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AIBU to expect vegan guests to avoid preaching at shared meals?

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maxslice · Today 05:01

I’m a flexitarian. Meaning I have a mostly plant focused diet. But if invited to, say, a work event or a wedding or to dinner at my oldest friend’s parents house, I’ll eat a lot of salad, potatoes, and bread. Maybe even a bit of their chicken or beef roast to not cause offense or awkwardness. So, that’s my choice. I have long term dear friends who are vegans. I respect that. But I want them to contribute an appropriate dish to share with everyone if it’s that’s so important to them. That said, I think they should just eat and shut up. Do what works for them and leave other people alone. Judging and preaching at
your host and other people is bad manners. No matter how passionate you are, there’s no need for that. You don’t persuade people by bullying them. Am I wrong?

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thestudio · Today 15:50

99bottlesofkombucha · Today 13:19

I’m ok with eating meat. I’d like to pay for better meat more consistently but 3dc and cost of living. We grow some fruit and veg. We don’t eat meat every meal. I pay for a collect textile recycling service for clothes too worn to donate, and spend a lot of time I dont have trying to recycle things rather than bin them.
we get a fruit and veggie delivery that reduces plastic and landfill. We are trying, like many. While we bring up 3 active dc who eat all day long and play sports all weekend and every night. But you do you and carry on having a go at people.

I'm not having a go - I'm genuinely interested in your answer.

We do know that eating animals is murdering animals, and that it's very bad for the environment, and I'm interested in how people un-see this when there is another option.

As an aside, being 'had a go at' is such a minute inconvenience in the context of what is being had a go about. I'm always embarrassed for those who use this rhetorical device.

igelkott2026 · Today 15:51

Pansykavalier · Today 05:40

Why? It’s an easy way to describe someone who adheres to certain dietary principles but is flexible enough to avoid making hosts feel uncomfortable or fearful of getting food wrong.

Or just doesn't delve too deeply. For example, I suspect I've had soup with meat stock on occasion.

Though I did send one back one time when I ordered a vegetable soup which had ham floating around in it!

pestowithwalnuts · Today 15:57

Bringing · Today 05:49

Of course they’re preaching - they’re vegan! There’s mot much point being vegan if you can’t preach about it, surely? Tell them to bore off!

You've hit the nail on the head Bringing.
It's part of being vegan isn't it..thou must preach and bore the tits off people with your vegan views

Bluedenimdoglover · Today 16:15

I have vegan friends, I have veggie friends, I eat meat on occasions. I've never had anyone criticise my food choices. If anyone "preached" their choice of diet, I would just distance myself from them. Can't be bothered with judgemental behaviour.

thestudio · Today 16:19

I've only once debated with a meat-eater in person and they started the discussion themselves.

I think meat-eaters construct these tropes/jokes because they know that their position is very hard to defend. It conflicts with their self-image as a decent, moral person, and makes them deeply uncomfortable. So they frame 'preachiness' as a worse crime than animal cruelty and helping to destroy the planet.

It's like being accused of murder and making a counter-accusation of 'your mum'. It's such an underpowered 'crime' in comparison with that of which they feel accused that it's (almost) laughable.

JohnnyFedora · Today 16:59

thestudio · Today 15:50

I'm not having a go - I'm genuinely interested in your answer.

We do know that eating animals is murdering animals, and that it's very bad for the environment, and I'm interested in how people un-see this when there is another option.

As an aside, being 'had a go at' is such a minute inconvenience in the context of what is being had a go about. I'm always embarrassed for those who use this rhetorical device.

Eating animals is not inherently bad for the environment.

It's the global over consumption that is driving the environmental issues.

I genuinely believe we should eat meat, just not every meal every day! You just have to look on the threads on here about vegetarian weddings and how people kick off that there's no meat for one meal in one day of their entire life. It seems that some people think they should have meat every single meal, breakfast, lunch and dinner. And they can't comprehend meals without meat being perfectly fine!

What I found an interesting watch is the TV series a few years ago called back home in time for tea or similar. And it was very striking that in the 20s, for example, they had one rasher of bacon to share between the whole family for a meal. And these days, people think you're being tight if you only put two in a sandwich.

JohnnyFedora · Today 17:03

C8H10N4O2 · Today 15:28

Vegans and the approx 3 billion people for whom soy is a core part of their standard diet.

Ok.... So they're still contributing to it?

Of they want to be preachy, they should be prepared to be preached back at, just because they think they're right, doesn't mean they are right and vice versa.

We're all allowed different opinions,and nobody should be telling anyone what they should and shouldn't be eating.

raininjune · Today 17:03

Timble · Today 14:07

Maybe meant to tag a different poster?

I did - sorry

raininjune · Today 17:05

pestowithwalnuts · Today 15:57

You've hit the nail on the head Bringing.
It's part of being vegan isn't it..thou must preach and bore the tits off people with your vegan views

Honestly, do either of you know anyone whose vegan? Believe it or not, we don't spend our days 'preaching'. FFS

SquirrelMadness · Today 17:29

JohnnyFedora · Today 17:03

Ok.... So they're still contributing to it?

Of they want to be preachy, they should be prepared to be preached back at, just because they think they're right, doesn't mean they are right and vice versa.

We're all allowed different opinions,and nobody should be telling anyone what they should and shouldn't be eating.

Plant-based food sources such as tofu generally have a much lower carbon footprint than meat. That doesn't mean the footprint is zero. I doubt it would be possible to live life without having any environmental impact at all.

I took this graph from a United Nations food and climate change report (note - I think soy would fall into the legumes c category):

The report is here if you want to check the source: https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/science/climate-issues/food

People who adopt a vegan diet due to environmental concerns are taking a sensible approach to reducing their carbon footprint, I don't see how that's hypercritical. And besides which, some vegans choose to be vegan for other reasons.

Food and Climate Change: Healthy diets for a healthier planet | United Nations

What we eat, and how that food is produced, affects our health but also the environment. Food needs to be grown and processed, transported, distributed, prepared, consumed, and sometimes disposed of. Each of these steps creates greenhouse gases that tr...

https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/science/climate-issues/food

SquirrelMadness · Today 17:30

Oh for some reason my image wasn't included!

AIBU to expect vegan guests to avoid preaching at shared meals?
SinuousTendrils · Today 17:31

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 08:59

And you're not evangelising about meat eating? Hypocrite.

And also utter bollocks @AmazingGreatAunt

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