I hate being fat :(

[Scarlettjune]

I'm 5 foot 3 and 14 stone 6 pounds. I hate being fat. Why can I achieve so much else in my life but I can't achieve losing weight.
I have tried so many times.

I went on mounjaro last year and it just made me really sick. I didnt lose any weight on it. I am off it now.

Both me and my brother had very bad childhoods and we are both overweight. Obviously we are eating to comfort ourselves. I'm not sure how to break the pattern. Was anyone on here able to break out of the pattern of emotional eating?

Yep. I’ve lost 3 stone and I still binge/overeat now and again. I did so earlier this week, my Sainsbury’s delivery arrived and after putting my food away I promptly ate these 3 jumbo cookies that were about 400 calories each, and then a box of crackers (I stopped counting the calories at that point 😆) - but I just got back on track the next day.

Oh bless you - I can relate hard to that.
Childhood leaves such a mark on stuff like this. A big one for me is “wasting” food. We always had to clear our plates whether we were full or not and I have such an issue with scraping food in the bin now. Logic defeats me often - I’m full, I don’t want it, I don’t need it, yet I feel I have to eat it rather than putting it in the bin! I tell myself I’m not the bin but that food waste thing is still in my head.
When you want to eat crisps, which is no bad thing in itself, you’re connecting it to that safe feeling where your home was calm. What else can you use to take comfort from though so it’s not crisps every time? If you can introduce just one thing, just some of the time….
Dammit though relationships with food are complex.

I love this! Thankyou for sharing.

That’s not actually true, there’s a U.K. nurse who died of pancreatitis + organ failure + septic shock and the use of “prescribed tirzepatide" was recorded as a contributing factor. Pancreatitis is a known side effect of the jabs.

There was a GP who commented on MN that 3 patients at her practice had serious side effects: one was hospitalised with pancreatitis; one had NAION and went blind in one eye; I don’t recall what happened to the third.

Any medication has side effects and some are worse than others.

Unfortunately for you, the regulatory authorities disagree with your assessment and do class that as rare.

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I'm from the "clear your plate, don't you know there are starving kids in Africa" generation too! So was my DP, who also struggles with his weight. We both swore that we'd never do that with our DD and never have, and watching the way she eats has really helped me get a handle on my portions. She simply stops when she's full. No drama, just stops. Sometimes she'll eat a pizza the size of a dustbin lid, the next day tiny portions.

As for crisps, I allow myself to have them, because if I don't I just crave them anyway and then I'll cave and binge on loads of packets. Better to have one packet in moderation than try to stop completely.

It doesn't matter what the stats are as far as OP is concerned – she has said she doesn't want to try them again. I understand why posters want to correct the facts as far as WLI go, but she's made her decision.

I have had a shed load of therapy. My last person was very very professional , caring, fantastic clear boundaries.
BACP registered and in supervision.

Absolutely, it’s a pointless discussion, she tried, they didn’t work, as they do for a percentage of people. She was sadly in the two percent who got severe nausea so had to stop, So she needs to find another solution.

That’s exactly why I deleted my comment. I started typing then thought actually, it doesn’t matter how many in 100, in 33 or whatever, if shes not going down that route, it’s unnecessary to point out those numbers.

OP, you’ve had great advice on this thread. I hope you are able to work on those links you’ve already made, and to get behind the emotional reasons of why the weight gain has happened. Best of luck. x

Devils advocate, what do you like about being fat? Is there something about the lifestyle you enjoy? Often when we struggle to change a habit it is because it is benefiting us, even if we also hate it. For example, I was addicted to sugar and really struggled to cut it out enough to lose weight and get healthier, but then realised I liked that it gave me a little dopamine hit when I had it, so now I actively try to get that little boost elsewhere. I’m now losing weight. Really challenge yourself to understand why you aren’t changing your habits. Eg is it a defence mechanism? Does it reinforce the negative things you think about yourself so you keep it to keep that sense of self? It’s an exercise to do non judgementally , just be really honest with yourself. You can lose weight if you really want to.

I now get WW membership for free now I've reached goal - not sure why you say why they keep taking your money when I'm not paying anything. Now I've lost six stone, the difficult bit starts - ie not putting it back on. Which, let's face it, most people do - I think the stats are something along the lines of 90% - 95% put it back on within 3 - 5 years.

There are no 'good' or 'bad' foods on WE - I think back in the day Slimming World had 'syns' or something, reinforcing that type of good food vs bad food, unhelpful in my view.

I'm not particularly evangelical about WW. It worked for me and my cardiologist is delighted with my weight loss - perhaps more so than me 🤣 .

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If you’re not evangelical why didn’t you tell the whole story, which is if you gain 2lbs or 2kg, depending on your area, they start charging you again.

Keto helped me break my addiction to sugar and snacking.

New You plan helped me lose tons of weight but reintroduced sugar craves which I have to plan around or I'll binge.

I think it's always a struggle, if it started out that way, but you can overcome it with a lot of determination and practice.

I can't speak to online forum threads. However, data indicates around 40% of users of tirzepatide (Mounjaro) experience nausea. That, along with gastrointestinal upset, are the most common side effects.

She is talking about nausea so severe she had to stop. That’s 2 percent, mild nausea that you experience once or twice for a few hours is in your stats.

I told the 'whole story' because OP was asking for advice about losing weight and overeating/gaining weight due to emotional trauma (same as me). Also that we were literally the same weight. And so she might find my experience helpful. Put please feel free to piss over an (assisted) six stone weight loss.

Eli Lilly report gallstones as a 'common' side effect when using Mounjaro - though the (medical) jury seems to be out as to whether this is a side effect of the medication or just weight loss

OP, what you need for the comfort eating is CBT. That is how you can learn to change behaviour, especially trauma-related behaviour.

Agree - just not sure how people self define 'severe' nausea ...

Mounjaro gave me atrial fibrilation, which has been lifechanging for me. I'm now on three kinds of medication, and awaiting my second heart procedure.
I'm losing weight, using calorie counting and light exercise, using the NOOM app (which is free to use for the basic plan).
WLI really aren't the magic pill people think they are.

Not just nausea.i also lost control of my bowels on mounjaro. No way could I continue

Your doctors confirmed it was directly caused by the med and not your weight, electroytle Imbalance etc?

That’s incredibly rare, I think something like 2 people ever found in over 50 million.

Yikes. My friend developed AF post-Covid and I've seen how debilitating it is. She's been paddled twice to try to get her heart into a regular rhythm but neither worked and now she needs an ablation.