The Left have a become a snivelling self-righteous mob, busy bodying around, trying to shame others

[Northermcharn]

I read this quote and it encapsulates exactly how I feel

'I never thought I'd see the day when the Right became the cool ones giving the finger to the establishment, and the Left became the snivelling self-righteous ones going around shaming everybody'

AIBU to think this is what many people think these days? We didn't leave the left, the left left us.

*the quote is from John Lydon aka Johnny Rotten. He's deliberately provocative in lots of ways, but he meant this one. I fully expect some people to come on the thread to tell us all how he's a horror and said he likes Donald Trump. That would be them missing the point.. but.. Let Them..

'wrong think'
'thought crime'
etc ; )

No there is nothing about the 'UK' that I like. The horrific things the people of this country have done to folks around the world keeps me up at night more than I'd like. I know it might sound silly or extreme to some, but I am a deeply empathic person and I cannot stomach injustice of any sort. I will always be on the side of the people who are unable to defend themselves.

'I will always be on the side of the people who are unable to defend themselves.'

Ahh a very British trait - Brits always support the underdog..

I'm sorry? Are you referring to marganilsed people as 'dogs'? Is this actually serious?

You sound devoid of any critical thinking. Nothing you've posted is particularly impressive, I'm afraid. The bar is high and you fail to meet it. Simple.

Jesus Christ. 'Underdog' is a figure of speech. Give your head a wobble.

You claim to be on the left but you absolutely don't represent me.

Except while working class people, who you've decided 'can be safely ignored' and who you clearly don't think deserve your empathy.

Again, I find your posts on this thread personally offensive.

I've reported instantlybella. Nasty stuff.

Well I've literally never heard that expression before. The context behind it seemed incredibly suspect to me. That's why I called it out.

It’s a figure of speech 🙄

Bella has achieved the impossible - brought us all together for a brief moment in time, anyway 😂

Why did you report me?

Talk about self gratification! Another narc disguised as a do gooder.

🤣

We aren't one homogeneous group of exactly the same people. What 'horrific ' things have 'we' done to people around the world? Is this more of your white colonial historical stuff? You do realise surely that the people who colonised countries from Britain hundreds of years ago are dead. I and others are not responsible for what happened before we were even born. Are you not aware of the history of other countries 🤔

You hate the UK. Why don't you find somewhere nicer to live? Are you aware that people who suffer injustice may also live in countries that have caused injustice to others. No country is pure and has never done anything wrong in its history!

@InstantlyBella ’Care for Calais’

So you help people come to this country that you so despise?
Sounds like the UK isn’t all that bad if you are helping people escape the horrors of France?

I'm sure you liked the look of those first two sentences as you typed them. Frame me as a dinosaur who isn't as astute as you. However they make no sense at all in response to anything I actually said.
Of course society is changing. And as part of that traditional social classifications have become blurred. Which is why statements that Labour aren't listening to the Working Class don't stand scrutiny, and allow you to invent your own definition to ensure it includes those who agree with you and excludes those who don't.
I'll say it again. If you personally don't like Labour then have the courage of your own convictions. No need to hide behind 'the working class'.

Touché.

@Northermcharn can you please explain why you reported me? I just want to know what you think I did to deserve having any of my posts removed. I will even leave your thread when you give me an answer. My head is spinning right now, so please just help me understand.

Indeed.

Isn't it rather cruel @InstantlyBella to help people come to the UK, which is by your own words a horrible place to live. Maybe, if you were kinder, you'd help them to go somewhere nicer. 🤔

If you consider everything in British history a personal affront to your empathy with the world's downtrodden, without consideration for milestones like Magna Carta, habeus corpus, the English (and Scottish) common and civil legal codes, some decent architecture, lots of science and technology that have helped lift most labour out of grinding agricultural poverty and regular famine, to say nothing of magnificent music, great literature and other canons of art... in short civilisation... all I can offer is my deep sympathy @InstantlyBella .

I hope you are very young and can access a few more years in education.

I rather hope MNHQ don't delete Bella. Leave her posts to stand as evidence of folly and uncritical thought.

True, I do usually think that way. I think the incoherence of the underdog response made me think not a genuine poster.

I’ve my suspicions too

as a work of satire, I think it fails on multiple levels

I don’t think you’ve answered my question, which was whether it would call into question our democratic rights. I think it would. Do you not agree?

Probably second year in uni studying Political Science