To think Nigel Farage should be locked up?

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He was inciting violence with his “address to the nation” speech, calling for rage.

Meanwhile, he doesn’t care when women are actually murdered by the police

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

Surely enough is enough and they need to take action?

Pride rallies peaceful? Pride rallies are currently an absolute shit show arena of identity politics where lesbians are banned for having the audacity to assert their right to women only in their spaces and in their beds, gay men are attacked for asserting their right to men only in their spaces and in their beds, many pride rally organisers have been found to be paedophiles. And the police make it clear whose side they are on in this horrendous culture war which they absolutely shouldn't, but hey no one wants to get on the wrong side of the TRAs so I guess it's a lot easier to follow the zeitgeist of the day rather than actually uphold the law...

And I don't think you understand basic maths or per capita.

If you average all three black groups it comes out at 29.4. But I don't see the value in that figure because within that number there is a lot of divergence between say Black other, Black Caribbean and Black African.

Directing ire at Farage is a distraction tactic. What is disgusting is that the government coerces and threatens grieving families in cases like these that mustn’t speak their mind. That they must say the obligatory soundbites about preserving the woke status quo or they will be personally held responsible in case people react badly.

There is another thread where the OP asked whether grieving families are told what to say, and posters who are involved in such situations including a poster who unfortunately was a grieving relative confirmed that they are not told what to say.

Are you actually saying that the government coerced the father of Henry Nowak to make this very moving statement:

'We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred, or tension. We want his story to make our streets safer for everyone.'

Just because you wouldn't make a statement calling for calm and unity doesn't mean that even people who are bereaved in the most dreadful of circumstances wouldn't genuinely want to calm tensions and minimise the chance of violence from right-wing thugs.

This is a good article which explains that the Conservative Commissioner for Hampshire has been helping to support Henry's family. As well as the meetings with Keir and with Kemi:

Laura Kuenssberg: Nowak murder has lit a match under UK politics - BBC News

Farage is very clever. He makes speeches which he knows will rile up his base but have plausible deniability. It was the same.with Southport, 'I was only asking questions '.
Now that he's an actual MP he shouldn't be allowed to get away with this shit.

He can't be stopped as they'd just love him more. And as you say, he manages to stay the right side of the law. They need to throw the book at the rioters and show them where listening to Farage gets them.

Agree. He's also broken electoral law several times. Threatening voters. Classy.

He’s trying to navigate a line between appearing reasonable and appealing to more extreme voters who may be attracted by Restore. It’ll be interesting to see how, or if, his handling of this affects his support. Particularly if KB continues to present a much more reasoned response.

French bars and restaurants unlikely to employ a Brit over a French person anyway. EU or no EU. Even if the British person’s French was good enough.

You are being completely unreasonable. Nigel Farage is right. The police handcuffed a dying man because he was white. Absolutely two tier policing

They did that because they failed to check his condition and were being deliberately distracted by multiple members of the killer’s family.

Not “because he was white”.

@yellowspanner do you have proof that is the reason they handcuffed him. Hampshire police have been found wanting in their restraint training. Maybe we should wait for the review into the arrest

Do we know why other members of the Digwa family did not face any charges. Was it not to distract from the main murder charge?

The fact he was white, the alleged victim was an Indian Sikh, and the latter and his family were shouting and screaming about racism had everything to do with it. Police are on heightened alert to react to any alleged race related incident as it's designated as a 'hate crime'. A dying, young white man simply doesn't cut it in their eyes.

Edited for spelling.

They are facing charges. The mother has been in jail for the last 7 months.

The murderer’s mum, dad and brother are all before the courts

The man who murdered Henry Nowak and lied that he was the victim of a racist attack is facing new weapons charges – along with his dad and brother.

Vickrum Digwa, who was jailed for life on Monday, faces six counts of possessing an offensive weapon in a private place.

The 23-year-old's dad, Moga Singh, 52, and brother, Gurpreet Digwa, 27, are accused of the same charges, while Gurpreet Digwa faces four additional counts. The charges include possessing an axe, air rifle and knife.

Do you believe the police would have acted differently if Henry had been a black man accused of racism by an Indian Sikh? Because they'd be on the same high alert to racially motivated hate crime.

Farage is a symptom of the problems the UK has, not a cure. He will exploit situations like the policing in Hampshire. But the fact is that the policing in Hampshire has a lot of problems which he hasn’t been responsible for, and is divisive.

I am utterly unimpressed by the Government who seem to think their guidelines will be carefully thought about and applied by the police in the same situation as when they were made, by a careful consensus committee. That is ridiculous. Someone like Farage will exploit that all day.

If we want a better society than the one Farage talks about then we need our mainstream politicians not to permit messes like this and think carefully about the possible problems. Otherwise more riots are coming.

If one was accusing the other, of course. Racism's Police bingo. It's a hate crime so gets special priority.

So if Digwa had accused a black man of a racist attack on him, and the black man told the police he had been stabbed, you think they would have ignored the black man because they'd have been too blinded by the alleged hate crime against Digwa?

I do, yes.

So do I. Which is why I think we are going down the wrong track when we say Henry was ignored because he was white.
What we really mean is that Henry was ignored because the police guidance leads them to bias in favour of the alleged victim when the matter concerns race.
Which is not at all the same thing as the 'racism against white people' rhetoric that's stirring up so much division and hatred.

Henry was ignored because the police guidance leads them to bias in favour of the alleged victim when the matter concerns race.

Do we know that the bias isn't just in favour of the alleged victim, regardless of the nature of the crime? If officers get to the scene of an alleged assault, how do we know they don't always give more credence to what the alleged victim tells them?

Police guidelines and training currently instructs to not treat people the same.