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To be disappointed with how soft play handled this man

219 replies

Playcomment · Today 15:59

I reported an inappropriate sexual comment made by another parent at a soft play area yesterday.

I was climbing down from one of the raised areas with my DS and didn’t realise he was climbing up. I said a polite sorry and he replied not to worry and that if he knew his £10 entry included him getting an arse in his face he would have visited months ago. I challenged him and then reported to staff.

The staff approached me 10/15 minutes later to say they’d spoken to him and he had admitted saying that but was ‘obviously joking’ and he relayed his apologies, so they considered the matter sorted.

Personally, I think he should have been asked to leave. He made me feel extremely uncomfortable and could have gone on to say similar to other parents present.

OP posts:
ginasevern · Today 16:57

Erin1975 · Today 16:44

This is a generational thing isn't it. What would have been an acceptable joke 20 years ago is now unacceptable and offensive.

I'm 69 and have spent decades listening to this sort of shit from men. I find it offensive but maybe the younger women on this thread aren't as jaded as me. So yeah, it's probably a generational thing.

2msoundsright · Today 16:58

Playcomment · Today 16:48

It seems you are in the minority…I’ll have to accept that making a facesitting comment in front of kids is perfectly normal next time I go 🙄

A lot of us aren't saying that it was perfectly normal. He misjudged a joke and apologised. The unreasonable thing is you expecting him to be kicked out in case he goes on to say similar to other parents present, as if he's some sort of deviant deliberately making risque jokes for kicks.

Restlessdreams1994 · Today 16:58

You probably made HIM uncomfortable climbing down on top of him without looking where you were going. He made a stupid joke in an awkward situation and you went running to the staff in the hope that he and his kids would be made to leave because of it? Yes, YABU.

mrsbowes · Today 16:59

Honestly I think it's just the kind of thing someone might say to make light of the situation without intending to sexually harass anyone.
You could have told him yourself if you found it offensive and the staff did warn him so sounds like it was handled fine.

SooPanda · Today 16:59

Sorry I hate lewd jokes and obvious sexism but I really don’t see this as that.

He made a silly joke about your “arse” to make light of an awkward situation. You did literally have your arse in his face so it’s not like it came out of nowhere or he was making something up to be lewd. If he’d said anything about your sexual parts (fanny in my face rather than arse for instance) or insinuated a sexual move (sitting on my face) it would have been different.

If you were offended then he should be made to apologise to you, fair, but he shouldn’t be made to leave.

UniquePinkSwan · Today 17:01

HelenHywater · Today 16:30

OP it's not funny or appropriate. I'm with you.

All the cool girls on this thread are unbelievable.

The OP shoved her arse in his face and he is inappropriate? He made a joke. OP is overreacting

OrdinaryGirl · Today 17:03

HelenHywater · Today 16:30

OP it's not funny or appropriate. I'm with you.

All the cool girls on this thread are unbelievable.

I am most assuredly not a cool girl, or even a Cool Girl™️ in the way you’re using the phrase, and I think his comment was funny.

I’m super-alert to inappropriate behaviour and this wouldn’t have bothered me in the slightest from a fellow parent. If anything it would have made me feel LESS embarrassed about the situation, by adding humour. Obviously it would have been entirely inappropriate coming from a member of staff.

Those who wouldn’t have been offended by the comment aren’t necessarily all awful feminism-destroyers and rape-culture-abetters. Just as those who would have been offended by it are not all humourless man-hating harpies. It’s ok for us to disagree well. 😊

Jackiepumpkinhead · Today 17:03

You stuck your bum in his face, maybe he should have complained about you. He tried to make light of an awkward situation.

50sandFabulous · Today 17:04

Unclench!

jeomeollibyeoldul · Today 17:04

seriously? gross. no wonder we will never get anywhere with sexual harassment and men being inappropriate to random women because of the likes of people in this thread. at least you told him off op and he got a telling off from staff, i suppose that's the most you can expect, any more and women would have to be considered human beings worthy of respect in public places and we can't have that.

Keepoffmyartichokes · Today 17:04

And this is why kids can't cope with life, someone says something to Mum she doesn't agree with and she goes running to tell on him! It was a joke, you need to lighten up. And before anyone says it, I'm not a "cool mum" I'm just not always looking for offence

Hamela · Today 17:09

Very surprised at these comments, so many being ok with this.

A woman enjoying time with her child in a very very child-centric place should not ever have to endure Random Mediocre Man implying, completely out of the blue, that he would rather be paying money to buy "consent" to have her literal arsehole on his face.

Fucking pig, why can't he just focus solely on the time meant to be spent playing with his children? Porn sick loser.

They police our bodies and actions, they think they can comment on even the most thoroughly disinterested women's bodies in even the most unsexual venues. It's not funny or flattering, when so many of them objectify and ( eitherinsidiously or outright) hate us and enjoy our discomfort.

