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AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?

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HopelessPessimist · Yesterday 19:02

Southampton protest against police, huge crowd, Tommy Robinson whipping everyone into a frenzy and saying "this IS about race"

Other speakers declaring that England is a Christian country. The Lords Prayer chanted by every speaker. The leader of UKIP saying he will deport all migrants and make government Christian. The leaders of the protest saying they are being pushed by the police cordon, while the camera angle shows the police haven't moved. The leaders of the protest mocking the female police officer who are taking over a shift from another police officer in the cordon "They're replacing all the men with women!"

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war. Maybe human beings just aren't supposed to go decades without a fight.

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pinkstripeycat · Yesterday 21:53

CheeseyOnionPie · Yesterday 19:11

Has anyone actually said that’s what happened?

My DH is retired police (was in up til end 2025). He was an inspector. This IS how they are forced to behave. DH was glad to finish after 25yrs. He said it was SO woke they couldn’t do their jobs properly and ethnic minorities WERE given leniency by the courts. Whites ARE discriminated against.

MustTryHarderAndHarder · Yesterday 21:53

Thirteenblackcats · Yesterday 19:57

Stop talking nonsense.

do you think 50% of people getting arrested say they have been stabbed

you are ridiculous.

I remember a few years ago when a black man rang up a radio station and said that he tried to help the police when they were chasing a suspect and ended up being arrested because they thought he was lying and I can't blame the police for that any more than I can blame them for not believing someone who they thought was a criminal.

How are the police supposed to know what to believe? How would you know who was telling the truth?

fairydustt · Yesterday 21:53

Let’s all collectively agree to stop responding to ‘you alright’ they’re on the wind up.

MsJinks · Yesterday 21:53

Sorry for my repeated posts @MyLimeGuide- not making a point - my phone went weird!

Jellox · Yesterday 21:54

MyLimeGuide · Yesterday 21:49

Why? Why should this just be 'let go'?

What systemic change are these protestors asking for?

This is one of the first cases of this ever happening and so why the need for protesting?

What exact changes to the police force are they requesting?

It all police they are protesting about or just the white ones?

SleeplessInWherever · Yesterday 21:54

Dollymylove · Yesterday 21:52

You dont have to be a devout Christian to want this shit show that is Britain to be sorted out

But you really should be a Christian if you’re going to march through London carrying a cross.

SpaceRaccoon · Yesterday 21:54

TriesNotToBeCynical · Yesterday 21:52

It is how the Commons works; the speaker introduces the government statement.

What, no politician every says anything ever, unless directed to by the Speaker? Rubbish.

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 21:54

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 21:52

Why? Are you Polish? Tommy Robinson, UKIP, Farage, Reform and his lot whipped up the frenzy against Polish immigrants in 2015 resulting in murders and attacks then.

But now in 2026, they’re pretending a racially motivated murder of a Polish student could happen to any young white British lad when they’re the ones that started the racism against other Europeans, not the British Sikhs ffs.

What a load of fucking gaslighting shit! Talk about dismissing someone’s genuine concerns for their own kid’s safety!

youalright · Yesterday 21:54

SpaceRaccoon · Yesterday 21:52

I think there's people deliberately lying about what is on the video now.

Ive tried to post the video on here but it says its to big to post. But anyone saying they didn't lift his top to check his back for stab wounds as the police officer said I don't think you have mate is lying

footbeds · Yesterday 21:54

Why are so many police officers incompetent?

MyLimeGuide · Yesterday 21:54

Quokkas · Yesterday 21:50

The PM did make a statement though. He made one. Which he should have. Is there anything else he should do?

Put a stop to two tier policing maybe? Ban woke bullshit??

hourglass2 · Yesterday 21:54

EasternStandard · Yesterday 21:52

Why? It’s a horrible way for an 18 year old to be treated as he died.

Handcuffed and arrested for a crime he didn’t do. Scared and surrounded by people not helping him, including the perpetrator of his fatal stabbing. Surely you can see that?

I know. it's so so awful, poor lad...

Whysnothingsimple · Yesterday 21:54

bafta16 · Yesterday 21:38

Many white British people have been trained to think that being white British is some kind of thing to be ashamed of, that our history is evil, that they have some kind of racist default unless they cede to every belief and demand of non-white groups

Who are these people? Who is training them? You do realise you are mixed race, we all are.

