Did you know about this other attempted beheading?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7pg7nk53go

First I ever heard of it was yesterday.

People act like it’s only non white people that do this.

Yet we are not allowed to declare that Islam has caused any of the multiple attacks. There's hundreds stopped, one fairly recent, by a Father coming out from visiting his Wife and Newborn seeing a man suspiciously hanging around the maternity wing. We aren't allowed to say that a common theme is women and children being targeted. Part of the issue is the blame always follows one path, but apparently there's lots of factors at play, when it's from a man from certain communities.

Autism is not a MH on its own, but around a third of those who have it also have learning disabilities. Those who have Autism are also much more likely to have severe associated mental health conditions.

A proportion of my caseload as a disability outreach worker was supporting families who were dealing with autistic adult children, many of whom were violent as a result of these conditions. Help for these families is patchy and in some areas non-existent so, as seems to have been the case with this girls’ father, they are left to struggle. So you can’t really state that prison is the right place for offenders who have these conditions without examining all the factors.

The state of MH services in the UK means that too often those with MH conditions don’t get appropriate intervention before they offend and they end up in prison instead of appropriately hospitalised.

They are thugs and many of them are far right as we have seen.

There are concerns, ofcourse there are but these riots are not that.

Teenage girls really won’t be high up on crime stats.

Going looking for random knife crimes is bizarre but then so is this whole OP.

And so it continues. So given that the unrest was sparked by a vicious attack on an innocent person by a failed asylum seeker and is by no means the first of it’s kind, what do you think was behind it ?

It wasn’t a knife. It was an axe. But, yes, white teenage girl - nothing to see here.

True. A horrific crime occurs so a young, slight teenage girl with MH issues must be found.

I saw this and was shocked when I heard it was a white person.

When I heard about the Belfast attempted beheading I was not remotely shocked to hear it was not a white person.

I didn't go looking! I already knew about these two incidents (among others) because I don't limit my attention to stories implicating brown-skinned immigrants.

Have a think about what that means.

Wow. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such naked, self confessed prejudice.

Come on, I was trying to highlight the bias in extracting a 'pattern' from selected news stories.

No need for the question from whose perspective? Yours?

Im quite interested to know. I work with asylum seekers and obviously we see a lot of different types of entry.

White people are not generally known for attempting to behead people in public ?

I have no idea what was behind it and I won't speculate.

The victims family were very graceful in their statement, they seem deeply principled and decent people

The rioters, egged on by YSL in Russia and Musk, are anything but.

I'm talking about the Manchester school stabbings by a 14 year old girl. However, looking for cases to say oh look its not just asylum seekers who stab people is really strange. It was one white girl with an axe. Is there a pattern of white girls using sharp objects, such as screwdrivers on innocent people?

Why do you infantilize these people?

Anyone who chooses to riot, chooses this course of action.

A huge number of my service users are also ND. She does have an associated MH condition, the anorexia, this is highly common for people with ASD

My point is that Autism is not a MH condition, I replied to a poster who said it was

They were also implying that she should be in hospital rather than prison. People are not hospitals for ASD, nor even anorexia unless their anorexia is currently and acutely posing a risk to life.

It was one white girl with an axe.

How many do you need before you’ll admit your double standards and condemn all violence?

Come on back.

It’s not useful for indicating crime rates for teenage girls.

I know what it means. It means I dont hear about white people (especially females) trying to behead people in the street.

You do now.

I fucking hate the autism excuse, in all honesty.

My son is autistic and has yet to try and behead anyone, and if he ever does, his accountability for that action does not change.

Why not ? You said in your last post There are concerns, ofcourse there are but these riots are not that.. So you seemed certain in your last post that the unrest w as caused by right wing thugs and nothing more.