Pinkchickenwine · Today 17:09

Playcomment · Today 16:48

It seems you are in the minority…I’ll have to accept that making a facesitting comment in front of kids is perfectly normal next time I go 🙄

How old were the kids?

nogainjustpain · Today 17:09

It’s not funny. It’s sexualising a woman which is wrong anyway, in a very inappropriate setting (around kids) which to me is even more wrong, and just weird, not at all funny. A normal response would be ‘sorry/no worries/take your time/oops//i’ll move’. Why does it have to be a sex related joke to ‘break the tension’ or whatever pp are saying? Do we think a woman would have cracked this joke to another mum there? Why do we excuse these guys with haha it’s ‘banter’? Not so long ago an arse slap or boob grope was dismissed as ‘banter’ or ‘lads will be lads’ but that didn’t make it ok for the woman on the receiving end. If I had a partner who had come home laughing about the situation and reported what he’d said to another woman, I’d be disgusted. If my daughter had it said to her, I’d be disgusted. For those saying just to laugh about it, facesitting is a whole thing and can be a fetish, the joke implied him getting a free sexual service included with the entry to SOFT PLAY of all places fgs. I’m with you OP, inappropriate, pervy, and I’d have wanted him kicked out as well.

Pinkchickenwine · Today 17:10

Hamela · Today 17:09

Very surprised at these comments, so many being ok with this.

A woman enjoying time with her child in a very very child-centric place should not ever have to endure Random Mediocre Man implying, completely out of the blue, that he would rather be paying money to buy "consent" to have her literal arsehole on his face.

Fucking pig, why can't he just focus solely on the time meant to be spent playing with his children? Porn sick loser.

They police our bodies and actions, they think they can comment on even the most thoroughly disinterested women's bodies in even the most unsexual venues. It's not funny or flattering, when so many of them objectify and ( eitherinsidiously or outright) hate us and enjoy our discomfort.

Way over the top! It was a joke, she should’ve earn more careful where she stuck her arse!

SpudGunToo · Today 17:10

ginasevern · Today 16:40

Of course the poor man was only joking, they always are! We should all lighten up (just like we used to in the 1950's) and accept it for the totally innocent, non demeaning and hilarious male banter that it is. Nothing wrong with that is there.

How was it demeaning?

SpottyPyjama · Today 17:11

nogainjustpain · Today 17:09

It’s not funny. It’s sexualising a woman which is wrong anyway, in a very inappropriate setting (around kids) which to me is even more wrong, and just weird, not at all funny. A normal response would be ‘sorry/no worries/take your time/oops//i’ll move’. Why does it have to be a sex related joke to ‘break the tension’ or whatever pp are saying? Do we think a woman would have cracked this joke to another mum there? Why do we excuse these guys with haha it’s ‘banter’? Not so long ago an arse slap or boob grope was dismissed as ‘banter’ or ‘lads will be lads’ but that didn’t make it ok for the woman on the receiving end. If I had a partner who had come home laughing about the situation and reported what he’d said to another woman, I’d be disgusted. If my daughter had it said to her, I’d be disgusted. For those saying just to laugh about it, facesitting is a whole thing and can be a fetish, the joke implied him getting a free sexual service included with the entry to SOFT PLAY of all places fgs. I’m with you OP, inappropriate, pervy, and I’d have wanted him kicked out as well.

Would it have been better if he’d made a complaint about her inappropriate face sitting that occurred because she didn’t look where she was going?

Happytaytos · Today 17:12

Playcomment · Today 16:48

It seems you are in the minority…I’ll have to accept that making a facesitting comment in front of kids is perfectly normal next time I go 🙄

Face sitting...... You're the one adding that layer in your own head.

Pinkchickenwine · Today 17:12

HelenHywater · Today 16:30

OP it's not funny or appropriate. I'm with you.

All the cool girls on this thread are unbelievable.

All 92% of them are “cool girls” …. Ok then 🤔

Stepsisterfromhell · Today 17:12

So many prudes on MN. Yes, it was funny and was probably an attempt to relieve the tedious boredom that softplay centres represent for most parents! I would have probably said, well I need to get my money's worth so its your turn to climb down onto me next time!

BunnyMcDougall · Today 17:12

SnappyQuoter · Today 16:03

You’ll get a pile on saying this was a joke and to get over it, but I’d agree he should have been told to leave. We need to come down hard on all these comments by men every single time.
When my kids were toddlers, I was in a cafe and knelt down to tie it oldest son’s shoelace when a man at the next table open his legs a bit and said, “while you’re down there love” with a guffaw. I had a very loud reply, and they were asked to leave but only because I made a fuss and that cafe replied on mums with toddlers to earn it’s money.
It’s just men treating women as objects. It should be dealt with every time.

This.

“It’s just a joke” is so 1972.

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 17:12

It's quite funny

youalright · Today 17:13

These are the sort of comments that I make in an awkward situation and I'm female.

Erin1975 · Today 17:13

Tiptow · Today 16:54

I must admit that I’m very curious as to what the humour is for the generations that are so po faced. What do they actually laugh at, is it just memes of cats?

I'm more interested in how the current generation flirt. Is everything considered offensive?

WildLeader · Today 17:13

Christ almighty! What a time to be alive!

@Playcomment I hope you never join my gym, we have a great laugh, we’re all ages and genders and nobody is ever this uptight