Did you know about this other attempted beheading?

[Whiski]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7pg7nk53go

First I ever heard of it was yesterday.

People act like it’s only non white people that do this.

Her victim was injured. You don’t get sent down for 15 years for nothing.

Burns approached Mahmoodi from behind and swung the axe at his neck. He was able to wrestle the weapon away from her before she could strike him again.

During sentencing at Bristol Crown Court earlier, Mahmoodi said a scar on his neck is a "daily reminder that I was nearly killed".

She was sentenced to 19 years, which is a ridiculous sentence for that offence. I have not followed the case closely but my sense is that she got most of that time for her ideology, rather than her actions.

Yes it was on the main news. Can’t do much about her. She’s here already, she hasn’t come in illegally. Got enough of our own criminals. Don’t need them from abroad as well.

You’re right. She was told she’d serve a minimum of 15 years. She got the sentence because she was charged with attempted murder, if she’d hit an artery it would have been life.

Ha, yes, and if my grandmother had had wheels, she would have been a bike.

She hit him from behind with an axe. It is very possible for a smaller, weaker person to really hurt and even kill someone by hitting them with an axe from behind. Men are stronger than women but necks are fragile. It was good luck that she didn't kill him or cause worse injuries. And he was badly injured. But hitting someone in the neck with an axe is attempted murder.

I agree, better interventions earlier on would have helped but autism doesn't usually remove criminal responsibility. If we start not imprisoning people who attempt murder because they were failed earlier in their lives and have autism then sooner or later people will be protesting/rioting a violent criminal avoiding jail for those reasons. That doesn't mean you can't look at the case and learn lessons to prevent it or worse crimes happening in the future.

This one did make the news and a lot was said about the trial etc. Utterly disgusting. It doesn't matter what race or religion you are the crime should have the same punishment be it black on white, white on black, one religion against another. The crime is the same the punishment should be also. Sadly the media doesn't give the same level of cover like the courts don't give the same levels of justice.

Violence is violence regardless, and horrific regardless but I really wonder if the Belfast attack has had the element of beheading to it to reinforce the stereotype and narrative being pushed at the minute. Obviously I wasnt there, so maybe the attacker WAS striking him in his throat and trying to sever his head from his body rather than stabbing him in the face and skull, but it sounds like someone in the taping said he's trying to behead him and everyone jumped on that because its want they already believe
Makes no difference to the victim obviously but I forwarder if there's some orchestration going on.....I could be completely wrong about the nature of the attack though

Agree. You are meant to think of ISIS.

It raises the "this type of violence is alien to our culture" bar as well because you don't just have to then prove extreme violence happens here as well already. But that specifically that type of violence does. And if you do bring in examples you can be accused of whataboutery or "so we don't need even more violent men then". Which is a bait and switch.

The Shankhill butchers for example carried out knife attacks just as horrific, but calling it a near beheading is supposed to make it sound like something a group like ISIS would do.
And I don't know if it was mentioned already but the same man who was unfortunately attacked had already been a victim of an incredibly savage attack when younger (tortured, drugged, doused in flammable liquid and set on fire if you want to know). The perpetrator of that attack wasn't just a white/Northern Irish man. He was a Loyalist drug dealer from Belfast. So the idea that the paramilitaries are now so shocked/upset at the level.of violence meted out to the victim is somewhat unlikely

I feel really sorry for the victim, and talking about the past crimes against him seems prurient. But it is relevant if people are going to be being up the "Alien to our culture" garbage.