If you are Reform are you ok with this repulsive man potentially becoming an MP and representing women in parliament?

[Johnogroats]

Robert Kenyon, the “cheeky local chappie” who is standing for Reform in Makerfield is on record as making some shockingly sexist comments and statements. Reform are standing by him.

Can I ask the women on here who are Reform voters if they are ok with the him remaining a candidate given what I cite below. Btw I am absolutely not, but I’m not and never will be a Reform voter for a variety of reasons.

1. Retweeting a post about performing a (graphic description) of a sexual act on Carol Voderman.
2. He has attacked women as being promiscuous and accused them of taking any decision to have an abortion lightly. He wrote, “reproductive rights, women's rights, they can dress it up all they want.
3. They're deciding to kill a baby inside the womb. What they mean is they want to shag anyone they want. And if they get caught, they get a second chance and treat it as a secondary, last form of contraception.”

Either you think this is ok (don’t understand how anyone let alone a woman could be ok with it) or presumably you’ll be contacting Tice and Farage etc to drop him.

Interested in your thoughts.

It is very much a multi faith room

It clearly isn't!

WheresMyHatGone
I have no idea why it's called 'St Mary's Church'. Possibly it's been owned by St Mary's Church and it's easier to call it that than 'the building that's not really the church but is owned by it but used by the school'.

The new St Mary's church was dedicated on 4th August 1978 by the Rt. Rev Michael Henshall, the Bishop of Warrington.

https://www.wiganlocalhistory.org/resources/memories-of-st-mary-ince-1887-2021

FGS. It was a school. Then a church took it over. Then the devout masses stopped attending. Then it fell into disused. Then the church agreed to a change of use. Then it didn't sell . Then a community group offered to buy it. So they did.

It was a school. Then a church took it over.

Presumably dedication is the same or similar to consecration. Also, some stained glass windows from the original church were relocated to the new church.

And?

None of this affects the fact that Kenyon is a deeply misogynist man.

I refer to posters on here and elsewhere claiming it was not a proper church.

By replying to me? How peculiar.

The website clearly states that the venue is open to people 'from all backgrounds'.
The room is a place set aside to pray.
As Muslims tend to have a greater requirement for a place to pray, than, say, Christians, I imagine they will be the people who most frequently use it.
However I'd be very surprised if Christians or those of others faiths wishing to pray while visiting the foodbank are being refused access to the prayer room.
I'm sure we'd have heard if that were the case.

I live in the bloody town, I should know!
Do you??
You seem such an expert on somewhere you probably couldn’t even point out if you were given a map.

Of course it is reasonablefor you to have brought your boys up that way, i wish more women did. But given that it's apparently a 2 horse race, taking votes away from Kenyon benefits Burnham.

As abhorrent as Kenyon is, he can do limited damage to the country. Burnham on the other hand could, if gets voted in as party leader, do tremendous damage to this country as a whole.

If large numbers of people like Kenyon win at the next election, the harm done to the country will be huge, more than we can even anticipate. Many councils are already experiencing chaos.

No that is rather naive it won't happen. Reform leaders have given him their full backing.

How? He had been a great constituency MP and Mayor. He is a good man with good ideas.

Well that'd be my point- it is offensive on so many levels. The idea that lower income families are to be gifted people who are making a virtue of ignorant behaviour- ( and remember it's relative- the millionaires making themselves statements dont have to worry) and we should be thankful and also be thankful when millionaires are ignorant
It's breathtakingly offensive.

They're terrified that with Burnham at the helm Labour will be re elected.

Which Richard Tice refused to condemn

And Farage has gone missing. Most uncharacteristic.

He will drive the country into even greater debt (which has already increased massively during this parliament) and more and more of taxpayers hard earned money will be used for interest on the debt rather than on essential services.
Confidence in labour in the public sector has dropped massively, with only 18% of teachers surveyed saying they would vote for labour again.

His views towards women's only spaces are also very worrying.

Not that I'm any expert on anti semetism. But the leader of Reform hissing at Jewish pupils and telling them Hitler was right' and then also claiming it was childish banter- or whatever- isn't a great sign.

This puzzles me. IMHO Kenyon’s election will accelerate the posssibility of a Reform government, which is an appalling prospect. And I am unclear what damage you think Burnham as PM will do.

Not sure where you got that 18% from but you are rather missing out that ( in the survey I saw) thus is because the planned Green vote had risen. Reform remained at a lowly 2 ish per cent and Tory vote had declined.

Just found latest survey which had 24% Labour, 24 % Green, LDs on 13, Tories on 5 and Reform on 2.

He won't accelerate the possibility of a Reform government, that could not happen until the next general election. If anything it would do the opposite - a couple of years of him as an MP, and then people would realise how useless he is when he gets nothing done, and hopefully not vote him in when it actually matters.

Against the very potential reality of Burnham as a potential PM, getting in by ousting an elected MP in that area which all feels a bit underhand before the leadership race has even begun, and before it has even been confirmed. To end up with a PM who wasn't even an MP at the last general election feels really wrong to me. That one constituency can decide the leadership of the whole country feels undemocratic, despite it being legally possible. And I get that at a GE people officially vote for their MP, but in reality most are voting for the party with the leader who they feel will do the best job.

Absolute rubbish.