If you are Reform are you ok with this repulsive man potentially becoming an MP and representing women in parliament?

[Johnogroats]

Robert Kenyon, the “cheeky local chappie” who is standing for Reform in Makerfield is on record as making some shockingly sexist comments and statements. Reform are standing by him.

Can I ask the women on here who are Reform voters if they are ok with the him remaining a candidate given what I cite below. Btw I am absolutely not, but I’m not and never will be a Reform voter for a variety of reasons.

1. Retweeting a post about performing a (graphic description) of a sexual act on Carol Voderman.
2. He has attacked women as being promiscuous and accused them of taking any decision to have an abortion lightly. He wrote, “reproductive rights, women's rights, they can dress it up all they want.
3. They're deciding to kill a baby inside the womb. What they mean is they want to shag anyone they want. And if they get caught, they get a second chance and treat it as a secondary, last form of contraception.”

Either you think this is ok (don’t understand how anyone let alone a woman could be ok with it) or presumably you’ll be contacting Tice and Farage etc to drop him.

Interested in your thoughts.

I don't think it usually is 'taken lightly'. I think for the vast majority who have one, a surgical abortion is an incredibly difficult decision, and a traumatic process.

There could reasonably be discussions around looking at the cut off threshold, given that babies are surviving at a much younger gestational age. But making them illegal should never ever be an option.

I’ve just seen an Open Letter from Carol Vorderman. Hope you can read the photo (might need a microscope) but will post here. I also saw clips of the BBCQT from last night. Must watch the whole thing.

I do like Beth Rigby. Spot on.

Kenyon probably wishes there were laws about chaining her to the sink so he had no questions,

I hope someone is enterprising enough to post a copy of that through every door in Makerfield.

He is a sexist pig! Even Restore Britain are doing better. QT excruciating viewing

Do you have evidence to support the view that abortion is taken lightly?

Is there a party that is blessedly lacking a vile MP?

Possibly not. But that is no reason to knowingly vote another one in.

I doubt it. However this is a specific situation where two would be MPs are being pitted against each other. On the one hand, the demonstrably vile Kenyon. On the other, Andy Burnham, who regardless of your views on his political leanings, you would struggle to describe as vile.

In a standard GE, I would absolutely agree with you, and I also agree Kenyon is despicable. However, this is far from standard situation. The only reason Burnham seems to be standing is to take down Starmer and become PM. There was no 'spare' space for an MP, and then, as an oh so magical coincidence, the labour MP for Makerfield stepped down just when confidence in Starmer has dipped. Or was he bullied into doing it, or bribed? Who knows. But the timing feels very strange.

Burnham hasn't even resigned as mayor of Manchester (his elected role) as far as I'm aware, he is very much keeping his options open.

It all just feels very macheavelian to me

Burnham does not need to resign as Mayor until he is voted in.

Would you vote for Kenyon just to spite Burnham?

No one is pretending it was a coincidence that Simons stepped aside to give Burnham a chance to become an MP. Simons was clear this is what was happening.
No one is pretending that this isn't so Burnham will be in a position to offer himself as an alternative to Keir Starmer.
The timing isn't strange, it's exactly right. Labour need a more popular PM. Andy Burnham is the most popular politician in the UK. Its the obvious time for him to step up.
All of the actions taken so far have been legal and above board, and necessary if Burnham is to replace Starmer, which many in the Labour Party and the wider electorate would welcome.
If the people of Makerfield elect Burnham, I don't see this as being shortchanged. Even if he doesn't make PM, he has far more experience and clout than Kenyon, so is a better bet for getting local issues some attention.
And if he does make PM, they will be represented by the most powerful man in the UK, which isn't to be sniffed at.

I thought that to be Machiavellian you need to not tell anyone what you’re doing? Everyone knows-and has known for ages what’s going on!

Most popular doesn't mean the best, after all, on the yougov poll he only came a couple percent higher than Farage. And Farage came a couple percent higher than Badenoch, I think we can all agree she would be better than him as PM.

Josh Simmons stepped aside? Or was pushed/bribed? A labour MP I know suggests the latter is the true story.

No, I agree popular doesn't mean best. However one of the most frequently cited reasons for people moving away from Labour is dislike of Keir Starmer. So a high public approval rating is important. And there's none higher than Burnhams.
I don't think its reasonable to suggest there has been corruption in the process without any evidence. I mean, all our politicians could be taking bribes, but we tend not to hold the possibility alone against them.

Oh really... who is that?

Because that to me suggests you know very little of the background of Simons.

I’d like Simons to become GM Mayor. I think he would do a great job.