Did you know about this other attempted beheading?

[Whiski]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7pg7nk53go

First I ever heard of it was yesterday.

People act like it’s only non white people that do this.

If the response to racist attack is to be rioting will you also be in full support of minority ethnic groups who are subjected to racist attacks daily also rioting in protest?
Thought not. How dare "they" riot on "our streets"

Why shouldn't they protest if they feel singled out? Anyone has the right to do that under freedom laws. We know how those protests work out - BLM and Palestine, so they are hardly neing denied the 'right' to riot. Just a shame many abuse freedom of speech on both sides.

The replies don't "say it all", because so few people are replying, despite there being quite a lot of people viewing the thread.
Many people feel that one type of violence is more organic in nature, having always existed in society, and the other has been imposed by the actions of the state.
One of the reasons that there has become such a polarity of viewpoint around this issue is that one part of society (the middle class) has been largely insulated from the negative effects of this state imposed action. i.e. you don't get many asylum hotels and HMO's in the Shires or naice places where there is a Gails or a Cook. The legal mass migration that has been allowed since COVID has also been felt more by the working classes as this wave was specifically encouraged by the state to suppress wage inflation after lockdown. Again, not something that impacted the middle classes as the majority of the migration has been lower skilled than previous waves.
Crime carried out by asylum seekers/immigrants therefore, has become (and will continue to be) a symbol of a state that is increasingly despised by a large proportion of its citizens. Whereas crimes not carried out by this group doesn't engender the same response as the link to the state is less obvious (though, in my personal opinion, is indirectly increased by state incompetence).

Maybe the media coverage might include ALL the facts instead of just the ones that'll have a certain percentage of the population frothing at the mouth.

Isn't it that people think we have enough criminals of our own, why import more?

The one in the article above was born here so we're stuck with her whether we like it or not, whereas politicians have decided to let people like the Sudanese man stay (having travelled through several safe countries).

Because this is a unique case in our entire history of an 1. English 2. teenage 3. girl - carrying out an attack like this. That demands investigation and reflection to understand what led to it - in the same way that the death of Jamie Bulger led to a national conversation.

And what do you know we discover a childhood blighted by failure from the state, with her homeless English family forced to live in hotel rooms, while migrants jump to the front of the housing queue.

Who radicalized her? Our upside-down malicious state did.

What pattern?

Alina Burns was tiny, severely anorexic and very vulnerable.

The Iranian barber she attacked took the axe off her pretty swiftly and suffered only minor injuries.

Of course it shouldn’t have happened at all, and he has suffered some emotional trauma from it, but it is just not the same as the attack in Belfast.

I can't take such a ridiculous question, seriously.

Yes. Because I watch and listen to the news. Always have the news on with subtitles in the kitchen. And I have a paper at weekends. I even have World service at night.

Its almost as if we haven't got enough home grown savages... we must therefore import more.

I doubt it's possible for a girl to behead a fully grown man with a hand axe.

Because someone filmed the entire Belfast incident and uploaded the whole thing uncut to social media so it could circulate and be watched in full by a large number of people.

Plus, she has autism and anorexia. 15 years is only 6 less than that Henry Nowaks killer got, and she didn't kill him. Seems to me an unduly harsh sentence.

Where is your evidence that 'migrants jump to the front of the housing queue'? Here's some fact checking from Reuters that says the contrary. https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/asylum-seekers-jumping-social-housing-queue-claims-are-misleading-2024-12-12/

Not harsh enough imo!

Interesting that there were no houses burnt down in response to this!

She needs to be in a mental hospital, not a prison.

Violence is violence regardless, and horrific regardless but I really wonder if the Belfast attack has had the element of beheading to it to reinforce the stereotype and narrative being pushed at the minute. Obviously I wasnt there so maybe the attacker was striking him in his throat and trying to sever his head from his body rather than stabbing him in the face and skull, but it sounds like someone in the taping said he's trying to behead him and everyone jumped on that because its want they already believe
Makes no difference to the victim obviously but I forwarder if there's some orchestration going on.....I could be completely wrong about the nature of the attack though

She’s scum, he’s scum. Anyone that tries to behead another person is scum.

In the last few decades we've seen some big changes in how people get news. The arrival of cable TV, digital channels, internet etc has made it possible to put out news stories all day long, endlessly repeated, and when a really nasty crime is reported over and over again on all media it makes more of an impact on the public than in the old days when it was on the front page of a newspaper one day and chip wrappings the next. This has left a lot of people with the impression that crime is worse than it used to be, which is not the case.

Also, people used to get their news from newspapers, the BBC, ITV and Channel 4. Whatever you think of them, they're all regulated within the UK. What's taken their place is social media, which is not properly regulated at all, not run from the UK and is incredibly sophisticated in the way it feeds articles to users based on algorithms. If you show an interest in stories about puppies or knitting or football, you get more of the same. If the thing that really gets you going is migration, you get more of that, but with no guarantee whatsoever that what people are saying about it is true. This has been exploited by people who certainly don't have the UK's interests at heart.

What is actually true is that in the last ten years in England and Wales there have been fewer violent crimes than there were. This corresponds with a period when immigration has increased, so there's a conundrum right there for those who want us all to believe that immigrants are disproportionately responsible for crimes.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingdecember2025

Data for YE December 2025 showed that:

• the number of homicides decreased by 6% (to 503 offences) compared with YE December 2024 (534 offences)
• offences involving knives or sharp instruments decreased by 10% (to 49,151 offences) compared with YE December 2024 (54,548 offences); falls were seen across most regions in England and Wales
• offences involving firearms decreased by 9% (to 4,753 offences) compared with YE December 2024 (5,241 offences); this was the lowest figure since current police recording practices began in YE March 2003
• the number of robbery of personal property offences decreased by 12% (to 58,508 offences) compared with the previous year, however, overall robbery increased by 4% (to 84,666 offences) mainly because of improvements to recording practices for robbery of business property
• following recent rises in shoplifting, there was a 1% decrease (to 509,566 offences) in YE December 2025 compared with the previous year (516,611 offences)

My sister has autism and bulimia. She hasn’t tried to behead anybody, nor have the overwhelming majority of anybody else with either of those conditions.

She didn’t kill him, but she set out to.

A man is left lying in hospital, partially blinded and has been subjected to a terrifying attack where the butcher wanted to take his life. All this mulling over whether he intended to behead him or whether any white people have done the same, is nothing but not wanting to face uncomfortable truths. Far better to be seen as anything other than racist. I'd rather be accused of that than find any way to keep minimising and apologising for these continuing barbaric acts which have a similar well documented pattern.

Do you think we shouldn't report or care about migrants attacking British on our streets? People we've allowed into our country, supported financially? Is that what this post is about?

Both incidents are horrible..innocent people suffered:(. Is the motive behind both incidents the same?