Oh for heavens sake! My mixed force would have to go back until at least the l 16th century and then it’s very unlikely until maybe be you go back a thousand years. But that’s not relevant. What we are talking about here is people who differentiate themselves from the majority due to their ethnicity. I’m white British , because that’s what my ethnicity is, the fact I might find a tiny bit of Norse in me if you did some dna analysis is irrelevant to my existence. “We are all mixed race” is exactly the sort of 6th former, stick it to the parents reasoning everyone is bored of. It has no bearing on the actual debate, except telling us the person ‘s debating skills reached their peak in junior school.

Who is guiding the anti white rhetoric? well people who want to change this country to suit their own needs, people who want to go unchallenged in fulfilling their own agenda so people who don’t value white British culture

trueredstart · Yesterday 21:54

Livelovebehappy · Yesterday 21:51

Which you know has hugely reduced over the last decade, due to policy change in the stop and search process of people of colour. Resulting in knife crime increasing in London on the back of it. Over 50% of knife crime is committed by people of colour in London, which suggests that of course focus should be on these figures and how to reduce them. Whether it’s by more in-school education, or more police presence in these communities. It’s not good enough for people to say ‘nothing to see here’, when there clearly is plenty to see.

Remember that time that a Live Facial Recognition Camera was no longer used in Chelmsford because it correctly identified a disproportionate number of black people?

From The Guardian:
Essex commissioned University of Cambridge academics to conduct a study, which involved 188 actors walking past cameras being actively deployed from marked police vans in Chelmsford. The results were published last week and showed about half of the people on a watchlist were correctly identified and incorrect identifications were extremely rare, but the system was more likely to correctly identify men than women and it was “statistically significantly more likely to correctly identify black participants than participants from other ethnic groups”.

MyLimeGuide · Yesterday 21:55

footbeds · Yesterday 21:54

Why are so many police officers incompetent?

I know its so bloody scary isn't it? Incompetent or corrupt.

Wellywanda3 · Yesterday 21:55

Jellox · Yesterday 21:54

What systemic change are these protestors asking for?

This is one of the first cases of this ever happening and so why the need for protesting?

What exact changes to the police force are they requesting?

It all police they are protesting about or just the white ones?

Are you blind?

HopelessPessimist · Yesterday 21:55

And while I understand the anger, I think about how Mumsnet righteously protested the sentences for the three young rapists who attacked thise two young girls, and got it in the media, and forced the PM to comment and for the sentenced to be referred. No bottles thrown, no streets terrorised, just angry women saying we'd had enough.

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Jellox · Yesterday 21:55

pinkstripeycat · Yesterday 21:53

My DH is retired police (was in up til end 2025). He was an inspector. This IS how they are forced to behave. DH was glad to finish after 25yrs. He said it was SO woke they couldn’t do their jobs properly and ethnic minorities WERE given leniency by the courts. Whites ARE discriminated against.

Yet statistics tell a very different story.

I wonder who we should believe - a random, anonymous user on MN or factual statistical data.

Hmm 🤔

youalright · Yesterday 21:55

Jellox · Yesterday 21:54

What systemic change are these protestors asking for?

This is one of the first cases of this ever happening and so why the need for protesting?

What exact changes to the police force are they requesting?

It all police they are protesting about or just the white ones?

They don't care which police officer it is their just to busy throwing glass bottles at all of them

TriesNotToBeCynical · Yesterday 21:56

SpaceRaccoon · Yesterday 21:54

What, no politician every says anything ever, unless directed to by the Speaker? Rubbish.

No it's not - he chairs the session! And he never asks them to make a statement unless they've told him they want to.

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 21:56

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 21:54

What a load of fucking gaslighting shit! Talk about dismissing someone’s genuine concerns for their own kid’s safety!

Let them answer the question. The poor Polish lad was targeted as a Polish immigrant on a student visa by a British attacker.

thesecretteacher · Yesterday 21:56

That poor boy. He was just 18 years old and hadn't done anything wrong. If I was living nearer Southampton I’d be out protesting too.

footbeds · Yesterday 21:56

How are the police supposed to know what to believe? How would you know who was telling the truth?

You assess the situation and talk to the people involved….

SpaceRaccoon · Yesterday 21:56

What systemic change are these protestors asking for?

I don't know what the Southampton protesters are asking for, but I'd say that the police need to be retrained to be colourblind, and not be scared of "community" sensitivities, and not have a fear of racism accusations hanging over them.

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 21:56

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 21:56

Let them answer the question. The poor Polish lad was targeted as a Polish immigrant on a student visa by a British attacker.

And? You’re just completely dismissing what the poster is saying! Just stop with the gaslighting shit already!

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