Did you know about this other attempted beheading?

[Whiski]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7pg7nk53go

First I ever heard of it was yesterday.

People act like it’s only non white people that do this.

That is most definitely not my experience in over twenty years of disability support.

Agree 100% with this!

You may be right. I don’t a strong view on prison v hospital.

I was just reading the Belfast victim is in a coma, this article doesn’t say much about physical outcome for victim.

(except for prison). I think so long as someone is mentally culpable then autism etc can't be used to escape prison for very violent crimes. That will lead to a backlash down the line. They still deserve help though.

I thought I read her dad said she was no trouble - wtte - and this behaviour came out of the blue, so this isnt a young person the family struggled with in terms of their own safety. I suspect her ASD caused her to be very quickly transfixed, obsessed and hyperfocused and she was driven to take this unusual behaviour to cause harm.

Given she started to make the odd comment about Reform, she had right wing beliefs to start with, but either read or heard about things that pushed those to the extreme right and to cause her to want to harm people.

I think in this case he wasnt overtly harmed or injured, I cant remember where I read it but he took the axe from her I think.

Very frightening though and if she had managed to swing it in the wrong way (or right way) he would be toast

And the man in the Belfast attack has already lost his eye. I dont think its a given that he will survive.

Boohoo. I'm sick to the tits of hearing about criminals' poor mental health and fucking autism.

I seriously don't care. Whatever the original cause of your MH issues and despite how you struggled for x years with undiagnosed whatever...try and kill someone and a line is crossed. Prison is the best place and society is safer for it.

He was injured.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crmpejxlm7do?app-referrer=webview

Several things can be true at once:

• Despicable far right thugs and agitators spoiling for a fight and driven by racism start fighting and setting fire to things. Far right political parties like to exploit and encourage division and racism and spread misinformation and hate. True and awful.

• Asylum seekers especially men who are here without families are men, so more of a threat than women, quite possibly traumatised, and without the family support networks that mean a UK citizen having a psychotic break, say, has slightly more chance of being stopped before behaving violently. Easy to see how statistically this could genuinely make asylum seekers more of a risk to other people even while the majority are harmless and ordinary like most of us.

• People are naturally more frightened when relative strangers to their community commit violent acts than when people who have been in the community a long time do. It's about being afraid of what you can't predict or control, it's a fear that can come not just from what you think about a person but also from what you fear they may think about you. A feeling of safety comes partly from feeling that you're living among people who see you as part of their community, not just the other way round, and that feeling can be very threatened by events like this when the perpetrator may be different in multiple ways of which race is only one. Even if ultimately the cause is a mental health breakdown, the fear produced is still going to be greater for people who are relative strangers.

Basically not everything depends on people being wound up by far right thugs, not all feelings of fear and anger about events like this depend on racism, and so the solutions can't just be about calling out racism.

Do you think this justifies the violence towards non- white people?

I didnt see what his injuries were. I also didnt see that she was also carrying darts and a scapel. And that she had been in touch with various far right groups and told some bloke to kill jews and Muslims.

Spent the day watching SS marches prior to the attack.

God knows why people are banging on about anorexia!!!

When attacks are by Islamist extremists, they are labelled as such. e.g. the Manchester Stadium bombing, the Manchester synagogue attacks.

When they are attacks by disturbed, but not radicalised individuals, they are not labelled 'terrorist' attacks, e.g. the tragic Southport attack by Axel Rudakubana.

Do you see the difference?

Violent crime is analysed for its motivation, which is why when the father of this girl noted she was coming out with violent Reform ideology we now know that she was being radicalised into committing a hate crime.

the father of this girl noted she was coming out with violent Reform ideology

What violent things did she say to the father?

I'm sorry, but it depends where 'the Welsh woman' has come from. If she has been living in the housing association 's area for some time then yes, her need is greatest. But if she has been moved in from the other side of the country then I feel it is the responsibility of that local authority to ensure she is adequately housed. Not take a chance of a home away from someone who has lived in the area all their lives.

Anyway, we digress from the original topic.

YABU OP because this was reported on the BBC on the 26th September 2025 and on the 15th May (you just have to scroll to the bottom of the BBC page you posted to see that).

YABVU to think that just because you didn't hear about something, that it must mean it wasn't reported.

He didnt say that, he said she just mentioned a few things in line with Reform. He said she wasnt violent as far as I remember reading it.

Male violence is primarily a scourge.

Does telling people to react with 'pure cold rage' sound like a call to peace and tolerance to you?

Hardly relevant to your post if the attack in the op was carried out last year.

Attempting to behead somebody is hardly leading the way in peace and tolerance either.

I read about it days ago.

I suppose what I mean is it looks like many comments are left by people who don’t seem to be thinking at all about the myriad of reasons for the decline in standard of living in the last two decades. I don’t want to believe that so many people can’t see past the idea that we would be a much happier and more successful society if we didn’t have to deal with all the problems that other people bring with them when they come here from elsewhere. Life in the UK is generally much more difficult and miserable now than in 2006, as far as I can remember. But it’s just like you said about bubbles: I guess plenty of people live that way and don’t ever have to consider the bigger picture, instead becoming more and more comfortable with the idea that life would be better for all of us if only we could keep the defined parameters of “us” nice and tight.

Where has anyone said that ?

Well, we will never know will we because she was totally deserted by state and society until she did something violent. I think that is wrong. Do we have an obligation to take care of our vulnerable members? Yes. Do we have an obligation to take care of the entire world's vulnerable members? No. And the point is that when we can't even look after our own, perhaps we should have more controls over who we admit into our country. And when we do admit people who attack our fellow citizens, we should not be demonised by politicians and the press for getting angry at government failures.

That said, the riots and arson attacks last night were totally out of order and regressive - people's cars and homes were burned and that is not cool. We need a calm and rational discussion about a real solution. IMHO that starts with state services: mental health provision, criminal justice equality and fairness, proper police training, etc.

Are you joking. A grown man sat on another (deaf) man's chest in the middle of the street, swiping at his neck and face with a big blade and gouging his eyes out. Did you not see the video? The victim is still in hospital with life-changing injuries.

A young girl ran at a grown man and swiped at him from behind. No injuries are mentioned in the article so I assume if there were any, they were minor. Her ideology is evil and wrong but probably the result of the fact that she has been denied any education because of her ill health.

The vicious, brutal man who did real damage is not British and a recent arrival, the young girl who didn't hurt anyone very much is British and has been neglected by social services, the education system, mental health services.

The riot does not make sense in any context but the anger does. Why is it so hard for some people to understand why and how context matters?