2026 18:38

ComeOnEngland12 · 16/07/2026 18:06

Why is Messi hated in Argentina ? Because he plays for Spain ?

He plays IN Spain. He doesn't play for them.

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