To think the main Mumsnet demographic are out of touch politically

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Reform.are smashing the polls yet any Reform voter is despised and ridiculed on here.

No, not just you.

AI is definitely going to be changing how many people work, but the technology isn't there yet in terms of providing appropriate care for our elderly. It won't pay for our pensions either.

Well it will have to as income tax will drop markedly. Politicians better start looking at how to extract tax from AI and tech not workers.

We don’t.

We are going to have to take an unorthodox approach and ultimately leave the fire to burn out. All other ‘solutions’ are a Ponzi scheme.

Agree, the mumsnetters appear to be hard left wing.

Right. Whatever 😂

I'm sorry, is this question for real?

You don't know that we are importing more people than make up for a fall in the birth rate?

Or that until the last couple of years, people who have already been born are living longer and longer?

It’s no wonder they wanted to cancel the local elections!

Why do you find that correct statement funny?

Elderly care is very close.

The Japanese have been working on this already for a long time because of their own aging population crisis.

They are currently training humanoid AI driven robots in all aspects of elderly care, from companionship to personal care.

UK's population density looks about 16% higher than Germany's (2023).

Interesting graph here showing divergence since early 2000s;

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.POP.DNST?locations=GB-DE

I'm well aware of what's happening in Japan, but the technology isn't good enough to replace human care just yet. It will develop, of course. But many elderly Japanese people have also expressed concern about technology replacing human care.

What does that even mean?

Christ, I hope I die before that happens here.

It's not you, it's them. LOL

Logic and Farage et al aren't closely aligned.

That's pretty much what our elderly Japanese friend said.

Elderly care doesn’t mean keeping the Ponzi scheme going. It just means more people will have to switch to doing it over other jobs. As there will be fewer of those.

Voting for something other than Reform doesn’t make someone “out of touch” - it’s just a personal political choice. Women also tend to lean more liberal and sympathetic towards underdog groups, so Mumsnet probably isn’t the demographic where you’d expect Reform to dominate anyway.
From what I’ve seen, a lot of Reform support comes from working-class voters who feel most directly affected by the issues the party focuses on, so the demographics on Mumsnet may simply not reflect that perspective as strongly.

I read the whole of this thread and I still have no clue what exactly Reform voters are voting for - other than "Stopping Immigration" - which is irrelevant in local elections as local government has no say in this. They are also, apparently, voting for Reform because other people are calling them thick and because they want "British values" back.

I'm sorry if I find it all a bit laughable.

Edited: Sadly, I do think a lot of people in this country have a few marbles missing. They have voted for Brexit, so there is plenty of evidence to support this.

So given we need immigration, one suggestion is that maybe Reform voters would implement a system more like the Swiss? I looked up the stats for Switzerland...

Their foreign population is 65–75% European especially from Portugal, Italy, Germany, France and Spain. Also significant numbers from UK, Austria and Poland with some from Kosovo, Serbia, North Macedonia. (Switzerland has free movement agreement with the EU.)

Non-European migrants make up the remaining 25-35% of the foreign population including Turkey, Eritrea (notable refugee group), India, China and the United States. These are workers in finance, pharma and tech plus asylum seekers and students.

The irony though. Swiss immigration is clearly more EU based, if that would be more palatable to Reform voters, then to reconfigure the system, Reform would replace non-EU immigration with EU, thereby reversing their own Brexit shift .

You know you can just look this stuff up yourself, yeah?

I didn’t vote Reform. But their overall aim to spend less money on individuals and more on programs that benefit the district as a whole would appeal to me.

It means, if the cost of propping the issue up in the short term is a long term population Ponzi scheme which cripples our children and future generations, we must fall on our sword and not do it, however the chips may land.

So just let a generation of elderly people rot?

What programmes are those?